Pedophilia In The Church

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I’m being hounded on Twitter that the Catholic Church isn’t doing enough to get rid of pedophilia within the church. Is this true? If not, then could you point me to some sources as to what they are doing to stop this in the church?

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There are massive policies in place by the USCCB
In every parish, every Diocese
So much so, it has often crippled youth ministry. No one can give rides like they used to.
No one can counsel a child or teen without others present
Priests have to housed separately on retreats
When taking students someone, there has to be a minimum of 2 adults per car.
Cameras everywhere in churches and school buildings
Extensive volunteer, clergy and employee screening.
Mandatory training on the recognition and prevention of abuse (of all sorts)
Mandatory reporting at every level

THe list goes on.
 
I would recommend the series “The Keepers” on Netflix, it really exposes just how vile and bad coverups were in the past, which obviously led to current policy.
 
That’s likely the reason he’s being hounded.
 
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Twitter?

Yeah, that’s one of their go-to cards. Guess they’ve got it as long as pedophilia is uncool, and who knows how long that will last. For some people, what is done by the Church is never enough.

Our seminarians undergo extensive psychological evaluation.
 
That and they probably have no substantive argument for whatever it is they are discussing.
 
Are sodomist priests being defrocked?

Then no, we’re not doing enough.
 
What can the Church do before it believes someone is guilty?

The whole things revolves around this… The church paid off some folks (settled) who accused priests. These could have turned into Civil Suits if not settled. Civil Suits are expensive.

Just b/c a settlement was made does not mean the Bishop or authority believed the priest was guilty.

Now the media wants to hound on this. Most folks are not attorneys and fall victim to all this b/c they don’t understand the legal process. They now believe in all this mass cover up.

The media’s latest one is this guy in NY who was in the movie business. There were allegations against him and he settled. The NY police investigated, and the investigation left to a lack of belief that he was guilty. So, they did not arrest him. But now, everyone believes he is guilty b/c of the media and their own lack of understanding of the legal process. And the media will continue with their interviews of people who say they are victims and will magnify the issue for the sake of a story and/or promoting some type of movement in Hollywood.

And, I think it was Newsweek that reported that the percentage of U.S. priests ACCUSED is lower than the percentage of male adults CONVICTED.

It’s amazing how the Media influences the mind of America and influences what people talk about at the coffee shop.
 
The leadership of the Catholic League can educate you on the main issue. His comments pertain to the fact that some cases are homosexuality and not paedophelia, but the cases are grouped together because they are regarded as “Catholic Church scandals.”

Some choose to defend the innocent before condemning the guilty among mankind. That is a Christian concept. However, others enjoy being the instigators of punishment and do not even consider using reason nor to they even believe in a fair trial.

Hopefully one day the mess will be resolved. The size of the Church generates high numbers. There are other employers I respect due to also being Patrons of St. Michael that are hit hard with the exception of one because they commit murder openly at times and only really they themselves see the Patronage.

I’m sure St. Michael will handle the messes we see. Sadly, the Catholic Church ministers to all ages and all offenses elsewhere which could occur don’t happen. Rather, it is a good thing, but not for the sake of comparison in defending the Church to humanity.

What should be known though is that we are dangerously strong, make no mistake. Even during all this, Roman Catholic Churches still cheer on LGBT participation. Who is tougher than that? We have a “we won’t stop” attitude that most would kill for.
 
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And, I think it was Newsweek that reported that the percentage of U.S. priests ACCUSED is lower than the percentage of male adults CONVICTED.
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And I believe it was cited that a child is eight times more likely to be abused by a public school teacher than a Catholic priest.

The only reason PS teachers are not sued and the issue only appears once in a newspaper and then disappears is that all public school systems have a limitation on damages. I believe I read that it averages one hundred fifty thousand dollars. That isn’t enough for the lawyers to waste their time. Civil prosecution is another matter but it is hushed up for fear of vilifying public schools and the teachers unions.
 
The Church is doing far too little far too late in this issue. It is a permanent black mark on the Church that Catholics just have to live with. Trying to prove that Chruch is doing enough is a waste if people are not really looking for an answer as to what the Church is doing versus just wanting to harp on the issue and hound one endlessly. So if you can determine if the hounder is actually looking for solid facts , that is extremely easy to find on ones own. But if the hounder is just looking to twist your screws for a while, then you wont be able to put an end to it unless you just ignore the person after you have stated what is already out there.

