Planned Parenthood: Cardinal O'Malley Out of Step w Catholics

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Boston, MA – It’s no surprise that Catholic Church officials take pro-abortion politicians or groups to task for saying they are out of step with pro-life Catholic teachings. Now, a Planned parenthood CE in Massachusetts is turning the tables and claiming Cardinal Sean O’Malley of Boston is out of step with his membership.

Full story: lifenews.com/state3656.html
 
Ms. Luby (non-aborted, I note), is using a very effective tactic that has been used historically to great effect by the world’s most powerful leaders: The Big Lie. Not surprising. Also not surprising that she declined to comment on the racist origins of PP.
 
If anything, aren’t a lot of pewsitting Catholics out of touch with the teachings of their Church?
 
Obama’s election has driven a sharp wedge into the body of American Catholicism. While many Catholics oppose Obama as the dreaded ‘Abortion President’, many others celebrate him as the first Black president, e.g., the champion of *The Traditional Underdog. * So…what takes priority – protection of the unborn, or minority-ascendancy in American thought, culture and politics? This is a sticky issue, to be sure. I suspect many won’t touch it with a ten-foot pole.
 
po18guy said:
Not surprising. Also not surprising that she declined to comment on the racist origins of PP.
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Probably because it is a red herring. The racist origins of the United States doesn’t automatically invalidate its current activities, the same is true for Planned Parenthood.

I wonder if, nationally, Planned Parenthood will push back if the US Bishops launch their planned campaign to make abortion a bigger political issue? The Massachusetts chapter seems to be using an interesting tactic, trying to drive a wedge between Church leadership and their flock. Of course, this tactic would work only on “cafeteria Catholics”, but it might sway politicians if they see daylight between the bishops and the faithful.
 
KingAlfred said:
Obama’s election has driven a sharp wedge into the body of American Catholicism. While many Catholics oppose Obama as the dreaded ‘Abortion President’, many others celebrate him as the first Black president, e.g., the champion of *The Traditional Underdog. * So…what takes priority – protection of the unborn, or minority-ascendancy in American thought, culture and politics? This is a sticky issue, to be sure. I suspect many won’t touch it with a ten-foot pole.
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Rhetorical question, right? It’s a sticky issue when it comes to opinions and emotions, but it’s pretty cut and dry when it comes to the truth.
 
bookgirl32 said:
Rhetorical question, right? It’s a sticky issue when it comes to opinions and emotions, but it’s pretty cut and dry when it comes to the truth.
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How Obama’s personale ascendency will improve the lot of blacks in general is hard to see. About as much, I think, as
Disraeli’s rise to the top helped England’s Jews.
 
Dale_M said:
Probably because it is a red herring. The racist origins of the United States doesn’t automatically invalidate its current activities, the same is true for Planned Parenthood.

I wonder if, nationally, Planned Parenthood will push back if the US Bishops launch their planned campaign to make abortion a bigger political issue? The Massachusetts chapter seems to be using an interesting tactic, trying to drive a wedge between Church leadership and their flock. Of course, this tactic would work only on “cafeteria Catholics”, but it might sway politicians if they see daylight between the bishops and the faithful.
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I don’t buy the comparison, because racism was contrary to American’s founding principles while it is very much in line with
Palnnaed Parenthood’s efforts to extend its services to a black community which is already savaged by a high abortion rate.

But I take your point about the reaction of Planned Parenthood.'s tactics. I do think, howeever they under estimate the number of Catholics who will oppose FOCA if properly informed about the issue. I am optimistic despite the sloth of the bishops in the past that they will shake loose of the grip of their liberal advisors. Unrealistically, I think their first step should be to dissolve the USSCB, which more than anything else is a creature of the Great Society mentality of the '70s.
 
RobbyS said:
I don’t buy the comparison, because racism was contrary to American’s founding principles
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I think you may be forgetting that the US Constitution recognized slavery - it took a few decades (and a very bloody war) to rectify that problem.
 
Dale_M said:
I think you may be forgetting that the US Constitution recognized slavery - it took a few decades (and a very bloody war) to rectify that problem.
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The Constitution established our present form of Government. It did not found the United States. Notice the preamble: …to form a more perfect union. In 1863, Lincolns reached back to the declaration to the notion of personal liberty as a right antecedent to the 1787 Constitution. The arrangement with the slave states may be seen as a retreat from the original objectives of the Founding Fathers, to most of whom black slavery and white servitude were an embarrasement, because already the English nation had challenged the necessity of an institution that went back to the dawn of history and had begun to think of it as an intolerable injustice.
 
