Pictures of Gay Wedding

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Meemai said:
Biggest nonsense I have read this year. It may have some points. But in theory it does not work.

Because in this case.

Not looking at a gay wedding photo’s. What would be wrong with looking at them?

Well for instance people say it’s a gay wedding and gays sin and I do not want to look at a picture of sinners.

But let’s take a wedding picture of a heterosexual couple, the heterosexuals are sinners also they lie and probably sin at a daily basis. But nothing wrong with seeing they’re wedding pictures.

Thus I can conclude it has nothing to do with sin anymore but with gay or heterosexual.
Since a heterosexual sinner we still look at they’re wedding pics. In this case you can watch this tread as homophobic.

Yes I would look at those pictures. Who am I to think bad of it? I would only make sure that the 14 year old has not been forced to marry if so I would just call child protection.
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You seriously have no moral ground do you? I give up. Respectfully, I will no longer converse with you. Best of luck.
 
edwest2 said:
Scandal has become so common, it’s missed by some. Soberly, it would be a scandal.

Peace,
Ed
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Because some people do bad things, everyone shouldn’t be offended by bad things anymore. That seems to be the common theme these days.
 
nickybr38 said:
You seriously have no moral ground do you? I give up. Respectfully, I will no longer converse with you. Best of luck.
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I would like to have a moral ground.

But let’s look at the symptons of my personality disorder.
Schizoid personality disorder (SPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency towards a solitary lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, and apathy.

God made me this way. I hope you do reply to this however. Because I would like to know what you think of that. I am 100% honest about this I would want to know what you have to say about that.

Beause I struggle with it why God made me like this, if my mother and father would drop death right now I would not even have to cry. It’s how I’m made. Please reply.
 
nickybr38 said:
Because some people do bad things, everyone shouldn’t be offended by bad things anymore. That seems to be the common theme these days.
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That has to stop. It’s all good? No, it’s not. Neutral on this one is not a good idea.

How will we go to confession if we can no longer identify the good or bad for ourselves?

Peace,
Ed
 
edwest2 said:
That has to stop. It’s all good? No, it’s not. Neutral on this one is not a good idea.

How will we go to confession if we can no longer identify the good or bad for ourselves?

Peace,
Ed
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I think it’s a reflection of relativism. We should all just take care of ourselves and ignore everyone else’s sins.

Nevermind that Scripture commands us to keep our brothers and sisters in Christ in LINE. Nevermind that we’re supposed to be a family and family helps each other avoid sin.

Nevermind all that. Instead we’re just supposed to keep our nose in our own business and never, ever, ever, ever, speak out against or object to sin.
 
Meemai said:
I would like to have a moral ground.

But let’s look at the symptons of my personality disorder.
Schizoid personality disorder (SPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency towards a solitary lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, and apathy.

God made me this way. I hope you do reply to this however. Because I would like to know what you think of that. I am 100% honest about this I would want to know what you have to say about that.

Beause I struggle with it why God made me like this, if my mother and father would drop death right now I would not even have to cry. It’s how I’m made. Please reply.
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Dearest Meemai,

I will reply even though you were not addressing me. If you like more replies on this subject, maybe you would like to start another thread.

I am sorry you suffer from SPD. I’m sorry you desire to have a different way of feeling, a different way of addressing issues you encounter.

Do you have someone in the medical community that is helping you?

Do you take part in therapy to help you overcome the issues you dislike and want to change within yourself?

Do you have a spiritual advisor, a priest, or other person who helps you with your struggles on why God allows disorders and disease and unhappy things to happen?

God loves you very much.

God allows natural events to happen. Disorders and illness sometimes happen due to natural events - some times they are preventable and some are not.

I do not know anything about SPD.

We all have things about us that are different than someone else. Maybe you see the SPD as not allowing you to have the feelings that other people would have in the same situation. such as knowing you would not cry if your parents died right now. Maybe you want to experience feelings in another way.

I pray that God gives you Peace as you deal with the struggles of SPD.
 
RoseMary131 said:
Dearest Meemai,

I will reply even though you were not addressing me. If you like more replies on this subject, maybe you would like to start another thread.

I am sorry you suffer from SPD. I’m sorry you desire to have a different way of feeling, a different way of addressing issues you encounter.

Do you have someone in the medical community that is helping you?

Do you take part in therapy to help you overcome the issues you dislike and want to change within yourself?

Do you have a spiritual advisor, a priest, or other person who helps you with your struggles on why God allows disorders and disease and unhappy things to happen?

God loves you very much.

God allows natural events to happen. Disorders and illness sometimes happen due to natural events - some times they are preventable and some are not.

I do not know anything about SPD.

We all have things about us that are different than someone else. Maybe you see the SPD as not allowing you to have the feelings that other people would have in the same situation. such as knowing you would not cry if your parents died right now. Maybe you want to experience feelings in another way.

