Perfume Created For Pope Benedict XVI

[JimR-OCDS]

Well the Pope lives at the Vatican. You know JimR, if we sold it we could feed a lot of poor with that money. I’m sure guys like Bill Gates would buy up much of that Vatican art. Lots of money could be made.

Maybe your parishioners should help pay for your parish, u know. And if they can’t afford one, travel to a nearby one.

What does my parish have to do with the topic of this thread?

I beleive you’re missing the point here.

Jim

 

[karaleigh]

I got a gift of a rosary that was scented with the personal burning oils at the Vatican…the rosary smells wonderful!

My guess concerning the Pope’s designer perfume is that His Eminence will wear it up on the balcony, and we’ll have to pray for a down wind. God bless the Pope!

 

[martinah]

Austerity measures? Well the Pope just helped create work for some people by requesting this cologne. A newspaper sold more copies because of this story. This is all work.
It stimulated the economy.

The Church has preached against materialism and it is materialism and greed of governments, individuals and corporations - such as Goldman Sachs or Lehman Brothers which led to this mess.

The man’s whole life is devoted to God. He uses a perfume and it shows he is human and not someone the common man cannot relate to. Come on… Again I support the Holy Father in this. Good for him. And as for the haters, haters will always hate.

Point 1-The numbers of jobs created will not equal the number of newspapers this poorly timed headline will sell.

Point 2-I agree that greed caused the crisis. I never said it made him appear someone the “common” man can’t relate to. I enjoy perfume myself (not customized perfume), but still I do enjoy the small luxuries and don’t begrudge the pope a few luxuries too. I just expect him to be smarter than this from a PR view.

 

[martinah]

i got a gift of a rosary that was scented with the personal burning oils at the vatican…the rosary smells wonderful!

My guess concerning the pope’s designer perfume is that his eminence will wear it up on the balcony, and we’ll have to pray for a down wind. God bless the pope!

lol!

 

[kmuestwin]

I don’t see how this affects anything at all.

It looks like people want to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

 

[Sam_777]

Islamic TV channels are now using that against the Catholic Church…

 

[karaleigh]

Islam. They love perfume. While my husband was in the military he taught at the Air Force Academy. Hundreds of Muslims from around the world went to Texas to learn to fly fighter jets. Every single one of them would wear cologne if they could get their hands on a bottle. Sprit…sprit… Good for you Pope Benedict!
:coffeeread:

 

[Beautiful]

Cologne is not only used directly on the body for others to smell, but is used on things like sheets and linens, towels, furniture, in bathwater, etc. because the person themselves like the smell. Why does everyone assume that the pope buying cologne equals the pope trying to get scandalous attention by giving off an attractive smell? Would it be horrible if he had candles burning in his rooms of which he liked the smell? He’s pope, but that doesn’t mean he’s allowed no pleasure in anything.

Good thoughts…
I have bought candles from this website many times… hisessence.com/
If Pope Benedict’s personally chosen scent was made available, I’d buy that too. I bet is wonderfully fragrant.

 

[JReducation]

There is nothing scandalous in the article.

Let’s look at this closely. Do secular Catholic men wear scent of some kind or another?

Yes. Many do wear after shave, cologne or some kind of bath oil, whatever. I don’t buy the stuff. I just see it at Walgreen’s.

Next, is this pope a secular Catholic man?

Yes, he is. He is not a consecrated religious. He was a diocesan priest. Prior to working at the Sacred Congregation for the Faith, he spent most of his time in a suit, shirt and tie, because that’s how theology professors in Europe dress, be they clergy, religious or lay. It’s kind of a standard “Nerd” look.

Let the man wear what he wants to wear. Why do other secular Catholic men get to choose and the secular clergy get restricted as if they were religious? They are not religious. They should not be expected to act the part. It’s being unreasonable to them. Next, we’ll be telling the pope what kind of car he can drive or what kind of suit he can wear.

The man is not a Franciscan, with a strict vow of poverty. He has never made a vow of poverty.

He is not a Cistercian monk who lives his life separated from the world. He has never lived that way. Prior to becoming pope he spent evenings in restaurants around Rome, at the theater, the opera, concerts, lecture, art galleries or sharing a beer with friends. He was part of the world around him.

He is not a Carmelite with a vocation to the contemplative life. His life of prayer has always been his to govern and manage according to his personality, not structured like that of a Carmelite.

