Papal candidates - Short List?

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My mind still can’t fully process the fact that the Cardinals are gathered at the Vatican to choose a new pontif , yet a mere " stones throw " away Pope Emeritis Benedict looms in quiet seclusion , still casting a long shadow…but completely silent.

It is so surreal , yet it is happening right before our eyes. To be honest , I am still in a state of near disbelief,
 
Joe_5859 said:
Okay, I thought I’d bump this post and update the list with the articles that have come out in the last few days.

John Allen has been doing a series on the “Papabile of the Day.” I have found it enjoyable just to learn a bit more about some of our cardinals. It makes me feel better knowing there are such good prelates out there. 🙂

Anyway, here is who he has profiled so far. Keep in mind that this is the National Catholic Reporter, so try to avoid looking at the comments section if you have forgotten your blood pressure medication. 😛

  1. Though not part of the series proper, Allen did write a similar type of article on [Cardinal Sean O’Malley (Buzz grows in Rome for Boston's O'Malley | National Catholic Reporter).

    Also, here are some of John Allen’s interviews with various (mostly American) cardinals leading up towards the conclave:
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Brendan_64 said:
Who knows? With the position our Church is in a new approach might be just what is needed. A ‘young’ man might do a lot to help shed the image of collusion and cover-up that our Church is dogged with right now. Tagle is untainted by such scandal and could be seen as the perfect man to ‘sweep us clean’. Young, dynamic and with bags of energy. That in itself would be a positive.

I would just love to see the white smoke go up, and then Cardinal Tagle stepping out onto the balcony as Pope.
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Yes, I like this guy.

I do think that he is a bit young though.
 
ringil said:
Yes, I like this guy.

I do think that he is a bit young though.
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I like him too and his youth, I believe, is in his favour. Plus he has been very quick to follow up reports of sexual abuse IIRC.
 
This Cardinal’s courage is somewhat remarkable
The reference is to April 2003, when Filoni was serving as the papal ambassador in Iraq. At a time when other diplomats fled for safety, as well as U.N. officials and journalists, Filoni refused to leave, saying he couldn’t abandon the local Catholic community and other suffering Iraqis.

“If a pastor flees in moments of difficulty,” he said later, “the sheep are lost.”
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Filoni remained in the country for the aftermath of the war, as Christians found themselves primary targets amid rising chaos. He refused to adopt special security measures, wanting to face the same risks as locals who didn’t have access to guards and armored vehicles. He said his aim was to be seen “as an Iraqi, by the Iraqis.”

That choice almost cost him dearly in February 2006, when a car bomb went off outside the nunciature, demolishing a garden wall and smashing window panes, but luckily leaving no one hurt. Afterwards a Muslim contractor showed up with thirty workers to repair the damage, out of respect for the solidarity Filoni had shown.
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I have been struck while reading Cardinal biographis just how courageous some of these men are.
 
Cojuanco said:
Ah, but there is a place for the State in the lives of the poor. It cannot be too much, but we must not prescribe too little.
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Well, of course, because the state takes so much of the wealth of society are uses it for many purposes. Until the 19th century, the Church provided most of the available social services and handled a great deal of its wealth. It was this reason that the French Revolutionaries desired the lands etc of the Church, so they would bring the state out of bankruptcy. But of course, there was a deeper reason for this: they hated Christianity ,wished to eliminated the power of the priests over the superstitious masses, and “illuminate”their minds with scientific truth. Not really, of course: they wanted to substitute their own rule and their own doctrines for those of Christianity.People seem not to remember that the French Revolutionary wars were religious wars, with the war in the Vendee the most conspicuous example.
 
LisaA said:
Actually it’s a very sad trend that when people pay taxes they think they’ve discharged their obligation to help the poor. Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI said that the state cannot dispense charity which is based on love. But as the state takes over, or as the state restricts the Church from its mission by forcing either a compromise of doctrine (adoptions to homosexuals, abortions to women caught in sex trafficking) or withdrawing from that mission, it becomes a viscious circle. The Pope has to lead the faithful to engage with our neighbors rather than simply assuaging our guilt by paying Caesar.

Lisa
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The state today is but continuing with its two hundred year old program of making the Church socially irrelevant.
 
RobbyS said:
The state today is but continuing with its two hundred year old program of making the Church socially irrelevant.
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Seems like in English-speaking countries, it’s been a lot worse. Catholicism was completely suppressed in England by the likes of Henry VIII et al and the early colonists in the U.S. had very little exposure to it.
 
