Parallellism between Mani and Muhammad

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You are wrong.

Here is an Al Jazeera report & video tape where Al Qaeda took credit . It shows some footage of the planning of the attack.

Al-Qaeda video takes credit for 9/11

english.aljazeera.net/English/archive/archive?ArchiveId=35762


The 90-minute video apparently shows bin Laden, the leader of al-Qaeda, taking part in the planning and preparation of the attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

The footage, first aired on Thursday, also shows Abu Hafsa al-Masri, al-Qaeda’s then military leader, and Ramzi bin al-Shaiba, co-ordinator of the 9/11 attacks, meeting in al-Qaeda’s training camps in Taliban controlled Afghanistan.

The tape also says that a previous unknown Arab Islamist, Abu al-Turab al-Urduni, supervised the training for the attacks.

The video said the preparation for the attacks included not only flight training but also lessons in street-fighting and how to forge official documents.
Fine. There was a third building (WTC 7) that collapsed on the same day 9/11 after seven hours that 2 towers attacked. Who attacked that building?
 
Again you have to look not only at the OT but also at Jewish law. The laws were such thier goal was to eventually outlaw slavery. IT worked. The laws pertaining to slaves in the Bible were givnig right to the slaves and forcing slave owners to treat well.

The point is that it is now outlawed.

Yes, in the 1960’s most Muslm countries outlaws salvery. But today it is still practiced openly in many Muslim countries. It is going on openly in Muslim countries in Africa.

I think that all laws that allow salvery in Islam should be removed from Shariah. What do you think about this idea?

Slavery in Pakistan
bbc.co.uk/worldservice/specials/1357_slavery_today/page4.shtml

gvnet.com/humantrafficking/Pakistan.htm

csmonitor.com/2003/1215/p08s01-wosc.html
Wow my dear, you may die for lie. But wont agree the fact that it is jews and Christians all over the world practiced slavery and evidence is there in your own HOLY BIBLE.

There may be slaves in Pakistan, Is the government allow that?

If there in any way that it can get through to your mind, let it be enterd that ISLAM is the only religion that gave back the slaves their own dignity and identity.

When slavery stoped in USA?
 
No, it is not a joke! It is the truth! Shariah law is inhuman and cruel and certainly not from a loving God!

Vickie
And the loving God supposed to be killing small boys (becasue they cannot have sex with them) and girls except virgin girls. In that girls, the loving God wanted his share -32 girls (for what?). That very loving God wanted to kill all new born babies(???). That Loving God was riding a cherob. That loving God was a barbar. Right?
 
And the loving God supposed to be killing small boys (becasue they cannot have sex with them) and girls except virgin girls. In that girls, the loving God wanted his share -32 girls (for what?). That very loving God wanted to kill all new born babies(???). That Loving God was riding a cherob. That loving God was a barbar. Right?
Does making such an absurd statement add any validity to your satanic shariah laws? :mad:

Vickie
 
Does making such an absurd statement add any validity to your satanic shariah laws? :mad:

Vickie
My dear, you don’t realise, what mockery of God you are making. These absurd statements are not main but from your HOLY book. Forget, you wont understand. For ex. do you know what is ‘cherob’?

You have the habit to sin. That is why you are arguing to simplify the Law. We don’t want sin or anti social activities in the society. So we do warn people of the strict law. We do warn them with hard punishments. If they still continue crime, we do punish them as it can be a lesson for other criminals. But sinning is globalised. Take any English movie. You will find the Hero either Womaniser, or drunk, or a angry revenger. If we open any european channel available here, Fashion, xxx, same stroies and movies are there. In country like UAE where I live, most of the xxx sites are blocked. But still many knows where is what available. They will find it because it has become as habit. And this why, there is only Saudi and Iran that practices Sharia Law among dezons of Islamic countries and Dozens of middle east countries. It is sad to say but, Govenrments have to compromise with the sinning attittude of the many.

If we need change, someone has to take initiative. Sharia law is the only solution, because it was once practiced and succeeded to make a peaceful society.
 
My dear, you don’t realise, what mockery of God you are making. These absurd statements are not main but from your HOLY book. Forget, you wont understand. For ex. do you know what is ‘cherob’?

