Plenary Indulgences: Rosary and Adoration
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LittleFlower378
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I wouldn’t worry about the time, but more about the heart.
Tis_Bearself
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I don’t know what kind of rosary you say that you get done in 15 minutes. It almost always takes me nearly a half hour including the beginning and ending prayers, meditating on the Mysteries, and the Fatima Prayers in between the decades. Each of the activities is supposed to last about a half hour.
I suppose one could finish a rosary in 15 minutes if you rushed through it and didn’t say the beginning or ending prayers but I haven’t finished a Rosary in 15 minutes since I was a kid and raced through them to get done.
I don’t know what kind of rosary you say that you get done in 15 minutes. It almost always takes me nearly a half hour including the beginning and ending prayers, meditating on the Mysteries, and the Fatima Prayers in between the decades. Each of the activities is supposed to last about a half hour.
I suppose one could finish a rosary in 15 minutes if you rushed through it and didn’t say the beginning or ending prayers but I haven’t finished a Rosary in 15 minutes since I was a kid and raced through them to get done.
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friardchips
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It is advisable to spend an hour when you can in private adoration, also.
Fifteen minutes is fine when praying the prayers and contemplating the words; more time than that, is usual, if one were to say the prayers with ‘prolonged’ meditation on the Holy Mysteries. But there are no hard and fast rules, except for the guidelines set out as applicable for certain devotions.
Some people say all five decades, and some pray a decade. I think to pray all five are best. But if only time for one decade, go for it.
As said, in some devotions, time plays an important part e.g:- First Saturdays specify minimum time requirement for the prayers. Time, playing a part, because, outward expression is a part of our faith, as human beings alive in a temporal existence. However, if one accidently spent fourteen minutes praying, instead of the required minimum, I would expect that one’s initial intention, to pray for the minimum amount of time, would be taken into consideration. If you forgot and could only pray for one minute then one would presumably offer that up. So, time can play a part.
Comparing power, is not necessary, as all is in God, for God. Our Lady’s intercession is present, for the Church, whether we are in attendance at Adoration, or praying the Rosary.
Fifteen minutes is fine when praying the prayers and contemplating the words; more time than that, is usual, if one were to say the prayers with ‘prolonged’ meditation on the Holy Mysteries. But there are no hard and fast rules, except for the guidelines set out as applicable for certain devotions.
Some people say all five decades, and some pray a decade. I think to pray all five are best. But if only time for one decade, go for it.
As said, in some devotions, time plays an important part e.g:- First Saturdays specify minimum time requirement for the prayers. Time, playing a part, because, outward expression is a part of our faith, as human beings alive in a temporal existence. However, if one accidently spent fourteen minutes praying, instead of the required minimum, I would expect that one’s initial intention, to pray for the minimum amount of time, would be taken into consideration. If you forgot and could only pray for one minute then one would presumably offer that up. So, time can play a part.
Comparing power, is not necessary, as all is in God, for God. Our Lady’s intercession is present, for the Church, whether we are in attendance at Adoration, or praying the Rosary.
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Tis_Bearself
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The Manual of Indulgences requires 5 of them said continually, with other conditions (such as saying them in a church or family group) if one wishes to try to get the plenary indulgence.
Just noting that since the OP’s thread specifically is concerned with getting the plenary indulgence.
I agree that a “Holy Hour” of Adoration is better than just a half hour, but you only have to do a half hour for the plenary.
I think the “Big 4” Plenary activities (Adoration, Scripture, Rosary or Stations) are all meant to each take about a half hour; the Manual specifies a half hour for Adoration and for Scripture reading, and mentions for Stations that if you are “impeded” you can engage in pious reading and meditation on the Passion for at least a half hour, which is also about the time it takes a person to do 14 stations.
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friardchips
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http://www.themostholyrosary.com/appendix2.htm
http://www.rosary-center.org/firstsat.htm
…regarding times, and other factors.
http://www.rosary-center.org/firstsat.htm
…regarding times, and other factors.
