Please share any writings/documents you know written by Cardinal Bergoglio - now Pope Francis!

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mgsk said:
That participating in the lighting of a menorah would be, at best, unwise. Especially for a Catholic Cardinal. I’m not sure why this is even slightly controversial on a Catholic forum.

I’m not the one that brought it up, but I did hope to point out that its irrational defense was…well, irrational.

Having said that, I have great hope for Pope Francis’ papacy.
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And the constant teaching you cited? Specifically relating to this circumstance?
 
mgsk said:
For what it’s worth, his Wikipedia entry mentioned that he distanced himself from Liberation Theology pretty early on in his career. So that’s a plus!
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Thanks, that is good news.

Choliks, in the Eastern Rite Catholics forum, posted this:

Quoted from an Eastern Catholic source:

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Patriarch Sviatoslav on Pope Francis:

"I would first like to say that the newly elected Pope Francis was mentored by one of our priests, Stepan Chmil who is now buried in the basilica of St. Sophia in Rome. Today’s Pope, during his time as a student of the Salesian school, awoke many hours before his classmates to concelebrate at our Divine Liturgy with Fr. Stepan. He knows our Tradition very well, as well as our Liturgy.

The last time I had an opportunity to see him was as I was preparing to leave Argentina for Ukraine. I asked him to bear witness to the process of beatifying Fr. Stepan Chmil, to which, he gladly agreed. The Holy Father very well knows not only of our Church, but also our liturgy, our rites, and our spirituality.

Apart from this, Pope Francis, as archbishop of Buenos Aires, was assigned as ordinary for Eastern Catholics, specifically those who at the time did not have members of their own hierarchy. Our Eparchy in Argentina is, let’s say, suffragan to the Archbishop’s seat of Buenos Aires. In this way, Cardinal Bergoglio, always took care of our Church in Argentina; and as a young bishop, I took my first steps in episcopal ministry under his watchful eyes and help. Because of this, I am positive that the Holy Father will be a great help to our Church, and I expect that great things await our Church with this Pope.

In regards to the personality of the new Holy Father - he is an incredibly modest person. For example, as archbishop of Buenos Aires, he never relied on his own automobile, rather relying on public transportation, always in simple clothing. He mostly stands out in his enormous care for the less-fortunate, visiting the most impoverished neighborhoods. He is a person, I would say, of great pastoral foundation.

As a Jesuit, Pope Francis is an incredibly deep intellectual. I can attest to the fact that his homilies are quite short, sometimes no longer than five or six sentences, but he manages to fill them with such deep meaning, always leaving the faithful in silent contemplation upwards of five-to-seven minutes."
 
thunderboom said:
Omg the Pope respects the Jewish faith! He must be a wolf in sheep’s clothing! :rolleyes: Get a grip people…
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I expected immediate criticisms from the MSM. I suppose it was too much to hope that Catholics would show some respect.
 
mgsk said:
It’s probably not the time to be posting these videos, but not every ecumenical action is above reproach either. At best, this was an unwise gesture on his part.

Plus there’s an immense difference between respecting Judaism and taking part in their religious ceremonies (especially as a non-Jew).
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Our faith derives from Judaism. There’s nothing wrong with being at a Jewish ceremony. I’ve been to a seder myself, and study with a rabbi. Is that “unwise”?

Gimme a break…
 
msokeefe said:
Kneels to receive protestant blessing

traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A306rcBergoglioBless.html
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One of those blessing him was a Capuchin priest.
BluesPicker said:
Thanks, that is good news.

Quote:
Patriarch Sviatoslav on Pope Francis:

"I would first like to say that the newly elected Pope Francis was mentored by one of our priests, Stepan Chmil who is now buried in the basilica of St. Sophia in Rome. Today’s Pope, during his time as a student of the Salesian school, awoke many hours before his classmates to concelebrate at our Divine Liturgy with Fr. Stepan. He knows our Tradition very well, as well as our Liturgy.

Apart from this, Pope Francis, as archbishop of Buenos Aires, was assigned as ordinary for Eastern Catholics, specifically those who at the time did not have members of their own hierarchy. Our Eparchy in Argentina is, let’s say, suffragan to the Archbishop’s seat of Buenos Aires. In this way, Cardinal Bergoglio, always took care of our Church in Argentina; and as a young bishop, I took my first steps in episcopal ministry under his watchful eyes and help. Because of this, I am positive that the Holy Father will be a great help to our Church, and I expect that great things await our Church with this Pope.
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This is true. He was ordinary to the Eastern Catholic Churches and understands Eastern theology and spirituality well.

I am beginning to see what a great man this person is.

-Tim-
 
msokeefe said:
Kneels to receive protestant blessing

traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A306rcBergoglioBless.html
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One of those blessing him was a Capuchin priest.
BluesPicker said:
Thanks, that is good news.

Quote:
Patriarch Sviatoslav on Pope Francis:

"I would first like to say that the newly elected Pope Francis was mentored by one of our priests, Stepan Chmil who is now buried in the basilica of St. Sophia in Rome. Today’s Pope, during his time as a student of the Salesian school, awoke many hours before his classmates to concelebrate at our Divine Liturgy with Fr. Stepan. He knows our Tradition very well, as well as our Liturgy.

Apart from this, Pope Francis, as archbishop of Buenos Aires, was assigned as ordinary for Eastern Catholics, specifically those who at the time did not have members of their own hierarchy. Our Eparchy in Argentina is, let’s say, suffragan to the Archbishop’s seat of Buenos Aires. In this way, Cardinal Bergoglio, always took care of our Church in Argentina; and as a young bishop, I took my first steps in episcopal ministry under his watchful eyes and help. Because of this, I am positive that the Holy Father will be a great help to our Church, and I expect that great things await our Church with this Pope.
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This is true. He was ordinary to the Eastern Catholic Churches and understands Eastern theology and spirituality well.

