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Please show me just where I have invited or encouraged you to pray to anyone else?
You misrepresent me now?!
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You misrepresent me now?!
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2ndGen
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Is God’s revelation not true?
THE TRUTHFULNESS OF HIS REVELATION TO JOHN IS NOT IN QUESTION HERE.
THE QUESTION(S) I POSED TO YOU (WHICH ARE TOPIC RELATED) ARE IN REFERENCE TO ISAIAH’S STATE OF MIND WHEN HE CALLED THE LORD THE ROCK.
YOU SEEM TO CLAIM THAT ISAIAH MEANT “JESUS” WHEN HE STATED THAT THE LORD IS THE ROCK KNOWINGLY.
YOU SEEM FOND OF QUOTING SCRIPTURE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, CAN YOU QUOTE SOME TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS I POSED TO YOU PROVING THAT ISAIAH CALLED JESUS CHRIST SPECIFICALLY “LORD”?
AND IF ROCK AUTOMATICALLY MEANS LORD,
THEN DID JESUS CALL SIMON “LORD” WHEN HE CHANGED HIS NAME TO ROCK?
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MrStain
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Yes, YOUR Christianity and YOUR beliefs are not defined by Catholicism. Other than that, we don’t really know what your beliefs are other than you are obviously not a fan of Peter, the Apostolic teaching, or the Church Jesus founded. So what can you tell us about your special version of Christianity??
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Who was Jesus addressing in the following passage?
Matthew 18:18 “I tell you the truth, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
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**My Christianity is not defined by your religion, but is determined by faith in my saviour, the Lord Jesus.
You could respect me by not naming me a n-c Christian.**
Do you? **
You could respect me by not naming me a n-c Christian.**
**All I can share with you is that I love Jesus.
Do you? **
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**John 1:1 In the beginning the Word already existed. He was with God, and he was God.
Is God’s revelation not true?**
Is God’s revelation not true?**
**Is this an expression of the state of Isiah’s mind or is this a revelation of God? **
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MrStain
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oh, one more thing and to sort of get back on topic… Who do you think compiled and kept safe for centuries the scriptures you are quoting from? If you believe in the Trinity – which is no guarantee anymore in protestantism – who do you think clarified and defended that belief? Do you believe in the two natures of Christ i.e. fully God and fulle man? There are so many more, so please give the Catholic Church some credit for defining some of your beliefs.
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**1 John 2:26 For his Spirit teaches you about everything
Do you want the credit for the work of the Holy Spirit? **
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I never said that your religion is defined by anything…again, you misrepresent me.
“N-C Christian” is a non pejorative that stands for “non-Catholic Christian”…you have nothing to take offense at.
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17] If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
[18] Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
[19] Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven.
[20] For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
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**Jesus was talking to his disciples.I never said that your religion is defined by anything…again, you misrepresent me.
“N-C Christian” is a non pejorative that stands for “non-Catholic Christian”…you have nothing to take offense at.
Context context context!
17] If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector.
[18] Truly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
[19] Again I say to you, if two of you agree on earth about anything they ask, it will be done for them by my Father in heaven.
[20] For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them."
Therefore all disciples are able to bind and loose.
What makes you think that only Peter had that authority? **
**Are you telling me when I am offended? **I never said that your religion is defined by anything…again, you misrepresent me.
“N-C Christian” is a non pejorative that stands for “non-Catholic Christian”…you have nothing to take offense at.
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MrStain
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You know it brother. Jesus says if you love me you will follow my commandments (Jn 14:15). Jesus clearly left us an authoritative body in the Apostles who could speak for Him (Lk 10:16) and shepherd His flock (Jn 21:17). I love Jesus and I trust the Church He founded and would guide into all truth (Jn 16:13).
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MrStain
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So, then you do believe that the Catholic Church was guided by the Holy Spirit to canonize and protect the Scriptures; define the doctrine of the Trinity & the two natures of Christ?
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**John 6:13 When, however, the Spirit comes, who reveals the truth about God, he will lead you into all the truth.
It is the Spirit and not the church, who leads into all the truth. **
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MrStain
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As Jesus said, the Father would send His Helper to guide His Church into all truth (Jn 14:26 & Jn 16:13). Why else would it be called the pillar and foundation of truth (1 Tim 3:15)?
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**and the Paul goes on to say: The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. 2 Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. 3 They forbid people to marry and order them to abstain from certain foods, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. 1 Tim 4
How can you be certain that you are not following false teachers? **
**2 Timothy 3:16 Every scripture inspired of God is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction which is in righteousness. 17 That the man of God may be complete, furnished completely unto every good work.
Did we get the scriptures from God, or do you want the credit? **
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MrStain
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It’s quite simple and it is the reason I am no longer a Baptist. By the Grace of God I’ve come to believe in the faith of the early & Apostolic Church. History can be your friend. It can expose you to the faith of those who sat at the feet of the Apostles – most of them martyred – and others mentioned in our Sacred Scriptures. Do not be afraid of it. After all, God created time.
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**How can you be certain that you are not following false teachers? **
**Does your belief dictate the truth or the inspired word of God? **
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Stephen_C
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Are you allways this rude? It was the Catholic Church that cannonized the bible. It was the Catholic Church that through the guidance of the Holy Spirit is the only reason you have that bible today…I take no credit for that.
Just humbled and so thankful he as led me back to the Catholic Church…His church…the one founded by Jesus. You know the one he gave Peter the keys to. The one He said not even the gates of hell would previl. The one which is protected by the holy spirit from teaching error…
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MariaG
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So what part was offensive?
The non-Catholic part or the Christian part?
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