It makes sense then, since I’m a lowly woman. It might make more sense if we were actually discussing same-sex attraction to adults, but since we’re not…my poor brain is just awash with confusion. Oh, my. What’s a gal to do?
The change in criteria for discernment was only released in 2005.
In the meantime, the Church can’t (and shouldn’t) just kick out any priest who may have deep-seated same sex attractions. Only those who act on them should be disciplined. Our vigilance regarding the safety precautions most diocese have put into place is important to protect our children from the possibility of someone being a sexual predator. This is equally true of other activities our children participate in - school, scouting, sports, etc. Such is the world we live in. It is the practical approach, rather than asking silly questions like “would you let a sex offender who has a preference for boys babysit your daughter…”
Silly is making excuses and impractical distinctions that cloud the problem of sexual predators. As you say, vigilance is the key: for all children and all activities. We can’t very well place our children in neat little cubby holes that correspond to predators’ proclivities. Which is why this hyper-categorization is useless in the real world, except perhaps for therapists.
If you find anyone making excuses or impractical distinctions, let me know.
I’ll paraphrase in my own literary style, so please allow me some poetic license:
The three parishes that he was pastor of between 2000-2004 were rural parishes. He would have to drive from one church to the next to say mass every Sunday. One of those parishes was the one my family attended when we were in the area. That is how we got to know him. The congregation really liked him, but I remember him looking very worn out by the time he left.
Nope…that isn’t an excuse for anyone. Just a recognition of the actual event. Also, I don’t remember reading any post that said they weren’t sure if the priest was guilty.
Nope…not an excuse, and not an impractical distinction, as evidenced by the Vatican’s change in discernment rules regarding homosexuals after the sex scandals. Charming “poetic license” though…you really have a talent for insulting. It should be your second career.
No idea where you got that one from, but again, it is not an excuse or an impractical distinction.
Again, you are skilled. I will give you that. But, again, no one has used this as an excuse, nor is it an impractical distinction.
I’ve never lived in a rural area like that, but that sounds very tiring for a priest. I join you in hoping and praying that he didn’t do anything to any of the children of the parishes he pastored.
Yes, the two pastors before that also left for health reasons, I believe. I remembered them coming in all full of excitement and then leaving completely tired and aged. It’s mostly farming community. The parish we attended was on a dirt road, that’s how rural it is out there. But that church used to be packed on Sundays before it closed. When I was old enough I’d sometimes walk to church in my boots or sneakers either through the woods and fields, or on the road and then change into my nice shoes when I got to the church. it was also open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week and I would always make it part of my hike over the mountain in my family’s property, stopping in for a prayer in pure, beautiful silence, walking through the cemetery, then making my way back home via before dinner.
I’m surprised they don’t make use of the Permanent Diaconate to at least let the priests rotate Sundays and have Communion Services on the Sundays he isn’t there. That’s what they do in Africa, according to a couple of priests we have had. I realize it’s not ideal, but it seems like it would work - Mass and a few days of pastoral service at each location before moving on to the next.
Well, they’ve closed the two parishes when the previous bishop did a lot of parish closures in the diocese. I don’t know how they work it out now because I think the current pastor still says mass at one other church besides his parish. I never really get the chance to attend mass there because I’m usually working weekends and can’t get away with the rest of the family. There was always just one priest for as long as my family has been going there, though. For a while before they closed our parish, they had Franciscans come in from the monastery to say mass, but that couldn’t last forever. This pastor is the lone priest, but what I did notice the last time I was there, they had a deacon assist in the mass.
It’s an important topic, even though it is off-topic. The closest I’ve been to the situation is the previous parish I attended, where our priest also said Mass for a small parish 45 minutes away. We were fortunate enough to have priests from a local Catholic university help at both parishes, and they had a permanent deacon at the remote parish.
He was certainly complicit in the act. Either he placed an ad on Craigslist looking for this encounter, or he answered an ad for this encounter
Do you only read your posts and mine? Someone here even tried to make the kid an ADULT. Seriously, I read and post devoid of any ideological biases that hark back to the Middle Ages. I would recommend the same to all.Nope…that isn’t an excuse for anyone. Just a recognition of the actual event. Also, I don’t remember reading any post that said they weren’t sure if the priest was guilty.
Nope…not an excuse, and not an impractical distinction, as evidenced by the Vatican’s change in discernment rules regarding homosexuals after the sex scandals. Charming “poetic license” though…you really have a talent for insulting. It should be your second career.
No idea where you got that one from, but again, it is not an excuse or an impractical distinction.
Again, you are skilled. I will give you that. But, again, no one has used this as an excuse, nor is it an impractical distinction.
I give you an B+ for creative insulting, but a D- on actually finding anyone who has tried to excuse the priest (there have been absolutely zero posters who have done so) or make impractical distinctions.
Have a great evening.
Marijuana sale! Hey St Augustine, are your checking out this post? Selling marijuana is apparently an apt analogy for this allleged crime.
He is the victim, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t complicit. You are getting confused again. It is a better analogy than your complaint against the Jay report, by referring to your doctor’s license.
He was complicit in zilch because you don’t have all the facts. Neither you nor I have heard the kid’s side, unless I have been remiss in my perusals.He is the victim, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t complicit. You are getting confused again. It is a better analogy than your complaint against the Jay report, by referring to your doctor’s license.
Of course, the padre’s guilt is totally dependent on what comes out at trial but we just KNOW those crafty little boys are complicit in whatever, when they’re accused…I complained about nothing, merely pointed out the facts. A proper ‘study’ can stand up to peer scrutiny; it might actually invite further study. An investigation, well, it’s better than nothing, but it should be confused with reliable scholarly research.He is the victim, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t complicit. You are getting confused again. It is a better analogy than your complaint against the Jay report, by referring to your doctor’s license.
Would you please stop this ridiculousness? All the discussion of complicity is based on reported news and contingent on the veracity of that news. That is always the case.