They don’t have any proof for “Changes over time” it’s all arbitrary. Just like they don’t have any proof for Macro-evolution because it doesn’t exist yet they say it’s fact. You can’t observe or test for Macro-evolution so how can you call that Factual Science?Evolution means “change over time” and biological evolution is certainly an observed process. A fact, as it were. “Theory” does not mean “we think maybe it’s possible things change over time.” "Theory is an explanation of observed or predicted phenomena. The theory of aerodynamics doesn’t mean “We think maybe it’s possible things fly.”
No one is proposing there might possibly have been evolution of species, that’s a fact we have observed and has been noted for hundreds of years. The theory is just the explanation of how it happens.
Evolution is a belief system and it’s used to replace creation because people don’t want to believe in God. So when you hear about Darwinism (Evolutionist Religion) remember it’s just another pagan religion that will be refuted and shown to everyone as false in due time. Either in this life or the next everyone will know they have been duped.Of course it’s stupid. Germ theory is not a religion. Neither is evolution.
“Germs are FACT and Evolution is NOT FACT”.
Well, that is what we are debating, isn’t it?
We have extensive fossil records which cannot be denied. Also, evolution has been observed in E. coli.They don’t have any proof for “Changes over time” it’s all arbitrary. Just like they don’t have any proof for Macro-evolution because it doesn’t exist yet they say it’s fact. You can’t observe or test for Macro-evolution so how can you call that Factual Science?
Um, no, people who believe in evolution are not just people who ‘don’t want to believe in God’. I, and many other Catholics, believe in evolution AND God. This is a belief deemed acceptable by the Catholic Church.Evolution is a belief system and it’s used to replace creation because people don’t want to believe in God. So when you hear about Darwinism (Evolutionist Religion) remember it’s just another pagan religion that will be refuted and shown to everyone as false in due time. Either in this life or the next everyone will know they have been duped.
E Coli has always been a form of E Coli. Fossil Records actually disprove evolution and human bones disprove evolution. In fact some of their human bone evidence has been proven fraudulent and the rest is not proof of anything as it is all human.We have extensive fossil records which cannot be denied. Also, evolution has been observed in E. coli.
You do this because your afraid to get laughed at or because of social pressure. If all the scientist were promoting creation then you would believe in creation. You guys keep calling me crazy but I will boast a minute in foolishness to get you to understand. What is strength? Strength is being able to take all the blows from the mass majority of evolutionist and the laughing, mocking etc… It would be easier for me to cave in on my beliefs but that would also be a sign of weakness. Don’t confuse this with pride, in fact it’s out of humility that I accepted the Truth. Do you really believe that I want to be mocked and called foolish?Um, no, people who believe in evolution are not just people who ‘don’t want to believe in God’. I, and many other Catholics, believe in evolution AND God. This is a belief deemed acceptable by the Catholic Church.
Fossil radioactivity shortens geologic “ages” to a few years.We have extensive fossil records which cannot be denied. Also, evolution has been observed in E. coli.
No.God is incapable of creating things instantly, therefore evolution is true.
voodoo mathFossil radioactivity shortens geologic “ages” to a few years.
Radiohalos are rings of color formed around microscopic bits of radioactive minerals in rock crystals. They are fossil evidence of radioactive decay. “Squashed” Polonium-210 radiohalos indicate that Jurassic, Triassic, and Eocene formations in the Colorado plateau were deposited within months of one another, not hundreds of millions of years apart as required by the conventional time scale. “Orphan” Polonium-218 radiohalos, having no evidence of their mother elements, imply accelerated nuclear decay and very rapid formation of associated minerals.
Not enough Stone Age skeletons.
Evolutionary anthropologists now say that Homo sapiens existed for at least 185,000 years before agriculture began, during which time the world population of humans was roughly constant, between one and ten million. All that time they were burying their dead, often with artifacts. By that scenario, they would have buried at least eight billion bodies. If the evolutionary time scale is correct, buried bones should be able to last for much longer than 200,000 years, so many of the supposed eight billion stone age skeletons should still be around (and certainly the buried artifacts). Yet only a few thousand have been found. This implies that the Stone Age was much shorter than evolutionists think, perhaps only a few hundred years in many areas.
When God created the universe something had to indeed pop into existence, instantly because “Nothing Material” existed in the beginning. Only a Immaterial God existed. So he had to instantly create something therefor you claim is illogical and your claim is also totally arbitrary.God is incapable of creating things instantly, therefore evolution is true.
Makes perfect sense because humans are naturally naturalist. They can’t judge spiritual things because spiritual things are foolish to them. (1 Cor. 2:14)Hey, we humans say that it is absurd for the universe to look old but be young. If we are going to stick to our own knowledge we are going to have to place limitations on God.
