Physical Relations between two people a sin?

[thistle]

I never said that they didn’t do anything that shows that they love the Lord, just that some things they may compromise on. I don’t think that Jesus realistically expected us to follow everything that he did perfectly. He’s God and had a very hard time resisting temptation… How could someone mortal hope to even come close??

Maybe I’m just looking at religion a bit more logistically, finding a way to use it to make everyone’s life better by allowing everyone to be involved to an extent, and that way everyone would be just a bit nicer, a bit more honest, and a bit better off. That way, everyone is able to benefit, and I think that is the closest to completion that God’s plan can come on earth, because I don’t think that people are willing to resist compromise. I feel that more of a give and take relationship with God would be *welcomed *by Him, since that way you’re at the very least closer to Him than you were before.
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Is it possible that maybe the “right” religion isn’t just the one dictated that we choose? After all, with all of the possible permutations of ideas, the number of possible “right” religions is infinite. What are the odds that ANY organized religion hit it head-on? After all, most resist compromise to maintain individuality, and throughout history held on stubbornly to views even in teh face of clear opposition…

Not to say that the church is bad, not at all, just that it’s an organization run by men, and men are fallible**…

The Catholic Church is the only true Church. It was founded by Jesus (who is God) while all other religions were founded by men. Jesus gave Authority to the Church and in matters of faith and morals it can NEVER be in error. We are supposed to obey God’s will and not try to bend God to our will when we don’t like one or other of his teachings.

 

[Usagi]

Others have tackled the “loving God vs. doing his will” part. I’d like to ask about the “physical relations.”

Your OP said that the relations in question are not any type of sex, and used hugging and kissing as examples.

As far as I know, that’s not sinful at all. Obviously, deliberately arousing desire that you are not yet able to satisfy is a bad idea, but there’s nothing that utterly prohibits physical affection between people who are dating.

If Jack and Jill are Catholic, they have Confession to turn to if they do step over the line, but from what you’ve said it does not sound as if they are doing so.

I’d say there’s greater moral danger in persuading oneself that Jesus doesn’t care about behavior and in calling into question the teachings of the Church (as you seem to be doing in later posts) than in hugging and kissing.

Not that wondering and questioning is bad, but you seem to be on the verge of a “If I don’t get the ‘right’ answer to my question, the Church is obviously wrong” moment.

Usagi

 

[AndyF]

dkong:

Sounds like there are two candidates for marriage.

They are to be commended for restraining themselves, but it is obvious the strains of limitations and the degree of their love are there. So they should get married.

Jesus died to MAKE IT POSSIBLE for man to be saved. And he wouldn’t have needed to sacrifice himself if everyone did what they were told. Right?

I wish them good luck and avoid temptations. They should find a way to live closer to each other, and get married. (and of course the all important thing to do is…to send Andy Fletcher an invite.)

Andy