Pfizer recalls birth control pills

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iHeartThe60s said:
How’s that for irony?
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It isn’t. At all. But it does go to show that birth control isn’t the perfect magical thing that so many people believe it to be these days.,

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Ne_OrangeKnight said:
It isn’t. At all. But it does go to show that birth control isn’t the perfect magical thing that so many people believe it to be these days.
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No drug is perfect or magical. All of them have side effects and risks. And potentially any of them could suffer from the sort of manufacturing error which happened to Pfizer.
 
No drug is perfect or magical. All carry side effects and risks. And any of them potentially could suffer from the sort of manufacturing error which affected Pfizer.
 
And any male born to these women should be named Jeremiah (ref Jeremiah 1:5), as a type of prophet to continually remind them of the folly which they must fight- contraception and its murderous end on entire generations.
 
jonbhorton said:
And any male born to these women should be named Jeremiah (ref Jeremiah 1:5), as a type of prophet to continually remind them of the folly which they must fight- contraception and its murderous end on entire generations.
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While I take your point and it’s very well made, it is worth pointing out, in case of future misapprehensions, that contraception isn’t an abortifacient. It prevents conception in the first place, either by barrier methods (preventing sperm meeting egg) or by medically preventing ovulation (no egg for the sperm to meet). In neither instance does a fertilisation of the egg occur and therefore there is no conception and no subsequent murder.

Of course contraception still works against the purpose of the creative act of intercourse, but it is not the murder of abortion and we shouldn’t believe it is unless someone is actually misusing the term itself for something that is actually a post-fertilisation obstruction to the implantation of the fertilised egg.

Here ends my pedantry.
 
DexUK said:
While I take your point and it’s very well made, it is worth pointing out, in case of future misapprehensions, that contraception isn’t an abortifacient. It prevents conception in the first place, either by barrier methods (preventing sperm meeting egg) or by medically preventing ovulation (no egg for the sperm to meet). In neither instance does a fertilisation of the egg occur and therefore there is no conception and no subsequent murder.

Of course contraception still works against the purpose of the creative act of intercourse, but it is not the murder of abortion and we shouldn’t believe it is unless someone is actually misusing the term itself for something that is actually a post-fertilisation obstruction to the implantation of the fertilised egg.

Here ends my pedantry.
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It is certainly a murderous end on generations.

As far as birth control pills, they can and do fail and often result in the actual abortion of a viable embryonic human. If not intentional, it’s not murder. It is however a murder of generations.

Japan has killed 1/3 of its future off through various means, literally and figuratively:

zerohedge.com/news/japanese-population-shrink-one-third-size-workforce-plunge-under-50-years
 
Dale_M said:
No drug is perfect or magical. All carry side effects and risks. And any of them potentially could suffer from the sort of manufacturing error which affected Pfizer.
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the fact that this one is classified as cancer causing is worth mentioning also…I suppose that could also be considered a defect of sorts.
 
Ne_OrangeKnight said:
It isn’t. At all. But it does go to show that birth control isn’t the perfect magical thing that so many people believe it to be these days.
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I should have clarified what I meant by ironic: that this recall comes just as HHS mandate requiring birth control to be covered has been creating a firestorm of outrage. My thought was that perhaps this could, in some way, influence the pro-birth control folk in Washington to reconsider the mandate since it seems that they refuse to take into consideration any morality-based arguments against it.
 
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