Paul Ryan!!

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Rich_Olszewski said:
Don’t worry about the poor. Why should the GOP care about them? The GOP mantra is Matt 26:11, “The poor you will always have with you.” So, it doesn’t matter what cuts the GOP makes further empoverishing the poor. 🤷
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We spend over a trillion dollars a year on “the poor” and yet their plight seems to get no better, while politicians get more powerful and richer. Maybe we should stop looking at government to solve the problems of the poor and actually do what the Church teaches…get out there and care for them ourselves.

That is the mantra of the DNC…outsource your Christian duty to the State.
 
epan said:
Announcing the pick at this time was nothing more than a attempt to move the focus off of Romney’s refusal to disclose his tax records. Normally, the VP pick would be announced at the convention.

It is estimated that Ryan’s budget would push 900,000 more children into extreme poverty, while extending tax breaks to the 1 percent who own more than the bottom 90%.
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Who made the estimate? What is extreme poverty? I’ve seen the statistic on “poverty” in the US. Census Bureau announced that a record 46.2 million, or one in seven Americans, lived in poverty last year.

● Eighty percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

● Fully 92 percent of poor households have a microwave; two-thirds have at least one DVD player and 70 percent have a VCR.

● Nearly 75 percent have a car or truck; 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.

● Four out of five poor adults assert they were never hungry at any time in the prior year due to lack of money for food.

● Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite television.

● Half have a personal computer; one in seven have two or more computers.

● More than half of poor families with children have a video game system such as Xbox or PlayStation.

● Just under half — 43 percent — have Internet access.

● A third have a widescreen plasma or LCD TV.

● One in every four has a digital video recorder such as TiVo.

nationalreview.com/corner/277040/strange-facts-about-america-s-poor-robert-rector

My children wish they were poor.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Maybe we should stop looking at government to solve the problems of the poor and actually do what the Church teaches…get out there and care for them ourselves.
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A grand sentiment, but are we really getting out there and caring for the poor ourselves? Minimally, I think. By Dems and GOPers. Indifference to the poor is an equally shared vice. 😦
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
It would send a message that the GOP isn’t just the lily-white party.

Why not? We are not homogenous.
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We had Herman Cain and David Axelrod showed his tolerance of racial diversity by sabotaging his campaign. Imagine that, we had the chance to have an African American who authentically made a success of himself from the trenches of poverty through hard work, and it so confounded the Democrats message of dependence on the State that they assassinated his character through political plantings and tried to ruin his marriage to boot. That is the DNC Modus Operandi, when you can win by the merits of the arguement, destroy your opponent as viciously and ruthlessly as possible.
 
seekerz said:
Generalisations and more generalisations, a wacky example here and there…Like the 1950s didn’t have their own excesses? Please.
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Do tell seekerz…what excesses existed in the 1950s federal budget? I’m looking forward to hearing about $800000 parties (GSA) and million dollar interns, multibillion departments with objectives of getting us off foreign oil (Energy Dept). I’m quite sure you can Google the budget from 1955. It should be interesting.

Lisa
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
A grand sentiment, but are we really getting out there and caring for the poor ourselves? Minimally, I think. By Dems and GOPers. Indifference to the poor is an equally shared vice. 😦
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Speak for yourself. I do alot for the underprivileged.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
We had Herman Cain and David Axelrod showed his tolerance of racial diversity by sabotaging his campaign. Imagine that, we had the chance to have an African American who authentically made a success of himself from the trenches of poverty through hard work, and it so confounded the Democrats message of dependence on the State that they assassinated his character through political plantings and tried to ruin his marriage to boot.
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Was there no substance to the charges against him? Did he not contribute to his own downfall? I think there were and that he did.
 
SamH said:
Who made the estimate? What is extreme poverty? I’ve seen the statistic on “poverty” in the US. Census Bureau announced that a record 46.2 million, or one in seven Americans, lived in poverty last year.

● Eighty percent of poor households have air conditioning. By contrast, in 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.

● Fully 92 percent of poor households have a microwave; two-thirds have at least one DVD player and 70 percent have a VCR.

● Nearly 75 percent have a car or truck; 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.

● Four out of five poor adults assert they were never hungry at any time in the prior year due to lack of money for food.

● Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite television.

● Half have a personal computer; one in seven have two or more computers.

● More than half of poor families with children have a video game system such as Xbox or PlayStation.

● Just under half — 43 percent — have Internet access.

● A third have a widescreen plasma or LCD TV.