He was never a Jesuit with a missionary vocation. He spent most of his life in a classroom or in administration.

There is nothing “religious” about this man. It is not reasonable to try to pigeon hole him into the religious mode.

Finally, the article does not say that he requested this or is paying for it. Even if he is, heck he gets no salary. He’s the only bishop in the world who works for free. Every other bishop has room, board, insurance, retirement benefits, social security, an expense account and a salary, albeit a modest one compared to other CEOs. It’s only a five figure salary. The pope has none of the above. If he abdicates tomorrow, the only thing he has is whatever money he may have saved over the years and the home that he and his brother own in Bavaria. He has a lot less than the average Catholic. He doesn’t even own the furniture in his apartment.

Let him smell nice.

Fraternally,

Br.JR, OSF

 

[pepipop]

Finally, the article does not say that he requested this or is paying for it. Even if he is, heck he gets no salary. He’s the only bishop in the world who works for free. Every other bishop has room, board, insurance, retirement benefits, social security, an expense account and a salary, albeit a modest one compared to other CEOs. It’s only a five figure salary. The pope has none of the above. If he abdicates tomorrow, the only thing he has is whatever money he may have saved over the years and the home that he and his brother own in Bavaria. He has a lot less than the average Catholic. He doesn’t even own the furniture in his apartment.

Let him smell nice.

Fraternally,

Br.JR, OSF

Was just about to make the same point. The perfumiere (sp) most likely approached the vatican to request to make the scent, and the vatican agreed. She now has great PR coverage for her business .I doubt the Pope, or any person in their 80’s, would at that time of their life decide they ‘all of a sudden’ want to have a ‘personal’ scent made. It’ll be the usual media ‘spin doctoring’ and business for the person making it.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Finally, the article does not say that he requested this or is paying for it. Even if he is, heck he gets no salary. He’s the only bishop in the world who works for free. Every other bishop has room, board, insurance, retirement benefits, social security, an expense account and a salary, albeit a modest one compared to other CEOs. It’s only a five figure salary. The pope has none of the above. If he abdicates tomorrow, the only thing he has is whatever money he may have saved over the years and the home that he and his brother own in Bavaria. He has a lot less than the average Catholic. He doesn’t even own the furniture in his apartment.

Let him smell nice.

Fraternally,

Br.JR, OSF

Actually the Pope has everything every other Bishop has plus more. He has room and board in a plush Papal residency. He is fed by the finest chefs and has full maid and butler service. This along with the best medical care money can buy, and anything the Pope wants, he gets.

This doesn’t count the gifts he gets, which the perfume may in fact be a gift, but it’s just smells fishy. Pun intended.

Also, he doesn’t have to retire at age 75 as Bishops do.

Jim

 

[JReducation]

Actually the Pope has everything every other Bishop has plus more. He has room and board in a plush Papal residency. He is fed by the finest chefs and has full maid and butler service. This along with the best medical care money can buy, and anything the Pope wants, he gets.

This doesn’t count the gifts he gets, which the perfume may in fact be a gift, but it’s just smells fishy. Pun intended.

Also, he doesn’t have to retire at age 75 as Bishops do.

Jim

Actually, he does not. He lives in an apartment of the Apostolic Palace. It’s not more plush than any home for any other bishop. There are no maids and butlers. There is a team of sisters who do the cooking and housekeeping, just like other rectories have cooks and housekeepers. The apartment houses five people. It’s actually smaller than that of the President of the USA. If he abdicates, nothing in it belongs to him and he leaves office with no benefits, unlike other bishops who take their benefits with them. He is paid no salary. If he leaves office, he has not assets, other than those that he had before he became pope. If he is a religious, he does not have any assets, because they belong to his community.

He does not have the finest chefs. The sisters who do the cooking for him are the same German sisters that cooked form him when he was Archbishop and later Prefect for the SCDF.

Do not confuse the papal household with the Vatican. They are not the same thing. The Vatican does have a team of chefs and servants. That staff and those spaces are only used for state functions, not for the private use of the pope and his family and friends.

Since you’re a Carmelite, I strongly suggest that you go back to Teresa and John of the Cross and carefully observe their prudence, discretion and reverence in speaking about the Pontiff.