And until all past even if criminal statue of limitations are gone, or present: Cardinals, Bishops, Priests, religious are defrocked for any kind of interferance or sweeping complaints under the rug hoping it just disapears, or for any kind of complicantance in the issue,

It would be better if the Catholic Church only had a handful of the forementioned than 1 or too many sex offenders / criminals in its ranks.
 
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We’ve got a case in our area now.

The arrest of the priest on charges of child porn were broadcast on front page.

There are issues in the public record of the case. It appears there was lack of due process on behalf of the police. The trial date has now been delayed. It’ll be interesting.

Yet, the damage to the Church’s reputation has been done. And the Newspapers, which are no longer locally owned, have not reported on the alleged abuses of power of the police department.
 
Here’s what I believe. The child porn was placed on his computer by someone other than himself in part of what is called a “sting”, which is nothing more than entrapment, which some believe to be credible under the 5th ammendment. If he knew of the child porn on his computer, he didn’t make a hard police report. Rather, he took the computer to BestBuy for them to check out a problem with the computer (knowing that he was innocent). He is also a very intelligent person and is aware of hacking as well of his lack of intricate knowledge of computer hardware and software. BestBuy reported it to the police. The police arrested him.

He was basically doing an investigation to obtain more information so to appeal to his conscience and to better ascertain the events that had occurred. He then, after giving it more thought, would probably have gone to the police department to file a report. The police “hawks” or “gestapo” didn’t have patience with him. Two or more police agencies may have been involved and one didn’t communicate the entrapment to the other. It was probably a Federal sting to see how the State Police would react and/or how the Priest would react.

The priest probably won’t be convicted, and the case will never go before a jury. But, the damage will remain to the Church.
 
sthwaitesgd said:
I’m being hounded on Twitter that the Catholic Church isn’t doing enough to get rid of pedophilia within the church. Is this true? If not, then could you point me to some sources as to what they are doing to stop this in the church?

God Bless!
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What country are you in?
 
yes, all kinds of background checks are done before non-priests can go into a parish to work with people, but what is being done about the clergy who are being shuffled around after they get caught doing nasty stuff? at most they are sent to a new parish where they are free to do their “work” there.
 
TGScout said:
yes, all kinds of background checks are done before non-priests can go into a parish to work with people, but what is being done about the clergy who are being shuffled around after they get caught doing nasty stuff? at most they are sent to a new parish where they are free to do their “work” there.
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I’m directing this at you, but also to the people bothering the original poster as well.

I’m in Ontario, Canada. Grew up in a small town, everyone knows everyone misc etc. My father was a high school teacher at a public school, I attended another school nearby. I had teachers at my high school ask me why I didn’t talk to him, they told me he was a good man. Again, it’s a small town, everyone knew everyone. He was quite well-known, popular among his peers.

He didn’t lose his job when we took him to court for beating me. He sexually harassed female students, nothing happened. Divorcing twice and married a third time, with each woman being young while he increased in age? No one batted an eye. Accusations and charges of sexual assault? I believe he was suspended with pay.

He finally lost his job when he was found guilty of raping his third wife.

The stats show educators have a high rate of abuse, Charol Shakeshaft has been tireless in her efforts to shed light on this. Yet somehow, no one seems to care. No one ever brings up educators in these discussions.

When speaking about abuse of any kind, if only the church is mentioned with such vehemence, it shows an incredible and clear bias. You’re perpetuating the abuse.

Stop exploiting abuse victims to suit your agenda. We deserve better than that.
 
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Are you really going with the old “All homosexuals are pedophiles” argument? Literally every statistic on this topic have confirmed that homosexuals are not more likely to molest children than heterosexuals.
 
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I feel it is worth mentioning that child-molestation is not unique to Catholic Clergy, nor is it more prevalent in Catholic Clergy. This type of crime is committed just as frequently by clergy of every other religious group, whether protestant or buddhist or anything else. And in all cases the number of offending clerics is usually less than 1%.

It’s still a terrible thing, but let’s not act like it’s uniquely catholic.
 
Pope Benedict apparently defrocked over 400 priests guilty of sexual crimes. He did so quietly.
 
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Are sodomist priests being defrocked?
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Are you referring to child abuse /pedophiles? Certainly, there are cases of defrocking. I heard an Archbishop explaining the implications of defrocking/dismissing seriously errant priests. Where are they to go, how will they be supervised, etc. it seems there are some cases where not defrocking and thus maintaining some control in tightly supervised arrangements can be the better choice.
 
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