● One in every four has a digital video recorder such as TiVo.

nationalreview.com/corner/277040/strange-facts-about-america-s-poor-robert-rector

My children wish they were poor.
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The same “SKY IS FALLING” wails accompanied Welfare Reform in the 1990s. Didn’t happen. What DID happen is that people got off welfare in record numbers. Now Obama wants to gut the work requirement (might buy a few votes who knows!) which was the hallmark of the Clinton presidency.

These dire predictions tend to not come true but they do make great bumper stickers.

Lisa
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Was there no substance to the charges against him? Did he not contribute to his own downfall? I think there were and that he did.
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He and his wife are just fine and when was the last time, since he dropped his campaign, that you heard anything adverse about him? He is no longer a threat, so the Machine can effectively forget about him and move on to Romney and Ryan.

I am waiting for some grand revelation that Romney has a string of mistresses from Massachussets to Utah.
 
LisaA said:
The same “SKY IS FALLING” wails accompanied Welfare Reform in the 1990s. Didn’t happen. What DID happen is that people got off welfare in record numbers. Now Obama wants to gut the work requirement (might buy a few votes who knows!) which was the hallmark of the Clinton presidency.

These dire predictions tend to not come true but they do make great bumper stickers.

Lisa
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Obama and the Democrats so “love the poor” that they are trying to create millions more of them.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Speak for yourself. I do alot for the underprivileged.
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I don’t doubt it at all. I myself support, not just contribute to the support of, several Catholic families in Kerala State, India; help elderly Navahos and poor Lakota Sioux in the Dakotas, and contribute to the Near East missions, which are particularly dear to me.

But, this is not a matter of how wide is your wallet or how deep your pockets in comparison to mine. You may well be a greater supporter of the poor than I. My use of “we” was not meant to refer only to you and me personally. 🙂
 
PJD1987 said:
…I’d also be remiss if I didn’t state that one should not get make the mistake of getting too caught up in this Ryan-Wyden Budget proposal and forget the fundamentally more important issue at stake here which is the right to life issue that arises from the fact that we have the most anti-life, pro-abortion, anti-Catholic/religion president/candidate in living memory on the ballot in Barack Obama. . . .
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Reading through all the posts here, it does seem that there are a lot of arguments about side issues, and yet this is the issue that will not go away. We now have an administration which favors a great many moral evils adamantly opposed by Catholic morality, incluing abortion and gay marriage. The administration’s advocacy of gay marriage has now stirred up opposition even among many black voters including a group of black pastors. And it’s assault on religious freedom has stirred opposition among Evangelicals as well as Catholics. A second term for Obama will mean even graver threats to freedom of religion. I at least expect a Romney / Ryan ticket to be more acceptable on life and religious freedom issues.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
A grand sentiment, but are we really getting out there and caring for the poor ourselves? Minimally, I think. By Dems and GOPers. Indifference to the poor is an equally shared vice. 😦
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Yes, there are those out there helping to at least feed the poor. I saw a photo of a member of a religious order pushing a cart filled with food through downtown Detroit. There are Churches with food pantries, and the Capuchin Soup Kitchen in Detroit. On the front of their envelope, it reads: “Anyone wanting a meal is fed, no questions asked, no judgments made.”

The current Socialist, Obama government wants more people on food stamps:

money.cnn.com/2012/06/25/news/economy/food-stamps-ads/index.htm

What people really need is jobs. More jobs means more spending, more tax revenue and more donations to the poor. It would raise “consumer confidence.”

Peace,
Ed
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
I don’t doubt it at all. I myself support, not just contribute to the support of, several Catholic families in Kerala State, India; help elderly Navahos and poor Lakota Sioux in the Dakotas, and contribute to the Near East missions, which are particularly dear to me.

But, this is not a matter of how wide is your wallet or how deep your pockets in comparison to mine. You may well be a greater supporter of the poor than I. My use of “we” was not meant to refer only to you and me personally. 🙂
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But that is our call as Christians. It is a personal one that cannot be outsourced to the government. I think that maybe that is the crux of the problem. Too many in our country equate “society” with “government”.
 
It may offer some help with the tea party and the more right leaning independents, though in the end they would likely be voting for the Republican ticket anyway. May pull enough of the Paulian protest votes onto the GOP ticket to push him over the edge. It’s not going to do anything one way or another for people who are on the left, or left leaning independents who would be voting for Obama no matter what. If there are any people honestly and truly “on the bubble”, (which I don’t think is very common in reality), this is a good pick if they have some leanings towards the right socially or fiscally.

It’s still going to come down to a few electoral votes in one state like Florida or Ohio. It’s gonna be a squeaker. But with Mitt’s perception in the public eye of being too far left to represent the GOP, this should help. In the end, it’s the Presidential candidates that people vote for.

Gotta say though…this will be the most fun VP debate in memory 😉
 
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