At the moment, my concern is not so much your Young Earth view (though that does concern me), but rather your claim that you can debunk the theory of evolution.Because the scientific evidences for one. Simple list for you here.
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The Worldview of evolution is inconsistent and arbitrary. By that alone it is false not to mention the theories are promoted by Atheist who do not have the Spirit of Truth. Then I have the Authority of God on my side.
Yes it would.I’m not being some sort of champion for evolution here. I’m not educated enough in science to know that. I’m just pointing out that, even if it were proven that some specific type of evolution were 100% exactly how the world were created, it would not be a threat to faith or to Catholic dogma. It would not be a threat to the bible. It would not disprove God’s existence. It would essentially just be another interesting fact about God’s creation.
In fact, if evolution were true, I don’t see how people could deny God. Without His guidance, the Big Bang is not possible. Without His guidance, the chances of people evolving are infinitesimally minute. You simply can’t have creation, no matter how it was created, without a creator. God IS the creator.
That is all.
The Bible is not correct if interpreted as a historical record. Show me where in the Bible it says that I must interpret everything therein to be historical record.There are several reasons why evolution is inconsistent and false. For one it has no substantial evidence to prove its existence. It is a theory made up by Godless men to explain the origins of man.
Let me start a simple list and if you want to look at some evidences I will show you.
- It goes against the Authority of God. So either God is a liar or the Bible is wrong.
I’m still hung up on the fact that you said that the theory of evolution claims that human beings evolved from monkeys. Do you see my problem here? That is so far gone that I do not for a moment believe that you know what the theory of evolution really is.[other things]
I think you’re adding things to the theory of evolution that ARE wrong, but aren’t actually part of the theory of evolution. Rather, they are things that SOME people who believe evolution also happen to believe.There are several reasons why evolution is inconsistent and false. For one it has no substantial evidence to prove its existence. (okay, that is debatable) It is a theory made up by Godless men to explain the origins of man. (ad hominin)
Let me start a simple list and if you want to look at some evidences I will show you.
- It goes against the Authority of God. So either God is a liar or the Bible is wrong.
No, your INTERPRETATION of the beginning of Genesis as a historical and scientific account would be wrong.- They cannot provide evidence of an earth old enough to provide the time for evolution.
Okay. I’m not really interested in which is correct. I don’t know enough science for that. My point is that God exists, as creator, either way, and that if evolution were true, it would not undermine faith in God.- God is the God of Order and Truth.
Yes. He is. We agree 100%- Evolution says we spawned from a bowl of soup. (Completely Arbitrary)
ATHEISTS say that. Actually, evolution is consistent with God guiding it very closely, a la breeding. It relies heavily on the ORDERLY laws of genetics (created by God). The “bowl of soup” brand of evolution is statistically almost impossible, which is why, if evolution did occur, we have strong evidence that it was guided by something. Thus, we have evidence of God.- Macro-evolution is a fallacy.
Again, I’m not concerned right now about what scientifically happened. Just pointing out that God created either way.- At what time did we obtain a Soul?
We obtained the soul when we became human. God created a soul for the first humans in an act of special creation. These humans were Adam and Eve, and we are all descended from them. This answer is the same whether the world was made in six days or through evolution.
You really like that line, don’t you?Yes it would.
Either God is a liar or the Bible is wrong, which is it?
This. Pope Benedict XVI actually calls the debate between creationism and evolutionism absurd.Disproving your interpretation is not the same as disproving the Scripture.
You tag yourself as Catholic. Please note that the Catholic Church does not teach Young Earth Creationism.
The Big Bang (which goes against YEC) was created by Msgr. Georges Lemaître, a CATHOLIC priestBut many scientists DO believe in God. Many are Catholic. Many believe in the bible. They don’t do science by perusing the bible, --that’s not good science or good scripture study–, and they find no contradiction between Faith and science. Nor do I.
We’ve always taught literal Genesis, you say. Then why did JPII support evolution?Catholic Doctrine has always taught Literal Genesis. Scientific scrutiny also proves the bible to be True. Evolution and Old Earth theories have been exploded.
There are several reasons why evolution is inconsistent and false. For one it has no substantial evidence to prove its existence. It is a theory made up by Godless men to explain the origins of man.
Let me start a simple list and if you want to look at some evidences I will show you.
- It goes against the Authority of God. So either God is a liar or the Bible is wrong.
- They cannot provide evidence of an earth old enough to provide the time for evolution.
- God is the God of Order and Truth.
- Evolution says we spawned from a bowl of soup. (Completely Arbitrary)
- Macro-evolution is a fallacy.
- At what time did we obtain a Soul?
Though faith is above reason, there can never be any real discrepancy between faith and reason. Since the same God who reveals mysteries and infuses faith has bestowed the light of reason on the human mind, God cannot deny himself, nor can truth ever contradict truth. Consequently, methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things of faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are.
If God wanted it to happen that way, then it did. It would not diminish God in any way if He used evolution to create man. To say otherwise is to put a limit on God’s power - to say, “He couldn’t do that.”Does evolution not teach that we came from a rock that had gotten rained on for millions of years and then spawned a cell crystal thing and self-replicated into a bowl of soup and then we evolved eventually hitting primate MONKEY stage before we actually became man? Hence Evolution, evolved life.
To say otherwise is to Deny the Biblical Authority of Scripture.If God wanted it to happen that way, then it did. It would not diminish God in any way if He used evolution to create man. To say otherwise is to put a limit on God’s power - to say, “He couldn’t do that.”
But I was wondering also, do you think the world is flat? (serious question).
Ishii
ANYTHING sounds stupid if you simplify and parody it. Also, this quote demonstrates that you don’t quite understand what evolution actually is.Does evolution not teach that we came from a rock that had gotten rained on for millions of years and then spawned a cell crystal thing and self-replicated into a bowl of soup and then we evolved eventually hitting primate MONKEY stage before we actually became man? Hence Evolution, evolved life.
Well Pope Benedict XVI and many god-fearing scientists believe in evolution.There is a rational answer for every single question that you can have about a young earth and why evolution is false. Don’t fall into the trap of believing evolution because the Godless scientist say it’s true. Look up the evidences for yourself. See what the Creation scientist say. Compare it to scripture. Compare it to evolution. You will find the answers if you really want to know.