Planned Parenthood all out assault on SD

[mommyof4]

South Dakota posters - I will definitly be praying for you! I like the idea of the prayers you posted - I will say them for you! Please keep Iowa in your prayers, also, as many of us would love to have abortion eliminated in this state, too.

 

[Priscilla_Ann]

No thanks.

I live in South Dakota, and will be voting against the ban. I know of many Catholics who are also voting against the ban.

Women who can afford to will drive to another state for an abortion. The woman who are poor (like those on the Indian reservations) can’t afford to go out of state; those are the women the ban will really affect.

 

[c659smith]

Those Catholics voting aganist the ban would be in serious grave sin and out of communion with the chuch and the Pope. The

Catholic Church has always condemned abortion as a grave evil.
This is for anyone aiding and abetting as well

 

[Priscilla_Ann]

Those Catholics voting aganist the ban would be in serious grave sin and out of communion with the chuch and the Pope. The

Catholic Church has always condemned abortion as a grave evil.
This is for anyone aiding and abetting as well

When the fetus is in your body, then you can make that choice. Have you ever been the victim of date rape? I didn’t think so.

 

[davy39]

When the fetus is in your body, then you can make that choice. Have you ever been the victim of date rape? I didn’t think so.

I believe the term is “unborn baby”. I have read that a very, very small percentage of abortions are because of date rape.

 

[st_lucy]

When the fetus is in your body, then you can make that choice. Have you ever been the victim of date rape? I didn’t think so.

You know what I have been a victim of date rape and I still hold firm to the idea that abortion is murder. I have always felt that this was the lamest arguement for abortion. I am also by the way a product of a rape. And being so I am very glad my mother didn’t decided to get rid of me so easily.

Abortion is MURDER! Plain and simple

 

[c659smith]

So with that reasoning why not kill the mother of the rapist because she bore him.

Who are we punishing here. the rapist or the unborn life of a human child?

 

[LRThunder]

When the fetus is in your body, then you can make that choice. Have you ever been the victim of date rape? I didn’t think so.

But if you abort a baby that is a result of a date rape, aren’t you punishing an innocent person for the crimes of another?

Maybe that might work in non democratic countries, but that shouldn’t work here.

 

[c659smith]

Psalm 51:5
“Surely I was sinful at birth, sinful from the time my mother conceived me.”

Here the Bible states that David [and all mankind] were sinful at the moment of conception. Surely we could not use the term “sinful” to describe a piece of tissue that is not alive! To be “sinful” you would at least have to be alive! As humans we have inherited a sin nature [a.k.a. the flesh]. This sin nature was inherited at the moment of conception. A sinful nature is not found in “primordial tissue” that is without life. The term “sinner” refers then to those who are alive

 

[Priscilla_Ann]

You know what I have been a victim of date rape and I still hold firm to the idea that abortion is murder. I have always felt that this was the lamest arguement for abortion. I am also by the way a product of a rape. And being so I am very glad my mother didn’t decided to get rid of me so easily.

Abortion is MURDER! Plain and simple

I also was a victim of date rape…in October, 1978…28 years ago this month. Fortunately, it did not result in a pregnancy. If it had, I would have had the freedom to make a choice. I will not vote to take that choice away from other women.

 

[st_lucy]

I also was a victim of date rape…in October, 1978…28 years ago this month. Fortunately, it did not result in a pregnancy. If it had, I would have had the freedom to make a choice. I will not vote to take that choice away from other women.

And what about the Child? Does he not get the chance to live in your eyes? The rapiest has more rights than the child? The Child did nothing wrong. The only ones getting hurt in your senero is the Child and the Mother. One day that mother will realize that she killed another and I am sure non of the pro choice people will be there to comfort her.

Abortion is MURDER! Plain and simple!

 

[Bella3502]

And what about the Child? Does he not get the chance to live in your eyes? The rapiest has more rights than the child? The Child did nothing wrong. The only ones getting hurt in your senero is the Child and the Mother. One day that mother will realize that she killed another and I am sure non of the pro choice people will be there to comfort her.

Abortion is MURDER! Plain and simple!

There was no child… if you reread her post, there was no pregnancy.