You have the habit to sin. That is why you are arguing to simplify the Law. We don’t want sin or anti social activities in the society. So we do warn people of the strict law. We do warn them with hard punishments. If they still continue crime, we do punish them as it can be a lesson for other criminals. But sinning is globalised. Take any English movie. You will find the Hero either Womaniser, or drunk, or a angry revenger. If we open any european channel available here, Fashion, xxx, same stroies and movies are there. In country like UAE where I live, most of the xxx sites are blocked. But still many knows where is what available. They will find it because it has become as habit. And this why, there is only Saudi and Iran that practices Sharia Law among dezons of Islamic countries and Dozens of middle east countries. It is sad to say but, Govenrments have to compromise with the sinning attittude of the many.

If we need change, someone has to take initiative. Sharia law is the only solution, because it was once practiced and succeeded to make a peaceful society.
No one has the right to cram their beliefs down other peoples’ throats, whether they think they come from God or not!

If Sharia law is as wonderful as you claim, why is it that kaffir countries are much more advanced in technology and in better living than Muslim countries?? Why are Muslim countries so filled with poverty, ignorance and just plain backwardness? The answer is the repressive and inhuman shariah laws and Islam!

What constitutes a “peaceful” society to you? Where people are repressed and full of fear of punishment by the so-called “morality police”, where non-believers are treated as sub-humans?

Vickie
 
My dear, you don’t realise, what mockery of God you are making. These absurd statements are not main but from your HOLY book. Forget, you wont understand. For ex. do you know what is ‘cherob’?

You have the habit to sin. That is why you are arguing to simplify the Law. We don’t want sin or anti social activities in the society. So we do warn people of the strict law. We do warn them with hard punishments. If they still continue crime, we do punish them as it can be a lesson for other criminals. But sinning is globalised. Take any English movie. You will find the Hero either Womaniser, or drunk, or a angry revenger. If we open any european channel available here, Fashion, xxx, same stroies and movies are there. In country like UAE where I live, most of the xxx sites are blocked. But still many knows where is what available. They will find it because it has become as habit. And this why, there is only Saudi and Iran that practices Sharia Law among dezons of Islamic countries and Dozens of middle east countries. It is sad to say but, Govenrments have to compromise with the sinning attittude of the many.

If we need change, someone has to take initiative. Sharia law is the only solution, because it was once practiced and succeeded to make a peaceful society.
I’ve read this again and the arrogance behind it is appalling! You’re taking attributes for yourselves that belong only to God! You think that you’ve got the right to judge whether people are immoral or whatever. God is the one that is the ultimate judge, not Muslims or Islam!

If Muslims are going to those forbidden sites as you state, then you’re not as moral as you claim for yourselves. If you’re so easily corrupted, then you’re not virtuous as you claim! True virtue does not give in to vice even when tempted by it.

Vickie
 
No one has the right to cram their beliefs down other peoples’ throats, whether they think they come from God or not!
You are right.
If Sharia law is as wonderful as you claim, why is it that kaffir countries are much more advanced in technology and in better living than Muslim countries?? Why are Muslim countries so filled with poverty, ignorance and just plain backwardness? The answer is the repressive and inhuman shariah laws and Islam!
Do you think technology grown because of reiligion? Then why are most of scintist (Almost half of the ‘Christians’) are athiests or don’t practice christianity at all? How many Muslim countries you know with poverty? I know why India (India was a Hindu/Muslim country until freedom) and Pakistan is a poor country. It was ruled by you Christians for about 300 years and you looted our country. You even stolen the KOHINOOR DIAMOND which is still with Queen of Britain. Looted our money, man power and made us slaves.

How many countries you know practicing Sharia Law? There was a time in the History of Islam, In the Arab World, where there was not even single person were eligible for ZAKATH. (Do you know what is it?) That time and those rulers are gone. Just a belief in Jesus (pbuh) and a Chritian name may make anyone a Christian and you can count as ONE. But we don’t believe, it is only our faith makes us a Muslim but our deeds and thoughts as well. There are many who don’t fulfill it and God will judge on them.
What constitutes a “peaceful” society to you? Where people are repressed and full of fear of punishment by the so-called “morality police”, where non-believers are treated as sub-humans?