Whether we’re Carmelite, Franciscan, Dominican or other, we must be true to our founders and imitate their attitude and their vision of the papacy. It’s part of our heritage.

Fraternally,

Br.JR, OSF

 

[JMJSHJ]

I don’t see the problem either as Brother JR has clearly demonstrated.

Furthermore a good tag line for this product could be:

“Infused with the odor of sanctity”!!!

:extrahappy::extrahappy:

 

[JReducation]

I don’t see the problem either as Brother JR has clearly demonstrated.

Furthermore a good tag line for this product could be:

"Infused with the odor of sanctity"!!!

:extrahappy::extrahappy:

This reminds me of something. In our constitutions of 1529, which were in effect until 1970, the brothers were allowed to bathe on Saturdays and to wash the habit once per month.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF

 

[CatholicFireman]

This reminds me of something. In our constitutions of 1529, which were in effect until 1970, the brothers were allowed to bathe on Saturdays and to wash the habit once per month.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF

I’m going to kiss my wife when she get home. Oh you said 1970…not 1980 (when I was discerning).

Ah, I’ll kiss her anyway.

Happy Feast of St. Joseph to you all.

 

[JReducation]

We certainly had an ordor of sanctity.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF

 

[CatholicFireman]

We certainly had an ordor of sanctity.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF

Ah, spirituality of the soul via the nostrals…

 

[JimR-OCDS]

JReducation;

Actually, he does not. He lives in an apartment of the Apostolic Palace. It’s not more plush than any home for any other bishop. There are no maids and butlers.

Yes there are maids and butlers, usually nuns and priest assists the Pope.

Also, remember the maid who claimed Pope John Paul II practiced self-flagellation, because she thought that’s what she heard from his bed-room ? So not all are nuns apparently.

Also, having seen documentaries on the Pope’s residency, it’s plush.

Now, Cardinal O’Malley of the Archdiocese of Boston, he lives in an ordinary apartment in South Boston. But he’s a Franciscan.

There is a team of sisters who do the cooking and housekeeping, just like other rectories have cooks and housekeepers.

Oh, so because a team of sisters do the housekeeping, and BTW, he does have a private chef, that’s different than having maid service?

The apartment houses five people. It’s actually smaller than that of the President of the USA.

The Pope’s apartment is on the top floor of the Apostolic Palace.

The papal apartment has seven large rooms plus a private chapel, a roof garden and staff quarters for the German Benedictine nuns who now keep house for Benedict. news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4539613.stm

If he abdicates, nothing in it belongs to him and he leaves office with no benefits, unlike other bishops who take their benefits with them. He is paid no salary. If he leaves office, he has not assets, other than those that he had before he became pope. If he is a religious, he does not have any assets, because they belong to his community.

He doesn’t require a salary, because he gets whatever he wants.

He does not have the finest chefs.
The sisters who do the cooking for him are the same German sisters that cooked form him when he was Archbishop and later Prefect for the SCDF.

OK, but when he travels, he dines in the finest style, including famous chefs.
seriouseats.com/2008/04/lidia-bastianich-cooking-for-pope-benedict-xvi-the-menu-revealed.html

Do not confuse the papal household with the Vatican. They are not the same thing. The Vatican does have a team of chefs and servants. That staff and those spaces are only used for state functions, not for the private use of the pope and his family and friends.

I’m not. I’m comparing the Pope to other Bishops, and have no doubt, his comforts are above those of average Bishops. Oh sure, there are some like Cardinal Law, who lived like a king while in the archdiocese of Boston.

Since you’re a Carmelite, I strongly suggest that you go back to Teresa and John of the Cross and carefully observe their prudence, discretion and reverence in speaking about the Pontiff.

Oh pulease, don’t give me that.

We only know what St John and St Teresa wrote about in their spiritual teachings, not their daily lives. For all we know, they had some serious complaints against the Bishop in charge of the inquisition which Teresa had to appear before, and the head provincial of the Carmelites in Spain, who had John thrown in prison.

I’m not berating the Pope for having a nice living standard. I’m just not convinced it’s not as good as the average Bishop, which you earlier claimed.

Jim

 

[CatholicFireman]

I’d show a little more respect and charity when talking to the religious in here, my friend.

 

[Luvtosew]

I"m sure its more like cologne, and its a natual scent he likes, probably just a herbalist makes it for him, no big deal. some of the store bought stuff is well horrible.