Pics of Novus Ordo - Ad Orientem!

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solanus:
I received my first Holy Communion from Fr Perrone. It was 24 years ago but I will never forget him. I keep meaning to get down to the Grotto for Mass and say hi to him…

Thanks for the pics
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Do come down. The orchestral Masses should be starting up soon. He has a Masters in music and directs them. Hearing a sizeable symphony with strings is awesome in that Church. Add to that, the choir, singing some of the great choral pieces through the Mass and it is not uncommon to see people break down in tears. I was almost one of them, but composed myself.

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Watch the parish website for announcements on when they will take place, but plan on getting there some 30-40 minutes in advance due to parking difficulties.

assumptiongrotto.com/

Also, here are more of his sermons for those interested. There are many Mass talks and the order on the page is kind of jumbled so start at the bottom and hunt down the numbers in the right order. There does not seem to be a #1, and there is no #3.

assumptiongrotto.com/Sermons.htm
 
How can you differentiate N O ad orientem to TLM basaed on picture?
 
viktor aleksndr:
How can you differentiate N O ad orientem to TLM basaed on picture?
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This question makes a statement that many posts could not make.
 
viktor aleksndr:
what is an altar card? and which of the two uses altar cards?
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Old Mass uses Altar cards. There are three one on the left (gospel of john), middle (consecration prayers), and the one one the right (can’t remember what it is).
 
viktor aleksndr:
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The altar cards missing as mentioned in an earlier post by me on another thread and by another person here. As well, some of the pictures show concelebration, which as I understand, is rare if not entirely existant except for some occasions with the TLM; e.g. Papal Masses.
 
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SummaTheo:
and the one one the right (can’t remember what it is).
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I believe that was the Epistle.

As for the center card, it didn’t just have the consecration prayers on it, it also had the gloria and credo on it.
 
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SummaTheo:
Old Mass uses Altar cards. There are three one on the left (gospel of john), middle (consecration prayers), and the one one the right (can’t remember what it is).
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Is that the cards that looks like a picture frame on the extreme sides of the altar?
 
I read something about the TLM and i think it is really shows adoration to God.

This is in part of the Gloria
As soon as the Kyrie is finished, the priest starts the Gloria, the canticle of praise to the Trinity, attributed to Pope Telesphorus 130 years after Christ. (The Gloria is omitted when the vestments are black or violet and during certain votive Masses.) As the priest begins the prayer, he separates his hands horizontally and raises them to shoulder level before rejoining them and bowing his head at the word Deo. Standing erect, with hands joined, he continues to the end, reading from the centre altar card if necessary. He bows to the crucifix at the words adoramus te, gratias agimus, Jesu Christe, suscipe deprecationem and Jesu Christe again. At the words cum Sancto Spiritu he makes the Sign of the Cross. After the Amen, without rejoining his hands, he places his hands outside the corporal and kisses the centre of the altar.
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I can’t see it in the N O especially in my diocese even bowing of head upon mentioning the name of Jesus.
 
viktor aleksndr:
I read something about the TLM and i think it is really shows adoration to God.

This is in part of the Gloria

I can’t see it in the N O especially in my diocese even bowing of head upon mentioning the name of Jesus.
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It is at times unfortunate that those who are celebrating the liturgy do not follow the proscribed methods of showing due reverence that are provided for in the Rubrics under the GIRM. The problem is that few priests have read it in whole and some blatently disregarde the instructions.
 
Wow, great pics. Brings back a lot of memories of being an altar boy back then. Going behind the altar to light all the candles for a solemn high mass. Arguing with the other altar boys to see who would get to ring the bells. Finally having all the Latin responses memorized and not having to use the altar boys altar cards. Fond, fond memories.
 
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brotherhrolf:
Wow, great pics. Brings back a lot of memories of being an altar boy back then. Going behind the altar to light all the candles for a solemn high mass. Arguing with the other altar boys to see who would get to ring the bells. Finally having all the Latin responses memorized and not having to use the altar boys altar cards. Fond, fond memories.
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Best of all, this is the Novus Ordo Mass, and it can be celebrated like this! Spread the word everyone!
 
👍 That is just awesome! If only, all NO masses were so reverently and beautifully celebrated.😦 I assure you, if that was the case, there would be no such thing as a priest shortage.

God Bless, Fr. Perrone. I wish he was invited to the up and coming synod being held by the Holy Father.

Maybe as a part of the agenda of the synod they could take a little trip to Detroit.:yup:
 
In the Archdiocese of Detroit, there are two other parishes that offer a Sunday Novus Ordo Latin Mass the same way, at a high altar ad orientem, but without a freestanding altar in front: Holy Family and St. Joseph, both downtown.

In fact, Fr. Perrone assisted at St. Joseph for many years before being appointed to Assumption Grotto. He published a book of sung Latin Preface settings that St. Joseph uses on the altar. Arguably, Fr. Perrone restored ad orientem celebration at Grotto based on his experience at St. Joseph. See the St. Joseph web site for more info: saint-joseph-detroit.org.

Holy Family has never had a freestanding altar, and to my knowledge, has never (or extremely rarely) celebrated a vernacular Mass. All daily and Sunday Masses are in Latin, and have been since the Council. They have no web site, however.

And we have a versus populum Latin Mass at Old St. Mary’s (where Fr. Perrone was music director in the 70s), plus our Tridentine Mass at St. Josaphat, and weekday Latin Masses at Our Lady of Mt. Carmel and Ss. Cyril and Methodius.

St. Joseph and St. Josaphat also offer weddings in Latin (Novus Ordo) celebrated ad orientem. I was married at St. Joseph in such a Mass, and another couple will be married at St. Josaphat on Sept. 23 in that manner.

Who would have thought that this liberal diocese would have these islands of Holy Tradition…
 
My mom lives near Detroit. Where is this place. I MUST visit this when I get back to Michigan next time. How far is it from…say…Waterford/Pontiac?
–Ann
 
Priests- in diocese or a religious order- CANNOT be penalized for saying the NO Mass in Latin or Ad Orientem.

Please correct me if i’m wrong.
 
Frank Roman:
Priests- in diocese or a religious order- CANNOT be penalized for saying the NO Mass in Latin or Ad Orientem.

Please correct me if i’m wrong.
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In theory they can’t be penalized. But a bishop could make their priestly life miserable if he wanted to.

James
 
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James0235:
In theory they can’t be penalized. But a bishop could make their priestly life miserable if he wanted to.

James
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probably same for a religious community?
 
Thank you so much Lux et Veritas! I would so like to have this somewhere in my diocese. :clapping:

Someone should write a book about this and start promoting it in our country. How can we get this to be more common?
 
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