I am beginning to see what a great man he is.

-Tim-
 
bolinstephen said:
I disagree. If we Catholics claim to have the fullness of faith to the exclusion of Jewish traditions we are sorely mistaken. There is much truth to be celebrating in the Jewish Tradition. Jesus was a Jew! If he respects the tradition, so do I.
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Do you insist that we must all get an actual circumcision then? Or purity laws? Or that Christ was a false messiah (like many around that time) and the real true messiah is yet to come?
 
triumphguy said:
This is pretty eloquent:
http://i48.tinypic.com/116v1it.jpg

Maybe like St. Francis he preaches by his actions more than his words.
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The classic problem with speaking with ACTIONS is that it is AMBIGUOUS. Words are sometimes hard to grasp with ambiguity. Actions even more so.

Also I don’t think St. Francis used any less words. The Church was not like this back in the day and St. Francis certainly used a lot of words.
 
Eufrosnia said:
The classic problem with speaking with ACTIONS is that it is AMBIGUOUS. Words are sometimes hard to grasp with ambiguity. Actions even more so.

Also I don’t think St. Francis used any less words. The Church was not like this back in the day and St. Francis certainly used a lot of words.
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Not much ambiguous in this picture.
 
Eufrosnia said:
The classic problem with speaking with ACTIONS is that it is AMBIGUOUS. Words are sometimes hard to grasp with ambiguity. Actions even more so.

Also I don’t think St. Francis used any less words. The Church was not like this back in the day and St. Francis certainly used a lot of words.
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It’s only ambiguous when someone else does it.

When Christ calls YOU to walk into a pediatric cancer ward and kiss the feet of an eight year old girl with Leukemia, or asks YOU to carry her to the toilet, or asks YOU to help her parents pick out a casket, then it becomes CRYSTAL clear.

St. Francis sold the missal to buy food for people dying of starvation in the streets. Have you not ever opened the Bible?

If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal. (1 Corinthians 13:1)

Are those unambiguous enough words?

-Tim-
 
TimothyH said:
It’s only ambiguous when someone else does it.

When Christ calls YOU to walk into a pediatric cancer ward and kiss the feet of an eight year old girl with Leukemia, or asks YOU to carry her to the toilet, or asks YOU to help her parents pick out a casket, then it becomes CRYSTAL clear.

St. Francis sold the missal to buy food for people dying of starvation in the streets. Have you not ever opened the Bible?

If I speak in human and angelic tongues but do not have love, I am a resounding gong or a clashing cymbal. (1 Corinthians 13:1)

Are those unambiguous enough words?

-Tim-
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Actions are ambiguous when ANYONE does it. Including Christ. If it was not so ambiguous, it will be obvious to everyone that there is only one true Church, the Catholic Church. We wouldn’t have Protestants, Orthodox who interpret what Christ meant from what he did in various ways etc.

It is kind of ironic that to justify your own position, you then proceeded on to quote words to support yourself.

If a person just goes and helps the poor, it tells nothing other than just that. The person might be doing it for fame, tax cuts, just because it gives them a thrill, or whatever. It is only when you SAY or WRITE why that people know.

So no, actions are certainly ambiguous. All you need to know that is look at how many Christian denominations there are today that interpret what Jesus did to match their own needs.

P.S. The quote you made speaks of the importance of Love. It does not say words should not be used. Words have to be used WITH love. People who don’t use words, just confuse the hell out of everyone.

Take the example of now Pope Francis visiting those with Aids and washing their feet. Initially, the media said that this probably because he is pro-contraception. It took more clarification in terms of things he had said or written to clarify that it is not the case. So I think that this “actions speak louder than words” is the biggest intellectual looking sham of the 21st century.
 
triumphguy said:
Not much ambiguous in this picture.
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Really? How do you know what he is doing?

Maybe he is doing it for fame? Maybe he is doing it because it just makes him happy? Maybe its because he follows a Buddhist like philosophy where doing good can wipe out his own sins? Or maybe he is saying “your parents should have used contraception so that you wouldn’t be born with diseases like HIV?” etc.

Unless one states what they stand for, what they do is ambiguous.
 
I thought this thread was going to be aa nice collection of links but here it’s mostly commentary. 😉

Here is one article peppered with a few nice quotes from our new Holy Father:

Go Forth and Baptize. The Wager of the Argentine Church

Here are a few of the quotes:

“The child has no responsibility for the condition of his parents’ marriage. The baptism of children can, on the contrary, become a new beginning for the parents. A while ago, I baptized the seven children of one woman, a poor widow who works as a maid and had her children by two different men. I met her on the feast of Saint Cajetan. She said to me, 'Father, I am in mortal sin, I have seven children and have never had them baptized, I don’t have the money for the godparents and for the party… I saw her again and after a little catechesis I baptized them in the chapel of the archepiscopal residence. The woman said to me, ‘Father, I can’t believe it, you make me feel important’. I said to her, 'But madam, what do I have to do with it? It’s Jesus who makes you important.”

And

“The conference in Aparecida urged us to proclaim the Gospel by going to meet the people, not by waiting for the people to come to us. Missionary fervor does not require extraordinary events. It is in ordinary life that mission work is done. And baptism, in this, is paradigmatic. The sacraments are for the life of men and women as they are. They may not make big speeches, but their ‘sensus fidei’ grasps the reality of the sacraments with more clarity than many specialists do.”

I like him already. 🙂 I feel in a unique situation right now. I grew up knowing John Paul II and I was already so familiar with Benedict before he was ever elected. Now here I am with a pope I hardly know. But I’m enjoying the process of learning. I hope this thread can turn into a nice storehouse of quotes and enecdotes about Pope Francis.
 
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