[SIGN]It seems like the Canadian Cardinal would be the next pope. He is my pick! I place my bet! 👍[/SIGN]
 
Cardinal Dolan said on TV this morning that one requirement for being elected Pope was the ability to communicate in several languages. Does anyone have a short list of Cardinals meeting this, and other criteria?
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Sounds like he’s hoping it’s him. I don’t get a vote, but I want someone fiercely Catholic, I want someone who will invite JESUS today, wish armegeddon on me and make me think I wasn’t the only one concerned with that.

I hope the Conclave can rustle-up someone whose had their Wheaties, and can wade-off into the masses like John the Baptist with a sock with a bar of soap in it.

I want someone who, when he is GOD’s choice, I am able to tell why. Either way, I will continue to seek out GOD’s reason, not my own ‘better-choice’ for candidate.

GOD BLESS AND SAVE US ALL AND KEEP OUR FUTURE PONTIFF
 
Least said:
Sounds like he’s hoping it’s him. I don’t get a vote, but I want someone fiercely Catholic, I want someone who will invite JESUS today, wish armegeddon on me and make me think I wasn’t the only one concerned with that.

I hope the Conclave can rustle-up someone whose had their Wheaties, and can wade-off into the masses like John the Baptist with a sock with a bar of soap in it.

I want someone who, when he is GOD’s choice, I am able to tell why. Either way, I will continue to seek out GOD’s reason, not my own ‘better-choice’ for candidate.

GOD BLESS AND SAVE US ALL AND KEEP OUR FUTURE PONTIFF
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Oh heavens no… Cardinal Dolan is not multi lingual as I understand. He calls his attempts at Italian primitive at best. I heard from a number of Priests and Bishops interviewed on varoius Catholic statoins that being able to converse in several languages is essential. Now as to the Americans, I understand Cardinal Sean O’Malley is quite the linguist so on that score he’s certainly a contender. I understand that Cardinal Oulette from Canada is multi lingual as well.

Loved your comment re John the Baptist. MUCH repenting and cleansing is in order in this world

Lisa
 
LisaA said:
. Now as to the Americans, I understand Cardinal Sean O’Malley is quite the linguist so on that score he’s certainly a contender.
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I admit, if it’s going to be a non-European, my private hope is Cardinal O’Malley.

I think having a Pope from a religious order would be a plus.
 
La Stampa is saying Cardinal Scola is taking the lead.

He was Patriarch of Venice and is the Archbishop of Milan, both of which have given the Church lots of Popes.
 
BillyT926 said:
La Stampa is saying Cardinal Scola is taking the lead.

He was Patriarch of Venice and is the Archbishop of Milan, both of which have given the Church lots of Popes.
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How does that adage go?

“Enter the conclave as pope, leave a cardinal”
 
Marie5890 said:
How does that adage go?

“Enter the conclave as pope, leave a cardinal”
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True but Ratzinger was the favorite, as was Luciani and Montini and Pacelli. So the favorite is often elected.

Scola is an eminent leader. Very strong
 
BillyT926 said:
La Stampa is saying Cardinal Scola is taking the lead.

He was Patriarch of Venice and is the Archbishop of Milan, both of which have given the Church lots of Popes.
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Cardinal Scola has been at or near the top from the beginning. He certainly comes from humble roots!

Interesting how the media starts to focus on one candidate or the other given the Cardinals have been effectively muzzled! I heard one correspondent saying they are floating a lot of names so when the Pope is named they can look back to an obscure reference made and claim they predicted it 😃

It’s a very interesting process isn’t it?

LIsa
 
I’d love an Eastern Catholic pope. Patriarch Rai. The Catholicos of the Malankaras etc.
 
LisaA said:
Cardinal Scola has been at or near the top from the beginning. He certainly comes from humble roots!

Interesting how the media starts to focus on one candidate or the other given the Cardinals have been effectively muzzled! I heard one correspondent saying they are floating a lot of names so when the Pope is named they can look back to an obscure reference made and claim they predicted it 😃

It’s a very interesting process isn’t it?

LIsa
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It’s very political as most things are. Of course it was worse when the Sovereign Pontiff ran the Papal States and crowned the HRE.

But the men are, for the most part better today than back then.
 
BillyT926 said:
It’s very political as most things are. Of course it was worse when the Sovereign Pontiff ran the Papal States and crowned the HRE.

But the men are, for the most part better today than back then.
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Yep, not too many are longing for the days of the Borgias!

Lisa
 
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