Pelosi's judgment questioned over Armenia issue

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Rep. Pelosi, Speaker of the House and Catholic grandmother, can jump on the high moral ground by taking a “brave” stand against a century-old genocide, but not against abortion here and now.

All together now: :rolleyes:

– Mark L. Chance.
I’m surprised you didn’t put Catholic in quotation marks.
 
I’m trying to avoid that. I’ll let God put Catholic in quotation marks where necessary.

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– Mark L. Chance.
Better yet why doesn’t her Bishop admonish her about her outspoken opposition to many of the core teachings of the Catholic Church?
 
Better yet why doesn’t her Bishop admonish her about her outspoken opposition to many of the core teachings of the Catholic Church?
that’s a good question, and one that could be posed about many nominally catholic politicians.

is it possible the bishop has intervened in a private manner, but his advice has not been heeded? or that the bishop does not want to rankle a powerful parishioner within his diocese?
 
that’s a good question, and one that could be posed about many nominally catholic politicians.

is it possible the bishop has intervened in a private manner, but his advice has not been heeded? or that the bishop does not want to rankle a powerful parishioner within his diocese?
Tomarin, we ask this question all the time, about a variety of Catholic politicians. We never get an answer. 🤷
 
that’s a good question, and one that could be posed about many nominally catholic politicians.

is it possible the bishop has intervened in a private manner, but his advice has not been heeded? or that the bishop does not want to rankle a powerful parishioner within his diocese?
I suspect its the latter because because if it was the former he would not be giving her communion.
 
Not to put too fine a point on it, but maybe it’s none of our business?

– Mark L. Chance.
i don’t agree. when people flaunt the spiritual authority of the church and yet use their affiliation with catholicism to win votes, it is everybody’s business.

if they aren’t making a good faith effort to follow catholic teaching, they should stop calling themselves catholics. it’s in the interest of honesty. it also does great damage to other catholics who see these prominent so-called catholics dismissing the authority of the church.
 
Not to put too fine a point on it, but maybe it’s none of our business?

– Mark L. Chance.
But it is our business. We are Catholic, so is she. But the ordinary Catholic might be refused communion for what she advocates every day. That’s a double standard.

If we are to begin a letter writing campaign, we probably need to start writing to the Vatican.

But this has strayed WAY off-topic now, and I apologize for my part in it. Lets get back on topic without being told to.

We have no business making resolutions about events of nearly 100 years ago, especially if it can potentially harm people living today. Period.
 
i don’t agree. when people flaunt the spiritual authority of the church and yet use their affiliation with catholicism to win votes, it is everybody’s business.
Then don’t vote them. I certainly wouldn’t. But what is said between them and their pastors is indeed none of our business. The bottom line is this: No one here knows what, if anything, has been said between Rep. Pelosi and her bishop. Everything is speculation, which has a nasty way of quickly becoming gossip and calumny.

Perhaps I’m being unreasonable in demurring from breaking the Eighth Commandment speaking about things of which I have no knowledge. There’s plenty on the public record to justify voting Rep. Pelosi out of office yesterday if not sooner.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Not to put too fine a point on it, but maybe it’s none of our business?

– Mark L. Chance.
Don’t you think we should be concerned when a prominent Catholic continually disputes the teachings of the Church? If they go unanswered does that not indicate tactic consent?
 
Then don’t vote them. I certainly wouldn’t. But what is said between them and their pastors is indeed none of our business. The bottom line is this: No one here knows what, if anything, has been said between Rep. Pelosi and her bishop. Everything is speculation, which has a nasty way of quickly becoming gossip and calumny.

Perhaps I’m being unreasonable in demurring from breaking the Eighth Commandment speaking about things of which I have no knowledge. There’s plenty on the public record to justify voting Rep. Pelosi out of office yesterday if not sooner.

– Mark L. Chance.
But we all know what she speaks in public. And what she speaks in public is often IN contradiction with the teachings of the church she belongs to. That must be pointed out-if the bishops won’t do it than we need to.
 
But we all know what she speaks in public. And what she speaks in public is often IN contradiction with the teachings of the church she belongs to. That must be pointed out-if the bishops won’t do it than we need to.
Admittedly. But needlessly (and perhaps inaccurately) speculating about conversations and motives isn’t prudent. It detracts from the actual issues. Like I said, Rep. Pelosi should be voted out of office ASAP is not sooner. This would be true no matter what her religious affiliation.

After all, abortion is not a religious issue. It is a human rights issue that even a diehard liberal like Nat Hentoff rightly objects to on purely secular grounds.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
It was a question. For some people, the answer to the question would be yes. For you, it would appear that the answer is no, and so you are embarrassed. That you are embarrassed is not my fault, nor is it uncharitable on my part. I asked a question.

On the other hand, your calling Cheney and Podhoretz names is uncharitable.
Who are you to say that I am embarassed? Do you know me, have you ever met me? Have you spoken with anyone who knows me well enough to say if anything **ever **embarasses me?

You are presumptuous in the extreme.
 
Admittedly. But needlessly (and perhaps inaccurately) speculating about conversations and motives isn’t prudent. It detracts from the actual issues. Like I said, Rep. Pelosi should be voted out of office ASAP is not sooner. This would be true no matter what her religious affiliation.

After all, abortion is not a religious issue. It is a human rights issue that even a diehard liberal like Nat Hentoff rightly objects to on purely secular grounds.

– Mark L. Chance.
Whatis all this about speculating about conversations??? We all know what she says in public. And what she says in public is in direct contradiction of what the church she claims to belong to teaches.
 
Like I said, Rep. Pelosi should be voted out of office ASAP is not sooner.
That is solely up to her constituency. There are districts that have elected far-leftists and there are districts who put extreme right-wingers into Congress. It’s their choice as to whom they elect.
 
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