Paul Ryan!!

[rlg94086]

If so, shouldn’t we be concerned about Mormon holding the “highest” ranking office? It certainly does concern me!

And, how come no one is concerned about Romney and his faith?

Actually, yes. I do not support abortion but I do believe our president should at least believe in the One True God!!! The same One to whom the faith of this country was built. Would there be no concern if it were a Muslim running for the highest office in this land?

If Romney doesn’t pay his tithe’s he won’t get to become a god of his own planet one day!

A religious biggot?

 

[ComputerGeek25]

I also countered this fear-based falsehood about “Republicans becoming extreme right wing” a few pages back. I would direct CMatt to find that post. The only people who have drifted to extreme wings are the left wing liberals. Republicans moved to the middle following the leftward movement and abandoned their conservative principles. Now that they’re resetting to their previously held conservative views that are NOT AT ALL extreme, it is portrayed that way and the perception is skewed by how far LEFT the liberal Democrats have gone.

God bless.

-Paul

The Republicans today are basically where JFK was when he was elected.

I’d like to see CMatt25 read the actual proposals, instead of reading the trash on the Huffington Post that claim the sky is falling. Unless he’s actually read the Ryan plan, he probably shouldn’t comment on it…

 

[PJD1987]

I think people sometimes think they know another’s situation who might not be as financially well off as they might be or in the case of some of the young posters, as their families might be. Even though they are not walking in your shoes. May God continue to bless you and your family DeSanto.

I sincerely believe it was simply a misunderstanding of what posters were trying to say. No one is presuming anything here, we are trying to debate facts. The fact that others may take offense to perceived personal insults hardly means that that is what the poster meant. It is often hard to discern tone over the internet, and I just think the whole thing is a non-issue, especially given the point of the thread.

And it does not allow anyone to jump to conclusions about what others meant or put your perceived intention of their comment out there as a fact.

God bless.

-Paul

 

[ComputerGeek25]

I think people sometimes think they know another’s situation who might not be as financially well off as they might be or in the case of some of the young posters, as their families might be. Even though they are not walking in your shoes. May God continue to bless you and your family DeSanto.

What’s this supposed to mean?

If I was laid off today, the first thing I’d do is call and cancel my cable service, Netflix, etc. as these things are completely unnessary. Last I checked, these were not a right, and completely unneeded.

 

[rlg94086]

What’s this supposed to mean?

If I was laid off today, the first thing I’d do is call and cancel my cable service, Netflix, etc. as these things are completely unnessary. Last I checked, these were not a right, and completely unneeded.

You said nothing wrong or uncharitable. It is the first thing I did when I was laid off. We imposed our own “austerity program.” Don’t let the misperception of your comment as uncharitable worry you in the least. Some people take the most benign comments as personal affronts. Recommending someone cut back on frivolous expenditures to pay for essentials during tough times is just sound advice, not an insult.

 

[PJD1987]

You said nothing wrong or uncharitable. It is the first thing I did when I was laid off. We imposed our own “austerity program.” Don’t let the misperception of your comment as uncharitable worry you in the least. Some people take the most benign comments as personal affronts. Recommending someone cut back on frivolous expenditures to pay for essentials during tough times is just sound advice, not an insult.

Well said. I fear we are getting lost among the weeds here and painfully off topic, I suggest getting back on target

God bless.

-Paul

 

[rlg94086]

Well said. I fear we are getting lost among the weeds here and painfully off topic, I suggest getting back on target

God bless.

-Paul

True. The thread will be shut down soon anyway, since it is well over the 1k limit.

 

[CMatt25]

The thread is about Ryan, and you questioned Ryan’s acceptance of survivor’s benefits as somehow hypocritical. He is trying to save Medicare and is not proposing changes to Social Security. Being in favor of certain benefits from government does not mean that you have to favor “benefits of whatever kind.” That’s just plain lazy thinking!

He proposed cuts beyond Medicare which would hurt the poor. While continuing tax cuts for the rich and increasing defense spending. If that is yours and others on CAF or the your church’s idea of something good, then that’s what you believe. And that’s fine. But I just don’t and never will.

 

[PJD1987]

True. The thread will be shut down soon anyway, since it is well over the 1k limit.

Is there a way to continue the conversation? Is a brand new thread needed? Idk how that works…

God bless.

-Paul

 

[rlg94086]

Is there a way to continue the conversation? Is a brand new thread needed? Idk how that works…

God bless.

-Paul

Find a related news article and start a new thread. It is that simple…just make sure it’s actual news and not a blog or commentary.

