Perpetual eucharistic adoration

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National Catholic Reporter: Richard McBrien:
However, as time went on, eucharistic devotions, including adoration, drifted further and further away from their liturgical grounding in the Mass itself.

Notwithstanding Pope Benedict XVI’s personal endorsement of eucharistic adoration and the sporadic restoration of the practice in the archdiocese of Boston and elsewhere, it is difficult to speak favorably about the devotion today.

Now that most Catholics are literate and even well-educated, the Mass is in the language of the people (i.e, the vernacular), and its rituals are relatively easy to understand and follow, there is little or no need for extraneous eucharistic devotions. The Mass itself provides all that a Catholic needs sacramentally and spiritually.

Eucharistic adoration, perpetual or not, is a doctrinal, theological, and spiritual step backward, not forward.
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The whole article is here.

This is interestingly enough from a Theology professor at Notre Dame.

God Bless.

Chris.
 
Vocations have doubled in some seminaries where eucharistic adoration has been established. Blessed Mother Teresa ascribed the flourishing of her religious community to the practise of adoration. No priest, no sacraments, no sacraments, no Church. Quod erat demonstrandum.
 
NCR once again shows itself to be ignorant of Catholicism and its long history.
 
Clueless. I suppose we should stop praying the Rosary too, since we can read spiritual books instead. :rolleyes:

“Pray without ceasing!”
 
CGDouglas said:
The whole article is here.

This is interestingly enough from a Theology professor at Notre Dame.

God Bless.

Chris.
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I suppose that even theologens are entitled to their opinions and to choose which devotions they wish to use privately, but I think I’ll go with what our Holy Father is suggesting which is simply to spend more time in the presence of Our Dear Lord.

Peace
James
 
CGDouglas said:
The whole article is here.

This is interestingly enough from a Theology professor at Notre Dame.

God Bless.

Chris.
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As always consider the source. 😉

Interesting that he would try to make it sound like this is a reversion being advocated by Pope Benedict XVI (remember how openly McBrien expressed his disappointment when Ratzinger became Pope). Pope John Paul II was also a huge proponent of Eucharistic Adoration.
 
JRKH said:
I suppose that even theologens are entitled to their opinions and to choose which devotions they wish to use privately, but I think I’ll go with what our Holy Father is suggesting which is simply to spend more time in the presence of Our Dear Lord.

Peace
James
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I agree that everyone has different devotions that are closer to their hearts or that bring us closer to God. However this quote strikes me as profoundly sad:
The Mass itself provides all that a Catholic needs sacramentally and spiritually.
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While the Eucharist is the source and summit, for a priest to discard the wealth and depth of Catholic spriritual devotion is heartbreaking.
 
What a strange thing to say. If The Eucharist is Jesus Christ, whole and entire, then how could Eucharistic devotion or worship ever be moving ‘backwards’? Regardless of what he says about the Mass, the only thing I can conclude is that he doesn’t really believe.
 
I think that this is a glaring example as to why Catholics who esteem their faith, and particularly the faith of their children, should choose their universities wisely. Use the Neumann guide!!!

God Bless
To Jesus, through Mary
 
Corki said:
I agree that everyone has different devotions that are closer to their hearts or that bring us closer to God. However this quote strikes me as profoundly sad:
The Mass itself provides all that a Catholic needs sacramentally and spiritually.
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I agree, and I actually started to address this earlier. Unless we are already “Perfect as our Hevenly Father is Perfect” we should NEVER be satisfied but continue to seek ways to grow in sanctity. This guy is promoting a “your good enough just doing the minimum” sort of attitude that is dangerous to souls (mostly his own).

Peace
James
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I’m not really good at writing and expressing myself so I didn’t leave a comment. But I sure hope some of the wise Catholics here in this thread left one.
 
Tybourne said:
Vocations have doubled in some seminaries where eucharistic adoration has been established. Blessed Mother Teresa ascribed the flourishing of her religious community to the practise of adoration. No priest, no sacraments, no sacraments, no Church. Quod erat demonstrandum.
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MacBrien is more Lutheran than Catholic. Adoration is testimony to the Real Presence, Lutherans do not reserve the hosts.
 
I know there is someone out there who keeps trying to get us to not spend time with Christ…someone who hates it when we adore Our Lord…someone who’s fighting against our loving Jesus…

I think he has horns and a pitchfork? Well, at any rate, at least now we know where he is - teaching at Notre Dame.
 
Rawb said:
I know there is someone out there who keeps trying to get us to not spend time with Christ…someone who hates it when we adore Our Lord…someone who’s fighting against our loving Jesus…

I think he has horns and a pitchfork? Well, at any rate, at least now we know where he is - teaching at Notre Dame.
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Photoshop, anyone? 😃
 
JRKH said:
I agree, and I actually started to address this earlier. Unless we are already “Perfect as our Hevenly Father is Perfect” we should NEVER be satisfied but continue to seek ways to grow in sanctity. This guy is promoting a “your good enough just doing the minimum” sort of attitude that is dangerous to souls (mostly his own).

Peace
James
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You basically just refered to The Divine Liturgy, Heaven on Earth as a minimum. Maybe this is the problem he is refering to. We have seperated the Eucharist from the Divine Liturgy, from community and from sacrifice. It is basically now a Protestant God and I relationship, not a Church and God relationship. Also for those who call him Lutheran, He actually sounds like he has more of an Orthodox or Eastern understanding, which has always stressed the importance of the Divine Liturgy, and against its divisions.
 
This article is a joke. The writer is a well-known dissenter from Catholic beliefs. His publication “Catholicism” was once condemned by the Australian bishops, as I recall. The theology department at Notre Dame is becoming more orthodox, from what I have heard, but since he is known nationally he is the leading scandal of that university. I find what he wrote in this article particularly repellant. Pray for him.
 
Polaris said:
You basically just refered to The Divine Liturgy, Heaven on Earth as a minimum. Maybe this is the problem he is refering to. ** We have seperated the Eucharist from the Divine Liturgy, from community and from sacrifice.** It is basically now a Protestant God and I relationship, not a Church and God relationship. Also for those who call him Lutheran, He actually sounds like he has more of an Orthodox or Eastern understanding, which has always stressed the importance of the Divine Liturgy, and against its divisions.
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This is utter nonsense. No one uses Eucharistic adoration as a replacement for the Mass. In fact, in parishes where adoration is encouraged and/or perpetual, daily Mass tends to have greater numbers than in parishes that don’t. Are you saying that there is no place for a one-on-one relationship with God in the Catholic and Orthodox faiths?

McBrien’s heretical views would not find a home in the Orthodox Church any more than they belong in the Catholic Church.
 
Luke65 said:
Clueless. I suppose we should stop praying the Rosary too, since we can read spiritual books instead. :rolleyes:

“Pray without ceasing!”
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SHHHHHhhh!

For years after Vatican II many liberal priests taught that quite vociferously. Don’t remind them. They might start it up again.
 
Just posted on this article. Even among generally orthodox priests of the last generation or two there is often a lack of understanding for the desire for exposition and adoration (though the good priests tend to do it even if they aren’t sure why you want it).
 
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