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InJesusItrust
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Why would God ignore the pleas of someone in mortal sin? Did Jesus?
As an unbeliever I was definitely a sinner but God answered my desperate cries for help.
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As an unbeliever I was definitely a sinner but God answered my desperate cries for help.
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NeedsMercy
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Actually, that was news to me, too, but yeah, I asked Fr. Sherpa about it in the AAA forum. Apparently, if one is in mortal sin, as I have been told that I am, prayers for forgiveness and mercy are heard, but nothing else, at least that’s what I inferred from Fr. Sherpa’s answer. Go figure.
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Lucky7
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No parting quotes from Church teaching or documents that support that her reasons are on par with the sin of abortion, etc. Not surprised.
As for anyone saying she is in mortal sin, I don’t recall anyone judging her soul. I have not and will not.
I know that I have been to this forum before and tried to rationalize against certain Church teachings, so I’m not coming at this from a place of superiority. If anything I see the signs of denial because I’ve been there…and it’s not a great place to be.
As for anyone saying she is in mortal sin, I don’t recall anyone judging her soul. I have not and will not.
I know that I have been to this forum before and tried to rationalize against certain Church teachings, so I’m not coming at this from a place of superiority. If anything I see the signs of denial because I’ve been there…and it’s not a great place to be.
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Tigg
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I don’t think you’ll need food, clothing, shelter and healthcare if you’re not even allowed to be born.
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Mickey
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And it seems you have confirmed that by voting for the champion of abortion-on-demand, infanticide, and Planned Parenthood.
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JMJSHJ
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Even though most of you guys have given me hours of hilarity, I’m going to cease posting on this thread. There’s just so many times you can be pulled into a loop of tiresome arguing. :yawn: But I do have a few parting words.
For all of you who think that I am “pro-abortion” or “pro-death”, you’re right. I’ve tried to deny it, but since you felt so jubilant to call me “pro-abortion”, I’ll let you believe anything that you want to believe. Anything I say doesn’t matter to you anyway, does it? Now I wouldn’t want to spoil your Saturnalia—ooops—Christmas, so yes, I am a baby-killer. :tiphat:
For those of you who believe that I am under the spell of Satan, I guess you found me out. What gave me away? It was the “Hail, Satan!” in my signature, wasn’t it? :bowdown: Now don’t forget, at the Final Judgment, the Evil One and I will be with the ones on the left (the goats). Gee, I can’t wait to spend eternity with my good friends Judas, Adolf and Josef. :grouphug:
Now that you know the unvarnished truth, is everybody happy? Hope this helps! (C’mon on now! I made your day, didn’t I? Admit it! There’s nothing like a good dose of self-righteousness to boost your ego, isn’t there? :yup
And finally, to use a poker metaphor, I’ll see your USCCB, one Cardinal Arinze and one Papal Nuncio and raise you one Saint:
“[My] true worth does not consist in what human beings think of [me]. What * really [am] consists in what God knows [me] to be." (St. John Berchmans) Very profound, don’t you think?*
Hilarity? Unborn are being murdered in the millions and you have Catholics arrogantly defending their right to vote for a person who wishes to continue and expand this tragedy.
I seriously doubt that if during WW2 Hitler got re-elected in Germany that Jews would be arguing among themselves about voting for Hitler.
No sincere Catholic should have ever voted for Obama.
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Lapey
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Even though most of you guys have given me hours of hilarity, I’m going to cease posting on this thread. There’s just so many times you can be pulled into a loop of tiresome arguing. :yawn: But I do have a few parting words.
