Please don't get involved with Mormonism

[PaulDupre]

Zerinus is a well known round here for being blindly and zealously Mormon. Some would go so far as to say rabidly Mormon.

Pay Zerinus no mind; Z. has a compulsivity to post his belief that “Mormonism is truth” every chance he gets.

Not only that, but Zerinus consistently denies most commonly held Mormon beliefs, even the ones documented on the official Church website and in their current religious education manuals.

 

[PattyPryor]

Not only that, but Zerinus consistently denies most commonly held Mormon beliefs, even the ones documented on the official Church website and in their current religious education manuals.

Well, he is very hurtful and thinks I am weird because I left Mormonism only after a few months. Trust me it doesn’t take long to mess someone up!

 

[PaulDupre]

Well, he is very hurtful and thinks I am weird because I left Mormonism only after a few months. Trust me it doesn’t take long to mess someone up!

Some people like you, when they step in a pile of poop, recognize it right away. Some of us took longer.

God love you,
Paul

 

[CarolinNC]

I am also a former Mormon. It does take time to grieve the time you spent in the Mormon Church. It is right to grieve when something dies, even when it isn’t the truth.

Mormonisim is part of the first lie told to Adam & Eve and they even believed it, even though they knew God face to face.

Do you remember what the first great lie was???

The Serpent said eat the fruit and you will become like God.
The Mormons say if you are a faithful mormon, you will become a god.

God bless you and keep you.

 

[why_me]

I wouldn’t say that mormons are brainwashed but the message within mormonism is very powerful and convincing. It is not uncommon for those who leave the faith to have averse reactions for a time. But it is not because of brainwashing but for other reasons.

The catholic faith is a good faith. If practiced properly, it can give fullness to an empty life. Also, the social message within catholicism is very powerful and good. But the mormon message is also good. Live the commandments and choose the right. Nothing wrong in that. For catholics it is rather the same. Follow the path to holiness and live life like a saint. Nothing wrong in that either.

 

[VWcrazy]

Mormonism is complete and total apostacy from Christianity.

 

[RebeccaJ]

The catholic faith is a good faith. If practiced properly, it can give fullness to an empty life. Also, the social message within catholicism is very powerful and good. But the mormon message is also good. Live the commandments and choose the right. Nothing wrong in that. For catholics it is rather the same. Follow the path to holiness and live life like a saint. Nothing wrong in that either.

Neither church allows for such relativism.

 

[AMDGtoo]

the mormon message is also good. Live the commandments and choose the right.

But the Mormon message isn’t just about following the commandments and choosing the right. There’s the "you must give 10% of all blessings to the LDS whether it is a hardship or not (and if it results in financial problems … well just think that of all the blessings the sacrifice will bring). Then there’s the following the Word of Wisdom (avoiding hot drinks–which is now supposed to be coffee and tea, although some think it also includes anything with caffeine in it–and more.) Being Mormon also means being “pressed into service” regularly–often at the expense of health and family (Mormons call them “callings” but it’s the same thing.) Speaking of family, if part of the family happens to be non-Mormon, well, the Mormon will be encouraged not to have much to do with them. And then there’s the problem of mental health–(seems that there seems to be an increased amount of anti-depressants used by women in the Mormon states). Don’t know exactly why–the financial and family hardship, the fact that women are treated as “less than”, or the prying eyes of the Mormon ward who actually send out people to spy and report back…

No, this definitely is not a “good”.

 

[Donna_Mc]

Welcome home Patty! I feel sad that you get shunned when leaving the church. I have a friend who became Mormon back
when we were teenagers, she was Catholic but her family did not go to church. She never really learned about what she was leaving. At one point she introduced me to her church friends, some of whom were very nice and some who made nasty remarks about the Catholic church when we were in a car driving by one. I pray for her to come back to the church that she never really knew. I feel sad knowing all she has missed out on with her Catholic faith. When she was married in the temple, her life-long best friend had to stand outside of the temple dressed in her bridesmaid gown. A few weeks later her parents had a reception and she walked in wearing her bridal gown. I was sad that I could not be there to see her married. A few years before she had been in my Catholic parish and was able to share such an important day in my life with me. Please continue to learn and study about the Catholic faith, EWTN and especially Catholic radio along with reading will help you to continue to grow in your faith. You have done the right thing, God bless you!

 

[why_me]

Neither church allows for such relativism.

I would say that neither church allows for relativism but what I wrote in my previous post is right on. I have read many catholic magazines to see the emphasis on living as a saint and many more articles on the social perspective within catholicism.

Also both churches also have the same moral perspective (which is very good) but within mormonism it is more implemented among the membership than within the catholic membership. At least this is my observation.

 

[Jerusha]

Also both churches also have the same moral perspective (which is very good) but within mormonism it is more implemented among the membership than within the catholic membership. At least this is my observation.

Same moral perspective???

I see Catholics who do not gossip, who fight racism, who help the poor, who help the unwed mothers, who regularly confess their sins (instead of covering them up). They renew their baptism and confirmation daily, and seek to follow their consciences (rather than their leaders), they have a deep concern for their own sinful natures, and know that seeking to be closer to God will convert more than religious debates, they practice self-control rather than prohibition.

That is not the Mormon moral perspective. I have no understanding about where you are coming from.

This is MY observation.