If all the scientists believed in creationism, then I would indeed believe in creationists. Just like if all scientists repeatedly and unanimously said that a certain chemical causes cancer, I would believe them. Just like I believe in the theory of relativity, even though I was not personally on the airplane that observed time discrepancy. It’s not because I’m afraid of being mocked, but because they have studied certain things for years.You do this because your afraid to get laughed at or because of social pressure. If all the scientist were promoting creation then you would believe in creation. You guys keep calling me crazy but I will boast a minute in foolishness to get you to understand. What is strength? Strength is being able to take all the blows from the mass majority of evolutionist and the laughing, mocking etc… It would be easier for me to cave in on my beliefs but that would also be a sign of weakness. Don’t confuse this with pride, in fact it’s out of humility that I accepted the Truth. Do you really believe that I want to be mocked and called foolish?
No, fossil records really don’t disprove evolution. I could talk about the many, many transition species that have been discovered, but I really don’t think that you are open to changing your mind.E Coli has always been a form of E Coli. Fossil Records actually disprove evolution and human bones disprove evolution. In fact some of their human bone evidence has been proven fraudulent and the rest is not proof of anything as it is all human.
So Azygos, getting back to my question I asked of you about thinking the world is flat. You answered: " does a map have 4 corners?" So I assume that you do believe the world is flat, can you confirm that?When God created the universe something had to indeed pop into existence, instantly because “Nothing Material” existed in the beginning. Only a Immaterial God existed. So he had to instantly create something therefor you claim is illogical and your claim is also totally arbitrary.
Not to mention you can’t believe in an all powerful God if your going to put limitations on his power.
I’ve been speaking logic and quoting scientist. Not to mention it is the Truth. Yet again your biased view points come flying through with Darwinism colors. You should call your religion Darwinism Catholicism. I will call mine Creation Catholicism.If all the scientists believed in creationism, then I would indeed believe in creationists. Just like if all scientists repeatedly and unanimously said that a certain chemical causes cancer, I would believe them. Just like I believe in the theory of relativity, even though I was not personally on the airplane that observed time discrepancy. It’s not because I’m afraid of being mocked, but because they have studied certain things for years.
I don’t have any reason to doubt them on things that they have learned. BECAUSE IT DOES NOT GO AGAINST CHURCH DOCTRINE.
No, fossil records really don’t disprove evolution. I could talk about the many, many transition species that have been discovered, but I really don’t think that you are open to changing your mind.
In fact, I am truly beginning to think that this whole discussion is pointless, as
This conversation is moot. Either belief is acceptable by the Church, regardless of your opposition to evolution.
- We will never agree
- THE CHURCH DOES NOT OPPOSE EITHER EVOLUTION OR CREATIONISM
This is the last post of yours that I have read, or will reply to. I am going to sleep now.
Thank you and good night.
Oh, and P.S., Saint Augustine said something quite interesting. I think you should read it. It’s rather long, and rather harsher than I mean it, but still illuminating:
"Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens, and the other elements of the world, about the motion and orbit of the stars and even their size and relative positions, about the predictable eclipses of the sun and moon, the cycles of the years and the seasons, about the kinds of animals, shrubs, stones, and so forth, and this knowledge he holds to as being certain from reason and experience.
Now, it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an infidel to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of Holy Scripture, talking nonsense on these topics; and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. The shame is not so much that an ignorant individual is derided, but that people outside the household of faith think our sacred writers held such opinions, and, to the great loss of those for whose salvation we toil, the writers of our Scripture are criticized and rejected as unlearned men. If they find a Christian mistaken in a field which they themselves know well and hear him maintaining his foolish opinions about our books, how are they going to believe those books in matters concerning the resurrection of the dead, the hope of eternal life, and the kingdom of heaven, when they think their pages are full of falsehoods on facts which they themselves have learnt from experience and the light of reason?
Reckless and incompetent expounders of Holy Scripture bring untold trouble and sorrow on their wiser brethren when they are caught in one of their mischievous false opinions and are taken to task by those who are not bound by the authority of our sacred books. For then, to defend their utterly foolish and obviously untrue statements, they will try to call upon Holy Scripture for proof and even recite from memory many passages which they think support their position, although they understand neither what they say nor the things about which they make assertion."
Now I’m really going to question the authenticity of you being a Christian. Christians don’t mock people and you know full well my answer to this. So either your mocking me or your trying to make me look like a fool. How very unchristian of you and I’m not going to respond to your rubbish.So Azygos, getting back to my question I asked of you about thinking the world is flat. You answered: " does a map have 4 corners?" So I assume that you do believe the world is flat, can you confirm that?
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