Parish Dissent from Church Teaching

[puppson]

Could you imagine a “Support the porn industry” Mass at a church that wasn’t centered around praying for all those people to be delivered from that lifestyle?

Or “support masturbators,” or “serial adulterers,” or “bondage and discipline aficianados,” etc. etc. You’ve pointed out a crucial distinction. I’m under no illusions about what the goals of those pushing the LGBTetc agenda in the Church are.

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

Anyway, I don’t think the message that Pride is attempting to give is contrary to Church teaching, but I do think those that hypersexualize it are out of line.

You must realize that the Pride Parades don’t just give one message.

 

[edwest211]

Could you list the messages?

 

[VanitasVanitatum]

I don’t know why you are asking.

 

[puppson]

Yes, everyone is welcome.
As to your other points, putting the word “Pride” before the word “Mass” says it all.

 

[Delphinus]

Woah, good catch there!

 

[puppson]

Hard to miss, when they print it in all caps and the fake rainbow colors.

 

[FiveLinden]

he is several continents away from US

Not so. There is only water between the mainland US and New Zealand, to say nothing of the state of Hawai’i or American Samoa. Unless Bear you were thinking of going the other way?

 

[FiveLinden]

In my opinion, a homosexual is somebody who endorses the pro-homosexual agenda, practices homosexual acts and promotes them. Somebody who suffers from same sex attraction might just be celibate.

So a priest keeping to his vows is not a heterosexual?

 

[catholic03]

There is a place in New Zealand called Linden in my city!

 

[FiveLinden]

I find it sickening that a parish would host such masses. It is disgusting.

Why do words like this come up so often when people are supposedly discussing moral theology in an objective way?

 

[FiveLinden]

There is a place in New Zealand called Linden in my city!

A most famous tree!

 

[catholic03]

No, a suburb. Anyway, I hope my explanation clarifies.

 

[puppson]

If they wish, they should identify as a faithful celibate Catholic who suffers from the affliction of same sex attraction.

Even this is far more than I need or care to know.

 

[TheLittleLady]

There is a Catholic group called the Calix Society. They are a group for alcoholics, this group works in conjunction with AA.

At every AA meeting, people stand up and say “Hi, may name is Joe and I am an alcoholic”. They know that an alcoholic is never “cured”, they are always an alcoholic.

The Calix Society often has a Mass before/after a meeting. This is a Mass for alcoholics and their families, it is advertised as such for those who might not be aware of the Society or of this sort of support.

Are these masses, specifically targeted at alcoholics, disgusting? Is it sickening that a priest would invite alcoholics to their parish?

 

[Kei]

Public perception =/= Church teaching, which cannot change but only develop.

To the OP, perhaps the news is reporting in a fashion that obscures what is meant. So, I would first try to see what the priest means to do by the stuff during this month of the Sacred Heart. Then, if it is actually heterodox, report it to the bishop. If the bishop even is heterodox, then report it to Rome.

 

[fide]

I would have a hard time if I belonged to a
parish where the priest openly acknowledged gay pride on the church website or anywhere
in church. I guess I am old fashioned.

No, not old-fashioned. You are “Sacred-Tradition-fashioned”. “Fashioned”, that is, formed by and according to the timeless Sacred Tradition entrusted to His Church. Never let go of that!