I pray that God gives you Peace as you deal with the struggles of SPD.
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Nope the medical community left me, they won’t help me anymore. The one I was in first was a to small corporation to help me so they dragged me over to another corporation which cannot place me I am already waiting for over 2 months and they won’t give me an ultimatum at which I could join so I might get help in december maybe…

I have a priest to talk with but he say I cannot really ask myself why God does it because I have to accept it but I can’t I feel like he has easy talking. Because he is alright.

God gave me a personality disorder, rheumatism and a skin decease, surely he loves me in a strange way.

I only have negative feelings within myself.

Thanks for replying though! I am happy you replied since no one else did.
 
Pug said:
I’d look at whatever was forcibly shoved under my nose and make some innocuous comment like, “Is this your sister from Arizona?” or “Towering cakes with goldfish!” or whatever. I’d omit any comment that could not be made sincerely. Typically there is a selection of family photos included that you can focus your gaze and remarks upon.
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I think this is one of the best pieces of advice so far. If he is adamant that you look at the pictures, you can always comment on something other than the marriage ceremony. It’s the same as if someone married in a situation in which one of the spouses was divorced (but not granted an annulment), or a civil marriage for non-practicing Catholics. The situation is the same, so treat it the same. You don’t want to create a hostile environment at work, and like it or not, that exactly what will happen if you insult your coworker. Keep it neutral. Being polite (or neutral) in no way equates to agreement; or accepting that which you don’t approve of. It’s the same as an unmarried mother showing pictures of her child. You can comment on the pictures without condoning what led up to it.
 
Meemai said:
I would like to have a moral ground.

But let’s look at the symptons of my personality disorder.
Schizoid personality disorder (SPD) is a personality disorder characterized by a lack of interest in social relationships, a tendency towards a solitary lifestyle, secretiveness, emotional coldness, and apathy.

God made me this way. I hope you do reply to this however. Because I would like to know what you think of that. I am 100% honest about this I would want to know what you have to say about that.

Beause I struggle with it why God made me like this, if my mother and father would drop death right now I would not even have to cry. It’s how I’m made. Please reply.
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Logically speaking, if you believe your convictions are being effected by a personality disorder (and it’s certainly quite possible they are), why are you trying to convince others who do not have that same disorder that your convictions are correct? SPD is a very rare diagnosis. It’s entirely likely that not a single other person looking at this thread has it, so that may be why we are having such a hard time accepting your view on the subject.

It’s true that all people are sinners. For instance, my little teenage cousin is a sinner. I would be happy to look at a video of her playing her clarinet, or graduating high school. However, I would have an extreme problem with looking at a video of her cutting herself, cussing out a classmate, or getting in a fight. It’s not that I have problems with pictures of sinners, but with pictures of sinning. I imagine if the OP’s coworker came in with pictures of himself and his new puppy, the OP would love to see it.

As to why you have a personality disorder, alot of that is a mystery. My brother and sister also have a personality disorder and it often hurts them as well as the rest of the family. I don’t know why some people have this difficulty, but I do know that it shows character when they strive to do the right thing, despite their inclination to do otherwise. I know it has made us stronger as a family in the long run and taught us all patience and tolerance.
 
Allegra said:
Logically speaking, if you believe your convictions are being effected by a personality disorder (and it’s certainly quite possible they are), why are you trying to convince others who do not have that same disorder that your convictions are correct? SPD is a very rare diagnosis. It’s entirely likely that not a single other person looking at this thread has it, so that may be why we are having such a hard time accepting your view on the subject.

It’s true that all people are sinners. For instance, my little teenage cousin is a sinner. I would be happy to look at a video of her playing her clarinet, or graduating high school. However, I would have an extreme problem with looking at a video of her cutting herself, cussing out a classmate, or getting in a fight. It’s not that I have problems with pictures of sinners, but with pictures of sinning. I imagine if the OP’s coworker came in with pictures of himself and his new puppy, the OP would love to see it.

As to why you have a personality disorder, alot of that is a mystery. My brother and sister also have a personality disorder and it often hurts them as well as the rest of the family. I don’t know why some people have this difficulty, but I do know that it shows character when they strive to do the right thing, despite their inclination to do otherwise. I know it has made us stronger as a family in the long run and taught us all patience and tolerance.
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You may be right, but if no one understands me. I might as well drive off a cliff. I am tired of life my man.

I can’t help but see God as cruel.
 
nickybr38 said:
I think it’s a reflection of relativism. We should all just take care of ourselves and ignore everyone else’s sins.

Nevermind that Scripture commands us to keep our brothers and sisters in Christ in LINE. Nevermind that we’re supposed to be a family and family helps each other avoid sin.

Nevermind all that. Instead we’re just supposed to keep our nose in our own business and never, ever, ever, ever, speak out against or object to sin.
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We, and me, must keep repeating the truth.

biblehub.com/ezekiel/33-8.htm

Meanwhile, I’m noticing 24/7 sin pouring out of most media.

Peace,
Ed
 
Meemai said:
You may be right, but if no one understands me. I might as well drive off a cliff. I am tired of life my man.