For all of you who think that I am “pro-abortion” or “pro-death”, you’re right. I’ve tried to deny it, but since you felt so jubilant to call me “pro-abortion”, I’ll let you believe anything that you want to believe. Anything I say doesn’t matter to you anyway, does it? Now I wouldn’t want to spoil your Saturnalia—ooops—Christmas, so yes, I am a baby-killer. :tiphat:
For those of you who believe that I am under the spell of Satan, I guess you found me out. What gave me away? It was the “Hail, Satan!” in my signature, wasn’t it? :bowdown: Now don’t forget, at the Final Judgment, the Evil One and I will be with the ones on the left (the goats). Gee, I can’t wait to spend eternity with my good friends Judas, Adolf and Josef. :grouphug:
Now that you know the unvarnished truth, is everybody happy? Hope this helps! (C’mon on now! I made your day, didn’t I? Admit it! There’s nothing like a good dose of self-righteousness to boost your ego, isn’t there? :yup
And finally, to use a poker metaphor, I’ll see your USCCB, one Cardinal Arinze and one Papal Nuncio and raise you one Saint:
“[My] true worth does not consist in what human beings think of [me]. What * really [am] consists in what God knows [me] to be." (St. John Berchmans) Very profound, don’t you think?
JMJSHJ;10070845:
This was my initial thought as well. Does she take this subject serious? Evidently she does not by reading this sad sarcastic post. This issue of abortion deserves more than our sarcastic attempt to down play its importance, or to justify our support of the candidate who has shown through word deed and action to promote and protect the right of women to kill their children; and this post from a woman, sad. Lord, forgive them for they know not what they do!
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InJesusItrust
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Careful who you call a goat… Look at the kind face of Jesus. We need to be like Him, something I constantly fail at. He would not be so harsh to his brothers or sisters inside the Church.
I agree that Obama is not a good and honest man. This is obvious to anyone who sees beyond the propaganda. But still, be careful.
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Prodigal_Son1
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Mickey
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I think it was a joke.
Liberals are considered left leaning and conservatives right leaning.
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estesbob
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God allowed Obama to be re-elected for a reason. We must continue to oppose him where he is wrong, support him where he is right and watch Gods plan to unfold.
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wynnejj
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There’s a dimension to the Papal Nuncio’s speech that we have not even discussed.
CAMPAIGNING.
It is one thing to lament the need to vote for a candidate who is 100% Pro-Abort for other proportionate reasons. It is another to be active campaigner for that choice.
The Papal Nuncio seems to be telling Catholic educators and public figures to quit CAMPAIGNING.
In that case I think that there is much clearer case that one is truly actively supporting the intrinsic evil of abortion-on-demand and the litany of other intrinsic evils on the Democratic platform.
CAMPAIGNING.
It is one thing to lament the need to vote for a candidate who is 100% Pro-Abort for other proportionate reasons. It is another to be active campaigner for that choice.
The Papal Nuncio seems to be telling Catholic educators and public figures to quit CAMPAIGNING.
In that case I think that there is much clearer case that one is truly actively supporting the intrinsic evil of abortion-on-demand and the litany of other intrinsic evils on the Democratic platform.
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wynnejj
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Yes. The “goat” was goading as the “tea party” was teasing.
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wynnejj
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We are all aware that our local parishes generally are told that they are not to allow political campaigning for one side or other. This seems to be a 501c3 consideration, but it may be more in view of the Papal Nuncio’s message. For example, if I enter the parking lot with a “Vote for {whomever}”, I say that I stand for what he stands for, the whole kit & kaboodle. If I enter the parking lot with a “Vote Pro-Life”, I am saying give this issue primary consideration. One is allying with the full set of a major candidates’ principles, the other is allying with a specific principle. It seems that Catholic churches must distance themselves from named candidates for other than 501c3 reasons … else, there is another form of mixed message.
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Pitcharan
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When we face Jesus seated on his judgment seat, to His right will be the left (sheep) and to His left will be the right (goats)
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wynnejj
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Per Provobis’ earlier post which shows the biblical reference …
Regardless, He was not talking about political persuasion of sheep & goats.
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wynnejj
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I’d like to share this document, as it mirrors much of what the Papal Nuncio says about the “menace” to religious freedom …
A Statement of the Pennsylvania Catholic Bishops on the 2012 Elections .
A Statement of the Pennsylvania Catholic Bishops on the 2012 Elections .
( This was not read from my local parish’s pulpit. )
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Tampa_Dave
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I don’t think God follows American politics.
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