Paul leads GOP NH field 2016, Hillary leads Dems

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ishii said:
That is not the policy of the GOP or conservatives. That’s just your Strawman. Liberal princess, it’s okay to disagree, but don’t make up lies.

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Yea, she left out that conservatives step on puppy dog tails too.

Still waiting for Liberal Princess to back up her claim that conservatives oppose safety nets for the poor. She might as well say liberals cut food stamps for the poor, because they could have voted for bigger increases. :rolleyes:
 
qui_est_ce said:
Yea, she left out that conservatives step on puppy dog tails too.
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But we do… At least I do… Well, I tripped over my own feet and accidentally stepped on his foot. Never have I seen such a heart-melting look of hurt and betrayal. :crying:
 
ishii said:
Well, if you look at '80 & 84 - the Republicans nominated a conservative and a moderate and won both times. I think the key is having a conservative heading the ticket, not a token conservative as vice president. I will also add that having a “mere conservative” i.e. one who is solidly conservative on the issues but a boring, uninspiring candidate will not win either. The candidate has to be a good communicator who can rise above the Democrat media spin machine and speak to the American people. I believe there is one out there - Rubio comes to mind. Possibly someone else. I don’t think Santorum ever fit that description.

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I agree with you about Rubio. He needs to be on the ticket if not be the nominee himself. I voted for him. Rand Paul is not like his Dad thankfully.
 
LiberalPrincess said:
Rubio? There is no way he will get past the tea party after his proposals on immigration reform.

Not that it matters. HRC will be president. 👍
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Yep!! No one on the GOP list can beat HRC…. that’s why they are scrambling now, 3 years early. I kind of want Ted Cruz to run just for the fun of it… His running would really energize the Dem base. Kind of like the Palin pick….
All I know is I am looking forward to the next couple of years in politics!!

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Personanongrata said:
Yep!! No one on the GOP list can beat HRC…. that’s why they are scrambling now, 3 years early. I kind of want Ted Cruz to run just for the fun of it… His running would really energize the Dem base. Kind of like the Palin pick….
All I know is I am looking forward to the next couple of years in politics!!

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Amazing,that as a Catholic,this is your thinking.I don’t know your age,but I do know LP is in her mid twenties.Sadly, she will be living out this nightmare far longer than I and many others’
So yeah,be as gleefully and goading as you wish ,someday,you will wake up!
 
I’m hoping Dr. Ben Carson will run. It’s a longshot, but I’m hoping!
 
tjones80 said:
I’m hoping that Cruz or Paul is the GOP pick. Then it will be an easy win for Hillary in 2016.
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No, no, no - I want it to be really easy for HRC, so I am hoping Jindal is the GOP pick!! Will make for some great TV!!!

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Personanongrata said:
No, no, no - I want it to be really easy for HRC, so I am hoping Jindal is the GOP pick!! Will make for some great TV!!!

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I’d be more concerned about the Democratic Party primaries, if you are an HRC fan. She will be trashed and probably won’t be the nominee. Therefore, it won’t matter who the GOP pick is. 🤷
 
I voted for “other” because as of now it is my intention to write my name in for President. Unless someone runs whom I can implicitly trust, that’s how i intend to vote and the way it looks right now, i’m writing my name in.
 
ishii said:
Well, if you look at '80 & 84 - the Republicans nominated a conservative and a moderate and won both times. I think the key is having a conservative heading the ticket, not a token conservative as vice president. I will also add that having a “mere conservative” i.e. one who is solidly conservative on the issues but a boring, uninspiring candidate will not win either. The candidate has to be a good communicator who can rise above the Democrat media spin machine and speak to the American people. I believe there is one out there - Rubio comes to mind. Possibly someone else. I don’t think Santorum ever fit that description.

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? What worked for the GOP in '80 and '84 isn’t working today. That seems to be the primary problem. Going with an even more conservative candidate in '16 seems like madness to me. Those voters who favor political polarization are fewer and further between than 35 years ago.
 
gracepoole said:
? What worked for the GOP in '80 and '84 isn’t working today. That seems to be the primary problem. Going with an even more conservative candidate in '16 seems like madness to me. Those voters who favor political polarization are fewer and further between than 35 years ago.
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The GOP’s problem is that, at least perception-wise, they have some very conservative members who are totally unacceptable to a majority of Americans, and have some more “moderate” members who look like they don’t have any principles to most Americans. So they are really stuck with looking stupid or looking like politicians. Not a good combo.
 
gracepoole said:
? What worked for the GOP in '80 and '84 isn’t working today. That seems to be the primary problem. Going with an even more conservative candidate in '16 seems like madness to me. Those voters who favor political polarization are fewer and further between than 35 years ago.
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Do you think McCain and Romney were too conservative?? :eek:
 
CrossofChrist said:
The GOP’s problem is that, at least perception-wise, they have some very conservative members who are totally unacceptable to a majority of Americans, and have some more “moderate” members who look like they don’t have any principles to most Americans. So they are really stuck with looking stupid or looking like politicians. Not a good combo.
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I think the reason Bush was elected twice is because he was genuine. He may not have been as conservative as many would like, but you knew where he stood.
 
SaintAugustine said:
Do you think McCain and Romney were too conservative?? :eek:
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McCain had a series of missteps that spelled disaster for him (cough Palin cough). Romney? Yes. Immigration, same-sex marriage, his less than compassionate view of those who receive some form of public assistance – these are issues of political suicide. But let’s say he wasn’t “really” conservative. The majority of Americans still didn’t agree with his platform on these sample issues. How, then, would a candidate with even *more *conservative views win?
 
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