Parents’ ‘Sex Ed Sit Out’ Protesting Forced Gender Ideology in Schools Spreads Across Country

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It links me to a pdf file. The trends only go back to 2002 not 1930.
 
What worries me is the vulnerable people who are being set up for failure. I will give the example of someone I used to know called ‘Fred’. Fred is an anatomically normal, tall, broad, XY man. In his late 30s after marrying and fathering a child he comes out as trans. Obviously I don’t claim to know his state of mind.

Is it really a good thing to encourage someone like Fred to believe that some hormones and a dress are going to make the rest of the world see him as a woman? I know this sounds unkind but this person looks more like a man in drag. Facial feminisation surgery isn’t funded here and there isn’t anything to be done about his obviously male bone structure.
 
I’m cases like that it seems like society just needs to learn to be more accepting of people. Not everyone looks great. But we shouldn’t be judged on our looks.
 
But this person will never be able to present as a woman. He was given false hope which I feel is very wrong. You cant demand that society pretend to see something, it reminds me of The Emperors New Clothes.
 
We should treat people with respect no matter what they look like. Plenty of women have masculine features like facial hair and we’re able to show them respect.

I don’t demand society see something, I ask that they treat people how they wish to be treated regardless of appearance.
 
What this report shows in Table 1 is that in 1930 -59 around 80% of all births were conceived after marriage. After that, pre-marital conceptions increased until around 50% of births were conceived outside of marriage.
And the marrying-after-finding-out-she’s-pregnant scenario was only around 10% from 1930-94 so that didn’t change vastly.
So Jim’s anecdote compliments the data.
 
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From what I see premarital conception was at 53.3% in the 30s and down to 23.3% by the 90s
 
Very few women look anything like as a masculine as he does. Obviously he should be treated with respect and dignity as a person but to expect everyone to just pretend he is a woman to please him is ridiculous.
 
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It’s really very easy. It’s like having a friend who tells you that their name is Bob. Or calling someone by their married name. I see nothing ridiculous about calling someone what they want to be called. It’s just polite.
 
No, you’re misinterpreting that.
The 53.6% in 1930-34 is derived from the total non-marital conception percentage (8.2 + 9.5).
The 53.6% is arrived at when
x=[%premaritally conceived birth/(%premarital birth + %premaritally conceived birth)]*100%
x=[9.5/(8.2+9.5)]*100%.
x=53.67231638%
What this means is only 17.7% of pre-marital conceptions occurred in that time period but 53.6% of those women married after finding out they were pregnant.
Fast forward to 1990-94, 52.8% of births were pre-martially conceived. But only 23.3% of these women married after discovering their pregnancies.
 
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The name is one thing but him following me into the women’s changing room would feel like any other 6’3 broad chested man following me in. Most women will have experienced inappropriate behaviour from men and this would make many women anxious.
 
Ah, okay then. I’ll read more when I get home. I suspect there are a lot of factors to it, but it does seem to show people have always had premarital sex. Which is what I was trying to explain.
 
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The name is one thing but him following me into the women’s changing room would feel like any other 6’3 broad chested man following me in. Most women will have experienced inappropriate behaviour from men and this would make many women anxious.
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I have already mentioned that I think we should just have more neutral single stall restrooms in general. Trans* people who don’t “pass” are in a horrible position due to this bother. Plus in my exclusive single stall neutral restrooms are defaced less.
 
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To be honest I thought the reduction in teen pregnancy had more to do with young women aspiring to further education.
 
I personally would not feel able to use a gender neutral stall based restroom without a chaperone but I’m just a woman so obviously I matter less. Many women suffer violence and sexual abuse from men, its not some hysterical irrational fear and we have every right to want female only spaces.
 
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it does seem to show people have always had premarital sex.
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I don’t think anyone is denying this. What the data shows is that it happened but not as common as today. It increased exponentially from 1960-1964 to 1990-1994.
 
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