 

[Priscilla_Ann]

And what about the Child? Does he not get the chance to live in your eyes? The rapiest has more rights than the child? The Child did nothing wrong. The only ones getting hurt in your senero is the Child and the Mother. One day that mother will realize that she killed another and I am sure non of the pro choice people will be there to comfort her.

Abortion is MURDER! Plain and simple!

You are free to make your choice, but why do you insist on forcing your choice on every other woman, regardless of her situation?

 

[st_lucy]

You are free to make your choice, but why do you insist on forcing your choice on every other woman, regardless of her situation?

You are right I am free to make my choice as are you. But who will side with the unborn. Why is he unable to have the same freedom of choice? I choose to side for him in anyway that I can and I say abortion is MURDER!

 

[Priscilla_Ann]

You are right I am free to make my choice as are you. But who will side with the unborn. Why is he unable to have the same freedom of choice? I choose to side for him in anyway that I can and I say abortion is MURDER!

Since you are so conscientious, I can only hope that you also side with those are are sick, hungry and homeless. Helping those people would be a genuine opportunity to be “pro-life”.

 

[c659smith]

If you disagree with the Bible which explains in clear text when life begins then go with the scientific evidence and reasoning.

Go with the law in all other legal aspects on killing a baby in the womb.

Is this a life in less than ten weeks when the heart of the baby starts beating. This is the period when 99% or after when most abortions occur.

If your answer is yes this is a seperate and distinct human being calpable scientifically to move, suck their thumb and feel pain.

If you agree with the laws of vehicular manslaughter when the unborn baby is killed due to a careless or drunk driver.

If you agree that killing of a pregnant woman results in the death of the baby, such as a famous recent California case where the husband was tried and convicted of not only killing his wife but of the unborn baby.

Then tell me when does the law call this human life

Only when the baby is wanted by the mother.

What kind of reasoning is this?

 

[st_lucy]

Since you are so conscientious, I can only hope that you also side with those are are sick, hungry and homeless. Helping those people would be a genuine opportunity to be “pro-life”.

My family does all of these when we can. I have taught my children to help those in need since they were very young. I probably don’t do as much as others but I do my best.

 

[Orionthehunter]

I also was a victim of date rape…in October, 1978…28 years ago this month. Fortunately, it did not result in a pregnancy. If it had, I would have had the freedom to make a choice. I will not vote to take that choice away from other women.

Abortion: Better known as the perpetrators of rape and incest protection act.

But Priscilla, I’m not sure I understand your point about taking away freedom. We do it all the time in civilized society to protect the innocent.

There are laws that crimininalizes the following behavior:

1. I can’t break and enter another’s home or steal their car.
2. I can’t deny to rent an apartment to someone because they are gay, Muslim or atheist.
3. I can’t have sex with 15 year old girls or boys. I can’t have sex w/ my own children.
4. I can’t drive without my seatbelt
5. I can’t buy alcohol for my own children to party with on my own land
6. I can’t use or sell methanphetamine

In all these cases, society has determined to take these actions to protect a member of society from the arbitrary and capricious acts of another. Think about it: On one hand, it is an issue of freedom for a mother to choose to kill her unborn baby but I assume it acceptable for a father to be denied the freedom to have sex with his daughter?

From Priscilla Ann: Since you are so conscientious, I can only hope that you also side with those are are sick, hungry and homeless. Helping those people would be a genuine opportunity to be “pro-life”.

It appears by this and your other comment you are trying to somehow imply that the poster might be anti-abortion but does nothing to help people in need. This appears to be uncharitable. I’m sure that is not what you are charging so you might want to clear it up.

 

[Priscilla_Ann]

My family does all of these when we can. I have taught my children to help those in need since they were very young. I probably don’t do as much as others but I do my best.

I’m delighted that you feel it is important to help those in need. I personally know of many “pro-life” people who are anti-abortion, but neglect the needs of those who are sick, poor or homeless.

 

[st_lucy]

I’m delighted that you feel it is important to help those in need. I personally know of many “pro-life” people who are anti-abortion, but neglect the needs of those who are sick, poor or homeless.

I am really sorry to hear that you have come across these kind of people. They are really wolves in sheeps clothing. When I was pro-choice, it was the living testimony of those pro-life people that changed my mind. I came to realize that they are not only in the forfront of the pro-life debate but they also lived it, through charity. Mother Teresa always comes to mind. How can someone who saw so much saddnes be so pro life?