Paul Ryan and John Paul - Budgets and Encyclicals

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Abp Dolan: “The principles of Catholic social teaching contain truths that need to be applied,” the archbishop continued, noting the necessity of “prudential judgment” in applying these principles.
Archbishop Dolan wrote that he hoped the exchange of letters will be the beginning of an ongoing dialogue in service of the country and “the religious convictions that have always inspired sound citizenship and generous public service.”

Rep. Ryan said "it was incorrect for critics to say that the budget cuts taxes for the rich. In his view, it prevents tax increases on families and job creators.
He touted specific provisions of the bill such as the consolidation of government job training programs and the protection of Medicare from insolvency. Under the budget proposal, he said, Medicare would not change for current or near retirees. "
 
Please explain to me why every conservative budget cut except Ron Paul’s do not touch the military industrial complex? Do we need as many military bases overseas–especially in Europe? They will cut Medicare but not defense spending. I think that is not applying catholic social teaching appropriately. It seems to me Paul Ryan is selectively applying catholic social teaching where it agrees with the typical Republican platform of strong defense and limited government–which is not a bad platform in my opinion.
 
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Please explain to me why every conservative budget cut except Ron Paul’s do not touch the military industrial complex? Do we need as many military bases overseas–especially in Europe? They will cut Medicare but not defense spending. I think that is not applying catholic social teaching appropriately. It seems to me Paul Ryan is selectively applying catholic social teaching where it agrees with the typical Republican platform of strong defense and limited government–which is not a bad platform in my opinion.
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Please provide the page numbers in the approved House Budget that addresses military spending, and how you came to the conclusion that the Military Budget was not addressed.

As we all know, we can not work with sound bites from the biased secular media, or the opposing party.
Medicare cuts would have only been in the wasteful areas of the program, current retirees and those over 55 would not have been affected by recommended changes.
budget.house.gov/SettingtheRecordStraight/

budget.house.gov/fy2012budget/

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military%E2%80%93industrial_complex - - a link for the definition of ‘military industrial complex’ for another poster.
 
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[Please explain to me why every conservative budget cut except Ron Paul’s do not touch the military industrial complex?]

Let’s put this in context . What President Eisenhower said was , " A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment . Our arms must be mighty , ready for in- stant action , so that no potential agressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction . …
In the councils of government , we must guard against the acquisition of UNWARRANTED influence , whether sought or unsought , by the militaryindustrial complex . The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist . "

He is warning against " unwarranted " as opposed to prudent influence . He also warns against "misplaced " as opposed to just power .

Also, in his brief farewell to the nation , President Eisenhower warns against the following :
" …the free university , historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery , has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research . Partly because of the huge costs involved , A Government Contract Becomes Virtually A Substitute For Intellectual Curiousity . For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers .

The Prospect Of Domination Of The Nation’s Scholars By Federal Employment , Project Allocations And The Power Of Money Is Ever Present And Is Gravely To Be Regarded .
( And here is the money quote ! ) Yet IN Holding Scientific Research And Discovery In Respect , As We Should , We Must Also Be Alert To The Equal And Opposite Danger That Public Policy Could Itself Become The Captive Of A Scientifictechnological Elite . "

When was the last time you heard anyone invoke this farewell to to warn against the " scientictechnological elite/complex "? And why do you think that is ?
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Sam,

Last year (and for several years), total US military spending–that is, spending related to our military–was more than $1 trillion dollars. That’s $1,000,000,000,000: it includes our regular defense budget, the costs of caring for our veterans, and our nuclear weapons and research programs (in the Department of Energy, believe it or not) as well as any supplemental spending on our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You can look these numbers up quite easily on your own.

We are the largest producer, and seller of weapons in the world.

We spend more on our military than the rest of the world–including China–combined.

I am a veteran and a Paleocon; I believe in a strong defense for our nation, but this is out of control. When we talk about government bloating, waste, fraud, abuse, corruption, and the influence of corporations and lobbyists, we simply cannot leave out defense spending. Many good conservatives get uncomfortable around this topic; hats off to Ron Paul for taking it on. Even mentioning our defense spending problems gets one labelled liberal or unpatriotic, which is part of why people in Congress are unwilling to take it on.

Also–and to Pres. Eisenhower’s point–military spending has become so intertwined into our economy that it is an important job sector in many states. Unfortunately, the fruits of this job sector are the weapons of death and destruction: a necessary evil, but one we should prudently limit, in my opinion.
 
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