Vickie
No. A peaceful society becomes a reality, when a young girl can walk at midnight on the street without fear. If you come to this country called United Arab Emirates, I can show you that.

Read OT when you get time. You will find where really, the repression and full fear of punishment is. Read your own history 200 years back. What was the situation of women and slaves. I realised it from the British came to my country, INDIA.
 
I’ve read this again and the arrogance behind it is appalling! You’re taking attributes for yourselves that belong only to God! You think that you’ve got the right to judge whether people are immoral or whatever. God is the one that is the ultimate judge, not Muslims or Islam!

If Muslims are going to those forbidden sites as you state, then you’re not as moral as you claim for yourselves. If you’re so easily corrupted, then you’re not virtuous as you claim! True virtue does not give in to vice even when tempted by it.

Vickie
It is because of you and your ‘open’ lifestyle that attracts the innocents to flesh. Not only Muslim but all. Nude beach, Nude clubs, Nude in streets, Nude in ads, Nude channels, Nude movies with nude ‘heros’ and ‘heroins’… what do you have to exclude? It is our virtue of faith that makes us alerted and we try block access as much as possible.

Virtue of faith?

John 14:12 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father”

**Can you name even a single Christian, ever lived in the history, who could do better works than Jesus (pbuh) did? **
 
It is because of you and your ‘open’ lifestyle that attracts the innocents to flesh. Not only Muslim but all. Nude beach, Nude clubs, Nude in streets, Nude in ads, Nude channels, Nude movies with nude ‘heros’ and ‘heroins’… what do you have to exclude? It is our virtue of faith that makes us alerted and we try block access as much as possible.

Virtue of faith?

John 14:12 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do, he will do also; and greater works than these he will do; because I go to the Father”

**Can you name even a single Christian, ever lived in the history, who could do better works than Jesus (pbuh) did? **
See this link for the complete article.

Let us concede at the outset that, in a free society, freedom will frequently be used badly. The Islamic critics have a point when they deplore our high crime rates and illegitimacy rates, and the triviality and vulgarity of our popular culture. Freedom, by definition, includes freedom to do good or evil, to act nobly or basely. Thus we should not be surprised that there is a considerable amount of vice, licentiousness, and vulgarity in a free society. Given the warped timber of humanity, freedom becomes a forum for the expression of human flaws and weaknesses.

**But if freedom brings out the worst in people, it also brings out the best. The millions of Americans who live decent, praiseworthy lives deserve our highest admiration because they have opted for the good when the good is not the only available option. Even amidst the temptations that a rich and free society offers, they have remained on the straight path. Their virtue has special luster because it is freely chosen. **The free society does not guarantee virtue, any more than it guarantees happiness. But it allows for the pursuit of both, a pursuit rendered all the more meaningful and profound because success is not guaranteed, it has to be won through personal striving.

By contrast, the authoritarian society that Islamic fundamentalists advocate undermines the possibility of virtue. If the supply of virtue is insufficient in free societies, it is almost nonexistent in Islamic societies because coerced virtues are not virtues at all. Consider the woman who is required to wear a veil. There is no modesty in this, because the woman is being compelled. Compulsion cannot produce virtue, it can only produce the outward semblance of virtue.

**Vickie **
 
It is because of you and your ‘open’ lifestyle that attracts the innocents to flesh. Not only Muslim but all. … It is our virtue of faith that makes us alerted and we try block access as much as possible.
Please don’t try to save me from myself. Why do Muslims prohibit the practice of Free Will by humanity? Let them express their own virtue or vice.
**Can you name even a single Christian, ever lived in the history, who could do better works than Jesus (pbuh) did? **
No, but why limit it to Christians? Did Mohamed do better works than Christ?
 