Let’s not forget also that Planned Parenthood and/or its directors explicitly support forced sterilization (as well as abortion -needless to say) of poor people in Third-World countries. Of course, the socio-politically correct revisionism of modernism would not say it is “forced” like it was when the Nazis did it (i.e., under a gun). After all, they say, we offer them a “choice” - we will give you economic relief IF you agree to be sterilized or have an abortion.:rolleyes: Planned Parenthood supporters are Nazis, and their ideology today has not changed in maintaining disrespect for people not considered as among the elite (whether by basis of race or economic status).

As brother Robby has already touched upon, unlike the foundational elitist principles infecting Planned Parenthood, racism was NOT foundational to the origins of the United States. Planned Parenthood and its policies, on the other hand, has remained true to its evil origins.

Blessings,
Marduk
 
Dale_M said:
Probably because it is a red herring. The racist origins of the United States doesn’t automatically invalidate its current activities, the same is true for Planned Parenthood.
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It is most certainly not a red herring. It was a direct charge that she deliberately sidestepped. She obfuscated and tried to place the Cardinal on the defensive. She did neither address, nor refute his charge, which is 100% true. This is the very mark of guilt.

Read about PP founder Margaret Sanger. Please read her story. Examine her goals and objectives. Now, look at the percentage of black, hispanic and “poor white” babies aborted. This is third reich eugenics at its legal and immoral best.

PP would have gladly aborted Padre Pio because they were Catholic, had a large family and were dirt poor. The organization accomplishes evil because it was founded upon evil precepts.
 
RobbyS said:
The Constitution established our present form of Government. It did not found the United States.
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Yes, but no objection to slavery was made in the Articles of Confederation. Our country was founded with slavery as an institution.
In 1784 (during the period the US was governed by the Articles of Confederation), five years before he became president of the United States, George Washington, 52, was nearly toothless. So he hired a dentist to transplant nine teeth into his jaw–having extracted them from the mouths of his slaves.
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Patrick Henry and Richard Henry Lee, both signers of the Declaration of Independence, traded and whipped their slaves. James Monroe, after a show trial, executed 30 slaves for an attempted rebellion. Thomas Jefferson not only owned slaves, he extended the number of slave states during his presidency.
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RobbyS:
The arrangement with the slave states may be seen as a retreat from the original objectives of the Founding Fathers, to most of whom black slavery and white servitude were an embarrasement, because already the English nation had challenged the necessity of an institution that went back to the dawn of history and had begun to think of it as an intolerable injustice.
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The founding fathers have a very mixed record when it comes to slavery. Yes, some of them were staunchly opposed to it. But they didn’t prevail when the laws of our country were drafted. Many founding fathers directly benefited from slavery. George Washington, for example, freed his slaves, but only after he died.

We’re getting off-topic, but I am amazed that this needs discussing.
 
The Catholic Church has been against abortion for about 2,000 years now. Most of the world is anti-abortion. Even in countries that attempt to sell abortion even in public schools, the percentage that can actually believe abortion is legitimate hovers at half or less, whereas 90% or more can be taught from their youth that abortion is always wrong. Thus, by looking at the child, and what they can logically accept, in this instance, we clearly see that abortion is evil. Similarly, we can see that every child desires both a mother and a father. Also an important consideration in this day and age, that is nonetheless, denied by many people in positions of authority.
 
I beleive it was Dr. Benard Nathanson, who after converting to the PL cause expressed the biggest obstacle to RvW was the Catholic Church, so he and his proabort chums simply churned out some false figures and studies claiming 89% of Catholics beleive abortion is a matter between teh woman and her doctor.

If people had questioned the validity of that claim in the 70s abortion might not have been legalised and the 60 million children who have been murdered since would be doing great thigns for this world.

Though it concerns me greatly a good deal of Catholics and PLers voted for Obama beacuse of his skin colour, that he wasn’t a Bush clone and all without knowing squat about his Pro-Abortion ways. While not an American, I have done my utmost to inform those who could vote in the American elections, including my so called PL, Catholic, American sister in law… who still voted Obama.
 
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