I can’t help but see God as cruel.
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I can tell you from vicarious experience, that is not the best choice. My brother tried it once and it had a devastating effect on the whole family. I think there are much better ways to find out how many people care about you, even if they don’t understand how you mind works. Fortunatly, my brother was given the opportunity to attempt other methods of self-expresssion after that little mishap. One of the things he does is help others, especially those who are in a similar situation to what he is in. He says that gives him alot of comfort and makes him feel important. He also spends time with family and friends, who he usually realizes are on his side, despite the fact that they don’t always “get him”. Unfortunately, the statistical percentage of cliff divers who are given the opportunity to try again. is extremely small.
 
Allegra said:
I can tell you from vicarious experience, that is not the best choice. My brother tried it once and it had a devastating effect on the whole family. I think there are much better ways to find out how many people care about you, even if they don’t understand how you mind works. Fortunatly, my brother was given the opportunity to attempt other methods of self-expresssion after that little mishap. One of the things he does is help others, especially those who are in a similar situation to what he is in. He says that gives him alot of comfort and makes him feel important. He also spends time with family and friends, who he usually realizes are on his side, despite the fact that they don’t always “get him”. Unfortunately, the statistical percentage of cliff divers who are given the opportunity to try again. is extremely small.
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Once took pills but threw them up. They make them so you throw them up it appears. But there’s something no one can help me with, with getting a study, with getting a job with standing on my own two legs. If I could have those two certainties I would be fine. But I do not have them so I rather die then fight.

there are clinics here where they end your life and you will prepare to end your life, but sadly I do not apply for them since I am not terminal ill I think.
 
Meemai said:
Once took pills but threw them up. They make them so you throw them up it appears. But there’s something no one can help me with, with getting a study, with getting a job with standing on my own two legs. If I could have those two certainties I would be fine. But I do not have them so I rather die then fight.

there are clinics here where they end your life and you will prepare to end your life, but sadly I do not apply for them since I am not terminal ill I think.
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Everyone is struggling for a livelihood these days. It’s hard when you are disabled. My brother also has difficulty finding work due to his mental illness as well as the added difficulty in that he can no longer stand on his own two legs. (a result of the aforementioned “incident”.) Right now, he is concentrating on his therapy as well as participating in events which raise money and awareness for the homeless an the mentally ill. He also helps counsel others who have recently become paralyzed. I know it is frustrating when you want to be getting on with your life (school and work) but it’s important to get your treatment in order before you start taking on too much. If you have an opportunity to get some medical help, I recomend you take it as soon as possible. I can’t help with resources in the Netherlands, but here there are organizations that help disabled people find jobs they are comfortable and capable in. I would hope there is something similar to that where you live.
 
Allegra said:
Everyone is struggling for a livelihood these days. It’s hard when you are disabled. My brother also has difficulty finding work due to his mental illness as well as the added difficulty in that he can no longer stand on his own two legs. (a result of the aforementioned “incident”.) Right now, he is concentrating on his therapy as well as participating in events which raise money and awareness for the homeless an the mentally ill. He also helps counsel others who have recently become paralyzed. I know it is frustrating when you want to be getting on with your life (school and work) but it’s important to get your treatment in order before you start taking on too much. If you have an opportunity to get some medical help, I recomend you take it as soon as possible. I can’t help with resources in the Netherlands, but here there are organizations that help disabled people find jobs they are comfortable and capable in. I would hope there is something similar to that where you live.
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Yes my rheumatism also can’t make me stand for long I understand the problems your brother is in. But where I am now at they don’t care about my treatment they want me to get back in life. If I get nothing the government will send me to a fabric where I have to do stupid stuff like close boxes with tape or stuff like that. I don’t wanna do that I got more capabalities. There’s not much organisations here. Sadly.
 
Meemai said:
Yes my rheumatism also can’t make me stand for long I understand the problems your brother is in. But where I am now at they don’t care about my treatment they want me to get back in life. If I get nothing the government will send me to a fabric where I have to do stupid stuff like close boxes with tape or stuff like that. I don’t wanna do that I got more capabalities. There’s not much organisations here. Sadly.
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I could give you a list of unfullfilling tasks I did in exchange for money before I got my degree. Here’s an inconclusive sample:

Shoveling snow off from flat roofs
Handing out warm cookies
Filing piles of transcript requests in alphabetical order
Unlocking a door at 4:15 PM and locking it again at 9PM. (Sit in a chair alone for the time in between)
Cleaning a bathroom daily that was almost never used
Stamping corporate symbols onto chocolate coins (using a machine that weighed a ton!)
Transfering data from one system to another
Filling tacos

You gotta do what you gotta do sometimes. If your job isn’t fullfilling your purpose, maybe it’s just providing your with the money you need to go out and fullfill your purpose. Not all purposes involve a living wage you know. There are alot of people out there who work to live and live to serve others. The world needs people who are willing to do that.
 
Well if asked to view the photos you have to make sure you don’t become an accessory by silence or consent.

So something like “I would rather not” or “I would not be very comfortable doing that” or “sorry I can’t really do that, I am sure you understand why. I do wish you all the best though.” then you can change the conversation to something else. I am sure you can come up with a reply like that suited to the man as you know him best. when you sense he is coming then just pray to the holy Spirit to guide you.
 
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