 

[PJD1987]

Find a related news article and start a new thread. It is that simple…just make sure it’s actual news and not a blog or commentary.

townhall.com/tipsheet/elisabethmeinecke/2012/08/14/exclusive_paul_ryan_responds_to_catholic_budget_controversy

Would that count?

God bless.

-Paul

 

[CMatt25]

Is there a way to continue the conversation? Is a brand new thread needed? Idk how that works…

God bless.

-Paul

I’ve seen threads closed and another started. I won’t be coming along if so. What went on in these over 1050 posts was more than enough for me.

 

[PJD1987]

I’ve seen threads closed and another started. I won’t be coming along. What went on in these 1000 posts was more than enough for me.

Well that’s your prerogative. Thanks for informing us. I’m sorry you have such a low opinion of us.

God bless.

-Paul

 

[LisaA]

This is an extremely long thread so it may have already been touched upon. But I’ve heard Paul Ryan when his father died had the benefit of Social Security survivors benefits which helped him pay for college or what have you. With my father dying when I was a young child and my mother suddenly left with 2 minor children, I do know firsthand the importance of those benefits. So while I’ve never received any other government benefits or “entitlements” as people call them, I would certainly never propose such a budget as Mr Ryan knowing full well the help government can provide.

Strawman! So where in the Ryan budget has he dispensed with SS survivor’s benefits? Quit bringing up false issues to try to throw a wrench into the discussion.

Lisa

 

[LisaA]

Hearts are Hardened in this thread.

That DeSanto is the one thing you CANNOT judge.

People disagree with the methodology of assisting people in need. That does not mean people’s hearts are hardened against the poor. They might be hardened against the politicians who promote ineffective and expensive programs but not the needy.

Lisa

 

[rlg94086]

I’ve seen threads closed and another started. I won’t be coming along if so. What went on in these over 1050 posts was more than enough for me.

Translation: you still can’t come up with a decent argument to support your viewpoint.

 

[ComputerGeek25]

Strawman! So where in the Ryan budget has he dispensed with SS survivor’s benefits? Quit bringing up false issues to try to throw a wrench into the discussion.

Lisa

I’ve been asking him the same thing. He cannot come up with anything. Probably because he has not read the Ryan Budget. Instead, he has latched onto people saying the sky is falling

 

[LisaA]

He proposed cuts beyond Medicare which would hurt the poor. While continuing tax cuts for the rich and increasing defense spending. If that is yours and others on CAF or the your church’s idea of something good, then that’s what you believe. And that’s fine. But I just don’t and never will.

CMatt please quit posting false information!

A) OBAMA is cutting Medicare IMMEDIATELY by $700 BILLION. Who will that hurt…the rich? Romney’s plan does not cut Medicare for current seniors as does Obamacare.
B) Medicare at this point is not means tested so any changes in Medicare would not specifically target the poor. You are probably unaware of this CMatt but a doctor or hospital CANNOT accept more than Medicare allows. So a rich person cannot buy his way into better health care.
C) Tax cuts for the rich? Do tell…we don’t tax wealth in this country, we tax income. Many wealthy people through structuring their investments pay little in the way of taxes. Remember Theresa Heinz Kerry?
D) You have no evidence that anyone on CAF believes the poor should be ignored. We may not believe in ineffective federal programs but that is not the same.

Lisa

 

[Luigi_Daniele]

CMatt please quit posting false information!

A) OBAMA is cutting Medicare IMMEDIATELY by $700 BILLION. Who will that hurt…the rich? Romney’s plan does not cut Medicare for current seniors as does Obamacare.
B) Medicare at this point is not means tested so any changes in Medicare would not specifically target the poor. You are probably unaware of this CMatt but a doctor or hospital CANNOT accept more than Medicare allows. So a rich person cannot buy his way into better health care.
C) Tax cuts for the rich? Do tell…we don’t tax wealth in this country, we tax income. Many wealthy people through structuring their investments pay little in the way of taxes. Remember Theresa Heinz Kerry?
D) You have no evidence that anyone on CAF believes the poor should be ignored. We may not believe in ineffective federal programs but that is not the same.

Lisa

Lisa, a small correction: they can, if they go outside the system. Which is what happens in socialized medicine countries all the time (I have family that has done so).

To be clear: I am not saying that I do not agree with your post-I do. Agree with almost everything you post.

 

[meltzerboy]

Is privatizing it the same as cutting it? Privatizing is just correcting the moral failure of FDR to set up a sustainable system. In our current system we take from people who work and give to people who don’t work. That will last until working people get fed up.

The moral failure of FDR to set up a sustainable system? That system–Social Security and Medicare–has been sustainable for quite a number of years. Without FDR and his government programs to help people in need and put people back to work, who knows if our country would have even survived? If only we had leaders like Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt today!