Physics and relics

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If I didn’t carry the “baggage” of sin and merit (I hope merit) than it is possible to imagine that I change into a different person each moment. It is not necessarily true, but it is possible
 
thinkandmull said:
If I didn’t carry the “baggage” of sin and merit (I hope merit) than it is possible to imagine that I change into a different person each moment. It is not necessarily true, but it is possible
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So, you experience that you are the same person who yesterday made certain action. Even if it happened that from one moment to the other you were surrounded by different people, you would still remember the action and that it was you who made it. It does not matter if Hume coincided on this or not.

Now suppose you suffer from Alzheimer’s. Another person comes to you and says: “I wanted to thank you, because yesterday you behaved so well with me”. You respond: “Me? No, it wasn’t me? Who are you?”. In this case, whatever Hume said you would not be able to make any sense out of it. But the other person would realize that you have a mental problem and, if he is good, he would treat you with care and patience for the rest of the time and the day after, if he meets you again, because he knows you are the same person, no matter what Hume or the materialists have to say in their books.

Surely, your experience is somewhere in the middle of these two situations: there are actions that you made and you remember, and there are some which you don’t. So?
 
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I want to understand quantum physics better. If nature at its deeper levels is undulatory and fluctuating, doesn’t this mean that there is no definite nature to something? Not that there is not truly a dog or a cat, but is it the same dog or cat everyday? This applies to us Catholics because we believe that relics are important.
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Particles do phase in and out or Blink. It’s up to science to explain the mechanics. But, you could make the hypothesis they are watching God maintaining the existence of matter. I believe it is in Catholic teaching that God created and maintains the existence of the universe. 🙂
 
thinkandmull said:
Well from what I understand about physics, subatomic particles come and go out of existence all the time. Who knows if they are the same particles or not. So I am basically wondering if Catholics are required to believe that relics always have the same atomic particles, because otherwise it is not really materially related to a saint :confused:
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From this point of view, you can make a Quantum Mechanics theory to support the Catholic belief in “Transubstantiation.” That is, the change of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus!

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The_Serpent said:
From this point of view, you can make a Quantum Mechanics theory to support the Catholic belief in “Transubstantiation.” That is, the change of bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Jesus!

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See post 18
 
JuanFlorencio said:
So, you experience that you are the same person who yesterday made certain action. Even if it happened that from one moment to the other you were surrounded by different people, you would still remember the action and that it was you who made it. It does not matter if Hume coincided on this or not.

Now suppose you suffer from Alzheimer’s. Another person comes to you and says: “I wanted to thank you, because yesterday you behaved so well with me”. You respond: “Me? No, it wasn’t me? Who are you?”. In this case, whatever Hume said you would not be able to make any sense out of it. But the other person would realize that you have a mental problem and, if he is good, he would treat you with care and patience for the rest of the time and the day after, if he meets you again, because he knows you are the same person, no matter what Hume or the materialists have to say in their books.

Surely, your experience is somewhere in the middle of these two situations: there are actions that you made and you remember, and there are some which you don’t. So?
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How would you know that the feeling of a past experience was more than just a feeling but had metaphysical reality to it apart from the sense of conscience?
 
thinkandmull said:
How would you know that the feeling of a past experience was more than just a feeling but had metaphysical reality to it apart from the sense of conscience?
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There are several ways. One is this: Tomorrow some of my colleagues will tell me: “As we agreed yesterday…”, or “Here is what you asked me yesterday…”, or “I liked what you said yesterday…”, etcétera.
 
Maybe I have a hangover from when I studied Buddhism… It seems to me that it is from conscience alone that we can know we are a person. We **feel **like a person no doubt
 
Aloysium said:
You may want to discuss this on a physics forum. I don’t think the findings of quantum physics imply what you think they do. The fluctuations appear to be related to whether a particle is existing as itself or, at some other point, as merely a wave in something larger which includes the apparatus that isolates and demonstrates its properties. What I’m saying basically is that it shows the workings of matter to be the opposite of what you are saying here. But, I’m not a physicist and have enough trouble keeping up to date in my area.
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If you’re looking for a science forum, you can try here:

sciencechatforum.com/

It moves slower than this one though
 
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