Perry backs constitutional change for school prayer

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And exactly how do you expect a first grader, a kinder gardener, or pre-schooler to remember to pray when it’s not reinforced by the adults in authority over them?
Early childhood religious formation should always start the child’s immediate family, no one else.
Or who’s to show the high school-er that religion isn’t just a child’s game? That it’s real and important?
Their families. Parents, grandparents, siblings, should be a teens’ first and best religious/spiritual models.
If the Christians don’t think it’s any big deal for kids to spend the majority of their day keeping God out of their words, thoughts and actions, why should a kid think God is important?
No one is stopping a religious child from keeping God our of her thoughts and actions regardless of where she is right now. No one is stopping a child from believing that God is important and acting accordingly.
 
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And exactly how do you expect a first grader, a kinder gardener, or pre-schooler to remember to pray when it’s not reinforced by the adults in authority over them?
Early childhood religious formation should always start the child’s immediate family, no one else.

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Or who’s to show the high school-er that religion isn’t just a child’s game? That it’s real and important?
Their families. Parents, grandparents, siblings, should be a teens’ first and best religious/spiritual models.

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If the Christians don’t think it’s any big deal for kids to spend the majority of their day keeping God out of their words, thoughts and actions, why should a kid think God is important?
No one is stopping a religious child from keeping God our of her thoughts and actions regardless of where she is right now. No one is stopping a child from believing that God is important and acting accordingly.

Well spoken Luna,

John
 
I support that as well. If Islamic nations can do that to their children, a Christian nation should be able to as well.
 
One of my “atheist” friends … he said his grandmother was an actual Communist … told me one day, that if we allowed school prayer … “you just don’t know what might happen”.

His exact words.

Not making this up.

He was genuinely concerned … almost terrified at the prospect.

I was unable to wrap my mind around his fear and unable to formulate a rapid come-back … if I had been able to respond, I probably would have been accused of “insensitivity”.

[Actually, at this same place, I did get accused of “hate speech”. No joke. Formal charges, mandating my boss’s boss to initiate an inquiry. What happened was this: … Someone gave me a really nice large wall-size calendar at the end of the year for the new upcoming year. On this calendar … the days of the week began on Monday. Each weekly “line” was two weeks long. Each page had a very large color photograph … picture and covered two months. Someone remarked about it. I said, “It’s a Polish calendar”. And so, I was officially and formally accused of “hate speech”. But, you see, the problem was … the calendar was published by LOT, the Polish Airline, and every picture was of a LOT Polish Airliner with the Polish identification clearly and prominently shown … unmistakeable … , and the calendar was written in Polish … and printed in Poland … and said so VERY CLEARLY.]

[My accuser remained anonymous, but eventually I figured out who it was. Same person, who when recommending a restaurant because they had a nice salad bar … and I said I didn’t care much for salad bars … came at me earnestly … and demanded to know: “What do you have against salad bars?”]

[The guy had some “issues”, so I made “allowances” for that. The last time I saw the guy, he was totally drunk … I think he only had one small glass of wine … and couldn’t stop talking. Good grief. I finally found him a place where he could sit down and sober up and be out of the way. Young fella.]
 
I’m old enough to remember bible reading before classes, either by a teacher or student, in the auditorium in the New York City public school I attended as a child. Most of the children in the public school were Jewish since they came from a largely Jewish neighborhood. However, none of the teachers was Jewish due to the fact that, at the time, New York City rarely, if ever, hired Jewish teachers. Even then, I wondered why prayer was taking place in school (although it was mainly from the Hebrew Bible) since it was not a yeshiva or synagogue. A year or two later, the readings stopped. I have no objection to students’ praying individually whenever they wish–especially before exams–but I don’t want organized prayer being led by teachers or administrators in public schools. They’re called PUBLIC schools for a reason: they are open to the public, meaning a diverse population of religious, as well as non-religious, beliefs. Teaching about religion in public school is one thing, as is individual student prayer; but organized prayer is quite another.
 
I’m old enough to remember bible reading before classes, either by a teacher or student, in the auditorium in the New York City public school I attended as a child. Most of the children in the public school were Jewish since they came from a largely Jewish neighborhood. However, none of the teachers was Jewish due to the fact that, at the time, New York City rarely, if ever, hired Jewish teachers. Even then, I wondered why prayer was taking place in school (although it was mainly from the Hebrew Bible) since it was not a yeshiva or synagogue. A year or two later, the readings stopped. I have no objection to students’ praying individually whenever they wish–especially before exams–but I don’t want organized prayer being led by teachers or administrators in public schools. They’re called PUBLIC schools for a reason: they are open to the public, meaning a diverse population of religious, as well as non-religious, beliefs. Teaching about religion in public school is one thing, as is individual student prayer; but organized prayer is quite another.
They are not really public schools.

They are really government-sponsored schools, run by teachers’ unions.
 
They are not really public schools.

They are really government-sponsored schools, run by teachers’ unions.
You certainly don’t want anyone from a teachers union having anything to do with praying. That would be a scary prayer.
 
While there’s many aspects taking place such as this in specific area. Or for example 5000 town members showing up in Athens Tex. over the stopping of the 47-year ritual of placing a Nativity Scene at court house square.

google.com/url?q=http://www.texasinsider.org/%3Fp%3D56815&sa=U&ei=lc30TsHQGsHW0QHk9ZS0Ag&ved=0CBgQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNEuzY9sG3pN2i5ASTR434wIwrVuzQ

This particular election has drawn more interest than any I can remember. The laws of Conscious and the supression of HR3 just isn’t acceptable. And the result is what we are seeing on all fronts now. And rightfully so, enough is enough.

HR3 is really the underlying issue which btw Catholic’s for Pro Choice support. Check it out. By 2014 every religious facility, college, health center will be in direct conflict with their conscious.

google.com/url?q=https://www.popvox.com/bills/us/112/hr3/docs/cfc/4&sa=U&ei=6M_0Tuoq4eLRAbaarZEC&ved=0CBIQFjAB&usg=AFQjCNHiu-yldKsm-6Hq2mnLUQq7k45dKw
 
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