 

[RebeccaJ]

I would say that neither church allows for relativism but what I wrote in my previous post is right on. I have read many catholic magazines to see the emphasis on living as a saint and many more articles on the social perspective within catholicism.

Also both churches also have the same moral perspective (which is very good) but within mormonism it is more implemented among the membership than within the catholic membership. At least this is my observation.

whyme, the Catholic position is that there is good in all belief systems, that good coming from God. However, as Catholics, we are called to evangelize, not because we believe people are bad or evil, but to bring them to Christ.

Mormonism is far from the truth, and to tell people here or anywhere that it is good, therefore you don’t need to search for the truth, is not doing anyone a good deed. They have turned truth on its head, actually. I know you choose not see this, you ignore key doctrines.

Paul warned us to not measure our success by the measurements of men. Did you catch that in the readings at Mass on Sunday?

There are many points where the two churches align on morals. There are also points where they are very far apart. Polygamy, abortion and artificial birth control to start with are immoral.

 

[why_me]

Same moral perspective???

I see Catholics who do not gossip, who fight racism, who help the poor, who help the unwed mothers, who regularly confess their sins (instead of covering them up). They renew their baptism and confirmation daily, and seek to follow their consciences (rather than their leaders), they have a deep concern for their own sinful natures, and know that seeking to be closer to God will convert more than religious debates, they practice self-control rather than prohibition.

That is not the Mormon moral perspective. I have no understanding about where you are coming from.

This is MY observation.

I know of mormons who do the same thing except for renewing their confirmation. But mormons can remember their baptism and not renew it. And mormons certainly have a concern for their sinful nature and they are constantly told to be an example for others to follow. And so, both faiths seem to be on the same track in many areas.

I would disagree however with the idea that catholics should follow their conscience. I think that this is wrong and the catholic church does not teach such a thing. In the catholic newspaper from the vatican, there are always articles by the pope where he gives advice and understanding for catholics to read. And catholics are expected to follow the pope’s counsel as they are expected to follow the priest’s counsel after confession.

 

[why_me]

whyme, the Catholic position is that there is good in all belief systems, that good coming from God. However, as Catholics, we are called to evangelize, not because we believe people are bad or evil, but to bring them to Christ.

Mormonism is far from the truth, and to tell people here or anywhere that it is good, therefore you don’t need to search for the truth, is not doing anyone a good deed. They have turned truth on its head, actually. I know you choose not see this, you ignore key doctrines.

Paul warned us to not measure our success by the measurements of men. Did you catch that in the readings at Mass on Sunday?

There are many points where the two churches align on morals. There are also points where they are very far apart. Polygamy, abortion and artificial birth control to start with are immoral.

I understand you very well. Both churches cannot agree on everything but both seem to have the same formula to get to heaven: to live life with god and to obey the commandments as best as possible. And when one commits sin, confess those sins. Of course, for mormons, most sins are confessed directly to god with severe sins as the exception to this rule but both churches believe in repentance for remission of sins. What is important is the stress on perfection and obedience. Both churches seem to be into that.

Personally I dislike the word obedience but I hear it at times in the catholic church and quite often in the mormon church.

What I am trying to say is: Much worse can happen to an individual than to join the mormons.

 

[zaffiroborant]

Of course, for mormons, most sins are confessed directly to god with severe sins as the exception to this rule but both churches believe in repentance for remission of sins.

I think again LDS have a different definition of the word repentance.

 

[Jerusha]

In the catholic newspaper from the vatican, there are always articles by the pope where he gives advice and understanding for catholics to read. And catholics are expected to follow the pope’s counsel as they are expected to follow the priest’s counsel after confession.

Following the counsel of a spiritual advisor is much different from slavish obedience.

 

[AMDGtoo]

But mormons can remember their baptism and not renew it.

Everytime a Catholic signs himself with Holy Water, he is “remembering” his Baptism. At every Mass, when he/she says the “Creed” he/she is remembering his/her Baptismal promises. And every Easter (as well as at any Baptisms he/she attends) he/she renews his/her Baptismal promises (the ones his/her parents spoke for him when he/she was an infant.)

I would disagree however with the idea that catholics should follow their conscience. I think that this is wrong and the catholic church does not teach such a thing.

I suggest you do some more reading because the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 1782) does indicate that man has the right to act in conscience. Of course the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 1783-1785 explains that it is a correctly formed conscience and how that comes about.

 

[RebeccaJ]

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Personally I dislike the word obedience but I hear it at times in the catholic church and quite often in the mormon church.

lol whyme, no surprise there, as obedience implies you are listening and following, out of love for our Lord and Master (not a man claiming to be a prophet)…which doesn’t always mean doing what “feels good”.

Reducing Christ’s Sacrifice and our Redemption to a formula, is rather unfortunate.

 

[lizs1988]

I personally don’t believe you ever had a testimony because if you did you would never have left the Mormon Church. God is calling you back to the Mormon church. I suggest you talk to your local bishop and read the scriptures tonight. You may see differently

 

[CTA1967]

I personally don’t believe you ever had a testimony because if you did you would never have left the Mormon Church. God is calling you back to the Mormon church. I suggest you talk to your local bishop and read the scriptures tonight. You may see differently

I really don’t understand you. You’re expecting us to read Mormon literature while not reading Catholic literature yourself with the excuse that your parents told you not to. If you’re going to ask things of other people you should try to do something in return.