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Here ya go!Are there any sites online with the full Latin Mass translated to English?
The more I read about the EF the more I want to learn it![]()
Here ya go!Are there any sites online with the full Latin Mass translated to English?
The more I read about the EF the more I want to learn it![]()
That’s truly beautifulI will go in unto the Altar of God.
To God, Who giveth joy to my youth.
After wandering the unstable, chaotic, battlefield of the Novus Ordo for the better part of thirty-five years, the Preparatory Prayers at the Foot of the Altar were immediately familiar to my ears. Those were the words that welcomed me back and assured me that my home had not been totally destroyed.Wow. Now that’s reverence.
Every part of it is a beautiful prayer. Each line is worthy of reflection.
That’s truly beautiful![]()
That’s how I feel too, even though I have been an OF’er for all 18 years of my life. Something was just wrong after a while, and literally the moment I heard about the Latin Mass and just looked at pictures, and when I saw the hybrid Latin/English Mass on EWTN, I was in shock. THIS was Catholic. FINALLY!!After wandering the unstable, chaotic, battlefield of the Novus Ordo for the better part of thirty-five years, the Preparatory Prayers at the Foot of the Altar were immediately familiar to my ears. Those were the words that welcomed me back and assured me that my home had not been totally destroyed.
God bless youThat’s how I feel too, even though I have been an OF’er for all 18 years of my life. Something was just wrong after a while, and literally the moment I heard about the Latin Mass and just looked at pictures, and when I saw the hybrid Latin/English Mass on EWTN, I was in shock. THIS was Catholic. FINALLY!!
If anybody’s been to St. Boniface, well THAT was my first Latin Mass. My mother (who had that Mass as a young child) was staring at me like I was crazy when I broke down bawling the moment we got to the car. Partially because of how beautiful it was, partially because I don’t understand how people gave this up for all of the ugliness.
Also I like the “Domine non sum dignis” prayer and what the priest says when we receive Our Lord. This and the prayers the priest says on our behalf, asking God over and over again to take us to heaven, are beautiful and I think are far more spiritually beneficial to us than the new missal, where there are far less prayers for us. And the prayers of a priest, especially in front of the Tabernacle, over and over again, are surely taken into consideration on our dying day.
Me too…it is utterly sublime. I adore the Asperges mei and the Last Gospel and the Ecce Homo and well really the whole Mass is sublime in its beauty.For some reason the part of the above I bolded has always jumped out at me and made me feel all warm and fuzzy![]()
I know exactly what you’re talking about! I was reading St. John Vianney’s biography, and when I flipped the page and saw a picture of him giving first communion, I got all choked up because there was a high altar, there were six candles, there was the altar rail and there was the paten. Once you’ve got the Latin Mass down, you could go back in time and walk into any parish like the one in Ars, or go to Mass with a saint, and you’d feel right at home.I was born after VII, but as a history major, I realised how much of the Church’s history was connected with Latin and so took the opportunity to study it. I also read many lives of the saints; this Mass is what a lot of my patrons knew and was how they worshiped. It makes me feel close to them.
We must remember this though: I’ve heard that in his lifetime St. John Vianney would have celebrated Mass according to the Rite of Lyons, the see of the Gallican primate (which however is indeed one local ‘Use’ of the Roman Rite, albeit one which has preserved elements of the Gallican liturgies). In fact, he really wished to celebrate the Mass as done in Rome because he wanted to do things the Pope it, and partly because in his time, the Lyonese Missal was being ‘infected’ by Neo-Gallicanism - a problem which was fortunately rectified in its subsequent editions, returning it more and more towards the authentic tradition of the medieval Church of Lyon.I know exactly what you’re talking about! I was reading St. John Vianney’s biography, and when I flipped the page and saw a picture of him giving first communion, I got all choked up because there was a high altar, there were six candles, there was the altar rail and there was the paten. Once you’ve got the Latin Mass down, you could go back in time and walk into any parish like the one in Ars, or go to Mass with a saint, and you’d feel right at home.
Hey, count me in!Call me crazy, but I am aspiring to be one of those Catholic nerds who can hold a conversation in Latin![]()
Nah. It’s the “thanks be to God” after that! When I heard that as a child, it meant I could now go home because Mass was finally over!
I feel the same way about the prayers at the foot of the Altar. They are so penitent, humble & said that the priest may be worthy to pray the Mass & that we may be made worthy to pray it with him.It’s all so reverent. When I first read the text, I was very moved by the prayers at the foot of the altar. So much preparation, penance, and patience to ready the Priest and Servers to dare approach the Tabernacle. And such total awareness shown in venerating the relics.
All done with the priest facing God in the Real Presence and his back to the world and it’s prince Satan![]()
I am never at Holy Mass that this phrase doesn’t always strike me from the Last Gospel:
AND THE LIGHT SHINETH IN DARKESSS, AND THE DARKNESS DID NOT COMPREHEND IT
I always think to myself that nothing has changed in two thousand years.****
Ah yes…the last gospel from John 1, it embraces the wholeness of our faith, “from In the beginning was the Word & the Word was with God…”.
(In principio erat Verbum, et Verbum erat apud Deum, et Deus erat Verbum. Hoc erat in principio apud Deum. Omnia per ipsum facta sunt: et sine ipso factum …)
to…**And the Word was made flesh, & dwelt among us, & we saw His Glory, the glory as it were of the only-begotten of the Father, full of grace & truth. **
(Verbum caro factum est et habitavit in nobis et vidimus gloriam eius quasi unigeniti a Patre plenum gratiae et veritatis)
LOVE IT!!
It reminds me of this custom which prevailed in many areas during the Middle Ages, where the priest would make a cruciform position when reciting the Unde et Memores. This practice of extending the arms in forma crucis never made it to the 1570 Roman Missal and its later revisions, but it was still performed in some other rites.It is hard to pick one thing, but I have always been moved by the “Unde et Memores” portion of the Canon which was unfortunately removed from the OF canon. To me it really emphasizes the Mass as the Holy Sacrifice:
“Unde et memores, Domine, nos servi tui, sed et plebs tua sancta, ejusdem Christi Filii tui Domini nostri tam beatae Passionis nec non et ab inferis Ressurectionis, sed et in coelos gloriosae Ascenionis: offerimus praeclarae majestati tuae de tuis donis ac datis hostiam + puram, hostiam + sanctam, hostiam + immaculatam, Panem + sanctam vitae aeternae, et Calicem + salutis perpetuae.”
Mindful therefore O Lord, not only of the blessed passion of the same Christ your Son, our Lord, but also of His resurrection form the dead, and finally his glorious ascension into heaven, we, Your ministers, as also Your holy people, offer to Your supreme Majesty, of the gifts bestowed upon us, the pure + Victim, the holy + Victim, the all perfect + Victim: the holy + Bread of life eternal and the Chalice + of unending salvation.
Yes! On a DVD I have of ICRSS’s Mass of the Exaltation of the Holy Cross – I love that it takes them like 5 minutes to even touch the altar! Unhurried preparatory prayers, a focus of the solemnity of the Mass, lifts the occasion to the sublime.I feel the same way about the prayers at the foot of the Altar. They are so penitent, humble & said that the priest may be worthy to pray the Mass & that we may be made worthy to pray it with him.