Pat Robertson challenges creationism, cities dinosaurs

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To say otherwise is to Deny the Biblical Authority of Scripture.
Exactly what is the biblical authority of scripture? Could you explain that please? Does the Biblical Authority of Scripture come from the Bible or from the Church, the Magistrium which created the canon? The same Magisterium which teaches that it is OK to believe in evolution by the way.

So where in Genesis does it say you have to take it literally?

And… do you take Leviticus just as literally?:confused:
 
To say otherwise is to Deny the Biblical Authority of Scripture.
I just want to confirm this once more, before we go any further.

You are, in fact, asserting that the Earth is flat?
 
Exactly what is the biblical authority of scripture? Could you explain that please? Does the Biblical Authority of Scripture come from the Bible or from the Church, the Magistrium which created the canon? The same Magisterium which teaches that it is OK to believe in evolution by the way.

So where in Genesis does it say you have to take it literally?

And… do you take Leviticus just as literally?:confused:
Read this if your concerned about the Magistrium and doctrine.
kolbecenter.org/the-traditional-catholic-doctrine-of-creation/
 
Oh I love the little things God CREATED…
Nobody here is denying that God is the creator.

Anyways, I agree with the Pope. This debate is absurd. It is also just a little bit scandalous. When people see this, they might assume that what you are saying is what the Church teaches (which it isn’t) and it might pose a barrier to their belief and doom them to hell. I sincerely hope and pray that that does not happen.

Well, I’m done. No harm is done to your soul by believing a literalist account (I hate to say creationists because theistic evolution is also creationist, in that it has a directly involved creator). However, I’m starting to become annoyed at a display of complete disregard for God’s gift of reason, so I’m leaving to avoid being uncharitable. Do not take this as an indication that you “won”. I am merely avoiding the near occasion for sin.

May God, the creator of all the universe, bless you.
 
Nobody here is denying that God is the creator.

Anyways, I agree with the Pope. This debate is absurd. It is also just a little bit scandalous. When people see this, they might assume that what you are saying is what the Church teaches (which it isn’t) and it might pose a barrier to their belief and doom them to hell. I sincerely hope and pray that that does not happen.

Well, I’m done. No harm is done to your soul by believing a literalist account (I hate to say creationists because theistic evolution is also creationist, in that it has a directly involved creator). However, I’m starting to become annoyed at a display of complete disregard for God’s gift of reason, so I’m leaving to avoid being uncharitable. Do not take this as an indication that you “won”. I am merely avoiding the near occasion for sin.

May God, the creator of all the universe, bless you.
Why should anyone believe that bible if the first page is false? Honestly do you think that the unbelievers don’t see this…
 
Azygos… consider this.

The Pope does not agree with the Young Earth Creationists.

Who has more credibility in your eyes: the Pope or the YEC crowd?
 
Azygos… consider this.

The Pope does not agree with the Young Earth Creationists.

Who has more credibility in your eyes: the Pope or the YEC crowd?
I can’t explain this but to say that God has allowed this to happen. The Pope is wrong and science proves a young earth. The Catholic Church has always supported literal genesis and it is imbedded in doctine too. So either the Catholic Church was always wrong or the Pope is wrong. I take it that the Pope is wrong and unless he puts it into doctrine that the Earth is Old then I’m going to believe in the Truth. Since God won’t abandon his Church then Old Earth Evolution will probably never enter into Official Doctrine.
 
I can’t explain this but to say that God has allowed this to happen. The Pope is wrong and science proves a young earth. The Catholic Church has always supported literal genesis and it is imbedded in doctine too. So either the Catholic Church was always wrong or the Pope is wrong. I take it that the Pope is wrong and unless he puts it into doctrine that the Earth is Old then I’m going to believe in the Truth. Since God won’t abandon his Church then Old Earth Evolution will probably never enter into Official Doctrine.
Try reading what he says.

You are just going to twist yourself in knots if you seriously think the Pope is wrong and God is allowing this to happen.

What if you are wrong? Do you want to remain wrong?

And seriously look at my previous questions:
  • Where does the Bible get it’s authority from? As you know it’s not from itself, but from the Church, so how could the Bible pronounce the Church wrong?
  • If the bible is literal why aren’t you following Levitical Law?
 
Is the Earth flat?

Ishii
1 Corinthians 3
18 Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you considers himself wise in this age, let him become a fool so as to become wise.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in the eyes of God, for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own ruses,”

20 and again: “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.”
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If I am foolish it is for God.**

1 Corinthians 1
25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom (Including Scientist)
 
Just watched it…an advertisement for bad science, and I use that term loosely, being sold at a profit. Anyone can create a DVD.

I was hoping that your were arguing for four pages just to argue…but that hope has been dashed. You really are saying that people like those in that DVD are to be taken more seriously than Pope Benedict and a plethora of other learned people.

So, here’s my opinion, Part Robertson actually got one right.I know, I know, a miracle may have to be authoritatively declared.

John
 
1 Corinthians 3
18 Let no one deceive himself. If any one among you considers himself wise in this age, let him become a fool so as to become wise.

19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in the eyes of God, for it is written: “He catches the wise in their own ruses,”

20 and again: “The Lord knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are vain.”
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If I am foolish it is for God.**

1 Corinthians 1
25 For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom (Including Scientist)
What does foolish mean here?
 
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