Do you think technology grown because of reiligion? Then why are most of scintist (Almost half of the ‘Christians’) are athiests or don’t practice christianity at all? How many Muslim countries you know with poverty? I know why India (India was a Hindu/Muslim country until freedom) and Pakistan is a poor country. It was ruled by you Christians for about 300 years and you looted our country. You even stolen the KOHINOOR DIAMOND which is still with Queen of Britain. Looted our money, man power and made us slaves.
Oh please! How did Muhammad make money? He looted and raided caravans, he stole for a living and promised his “trustworthy” followers “booty” from his raids, not to mention that he also had sex slaves! Nice guy!

Vickie
 
hola

docetism is one of the many heresies that mohamed incorporated into his new religion. but just like the idea of a ‘final prophet,’ ‘corrupted scripture’ and ‘jinn’ it was not his original idea.

this particular heresy he stole from arabian gnostics, who were a syncretic religion that existed from about the 1st century into the 11th century.

they actually had many writings, including the ‘gnostic apocalypse of Peter’ which is not to be confused (as you have done) with the ‘apocalypse of Peter.’ while the apocalypse of Peter was canon briefly, the gnostic apocalypse of Peter was never canon since it came from pagans (not an apostle) with heavy pagan (not christian) ideas… like dualism, gnosis and docetism.

given the significant amount of influence gnosticism had on the creation of islam it is not surprising to see gnostic doctrines, taken directly from gnostic texts, in islamic beliefs and in islamic texts.

que Dios te bendiga
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Oh please! How did Muhammad make money? He looted and raided caravans, he stole for a living and promised his “trustworthy” followers “booty” from his raids, not to mention that he also had sex slaves! Nice guy!

Vickie
Any supporting?
 
Please don’t try to save me from myself. Why do Muslims prohibit the practice of Free Will by humanity? Let them express their own virtue or vice.
Why there is court and laws in Christian dominated countries? Why police use force on free will of any criminal?
No, but why limit it to Christians? Did Mohamed do better works than Christ?
Becasue it is a Christian belief. So the question is to you christians.

We don’t believe, we can be better than Mohamed (pbuh) and we don’t try to be. We are our own and we do try to be our own. We believe we will be judged on our deeds. Not Mohamed’s (pbuh) or anyone else. Why do Mohamed (pbuh) have to do better work than Jesus (pbuh)?
 
See this link for the complete article.

Let us concede at the outset that, in a free society, freedom will frequently be used badly. The Islamic critics have a point when they deplore our high crime rates and illegitimacy rates, and the triviality and vulgarity of our popular culture. Freedom, by definition, includes freedom to do good or evil, to act nobly or basely. Thus we should not be surprised that there is a considerable amount of vice, licentiousness, and vulgarity in a free society. Given the warped timber of humanity, freedom becomes a forum for the expression of human flaws and weaknesses.

**But if freedom brings out the worst in people, it also brings out the best. The millions of Americans who live decent, praiseworthy lives deserve our highest admiration because they have opted for the good when the good is not the only available option. Even amidst the temptations that a rich and free society offers, they have remained on the straight path. Their virtue has special luster because it is freely chosen. **The free society does not guarantee virtue, any more than it guarantees happiness. But it allows for the pursuit of both, a pursuit rendered all the more meaningful and profound because success is not guaranteed, it has to be won through personal striving.

By contrast, the authoritarian society that Islamic fundamentalists advocate undermines the possibility of virtue. If the supply of virtue is insufficient in free societies, it is almost nonexistent in Islamic societies because coerced virtues are not virtues at all. Consider the woman who is required to wear a veil. There is no modesty in this, because the woman is being compelled. Compulsion cannot produce virtue, it can only produce the outward semblance of virtue.

**Vickie **
For your kind information, veil is not compulsory but choice. Islam itself is not compulsory but choice. Now, don’t stress on the number of good people that freedom could make in America or any Europian country. We see that everyday.
 
For your kind information, veil is not compulsory but choice. Islam itself is not compulsory but choice. Now, don’t stress on the number of good people that freedom could make in America or any Europian country. We see that everyday.
Is this the best answer you can give?? Nothing in Islam is choice! It’s all compulsion and fear. Why are apostates executed for wanting to leave Islam?

Denial, denial, you live in complete denial! You can’t even think for yourselves, your mullahs and imams do all your thinking for you.

Vickie
 
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