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Tis_Bearself
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You must talk a lot faster than me. The fastest I can get done is 18 to 20 minutes, and I prefer to take 25-30
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Hello Nelka,
The difference has to do with the context of each act. The Rosary isn’t more powerful, it is simply inherently different.
The plenary indulgence of the rosary, said in conjunction with the other four requirements shared by all plenary indulgences (free from sin, sacramental Confession, reception of the Eucharist, and praying for the intentions of the Pope) is focused upon the continuous group recitation of five decades of the Rosary in addition to the opening and closing prayers.
The plenary indulgence of adoration is focused upon interior prayer. It is a small taste of the act of Contemplation. Adoration, for those who are not used to it, can be a good deal more difficult than reciting the Rosary. This, along with those other four plenary indulgence requirements, is focused upon private interior prayer with the Lord. This time is not to be spent reciting written prayers silently or reading spiritual writings but instead focused on a personal interior dialogue. The time period is extended because silence and patience is integral to spiritually mature adoration. Our Father General once said that prayers and books are fine for beginners in Adoration. Fully mature, Adoration is a dialogue. Dialogue is a conversation where both people speak and listen. You cannot listen if you are filling the silence with your own words. So, like the Rosary, you should spend fifteen minutes in your own prayer, but you should also spend the same amount of time in silence listening to Christ’s prayer for you.
God Bless,
Br. Ben, CRM
The general section of the Vatican’s The Gift of the Indulgence can be helpful with regard to the four basic requirements for plenary indulgences.
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/t...rc_trib_appen_pro_20000129_indulgence_en.html
The difference has to do with the context of each act. The Rosary isn’t more powerful, it is simply inherently different.
The plenary indulgence of the rosary, said in conjunction with the other four requirements shared by all plenary indulgences (free from sin, sacramental Confession, reception of the Eucharist, and praying for the intentions of the Pope) is focused upon the continuous group recitation of five decades of the Rosary in addition to the opening and closing prayers.
The plenary indulgence of adoration is focused upon interior prayer. It is a small taste of the act of Contemplation. Adoration, for those who are not used to it, can be a good deal more difficult than reciting the Rosary. This, along with those other four plenary indulgence requirements, is focused upon private interior prayer with the Lord. This time is not to be spent reciting written prayers silently or reading spiritual writings but instead focused on a personal interior dialogue. The time period is extended because silence and patience is integral to spiritually mature adoration. Our Father General once said that prayers and books are fine for beginners in Adoration. Fully mature, Adoration is a dialogue. Dialogue is a conversation where both people speak and listen. You cannot listen if you are filling the silence with your own words. So, like the Rosary, you should spend fifteen minutes in your own prayer, but you should also spend the same amount of time in silence listening to Christ’s prayer for you.
God Bless,
Br. Ben, CRM
The general section of the Vatican’s The Gift of the Indulgence can be helpful with regard to the four basic requirements for plenary indulgences.
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/t...rc_trib_appen_pro_20000129_indulgence_en.html
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friardchips
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In terms of ‘public’ Adoration, I think it is best to sit in silence, with God. However, it begins and ends with prayer.
In terms of ‘private’ Adoration - visiting a church or chapel, and sitting by the Blessed Sacrament - I would say that, while it is normal to simply spend time sitting silently with God, for the most part, there is nothing wrong in praying at times while sitting, and presumably, also, at the start and end.
On the subject of indulgences, while indulgences are a part of the faith, another way to understand them, is blessings. Blessings for the soul. But I think, while it is that one can do all the things required for the indulgence, the first-and-foremost reason to satisfy all the requirements, is because of the special love one holds for the Holy Mother. And to honour God.
In terms of ‘private’ Adoration - visiting a church or chapel, and sitting by the Blessed Sacrament - I would say that, while it is normal to simply spend time sitting silently with God, for the most part, there is nothing wrong in praying at times while sitting, and presumably, also, at the start and end.
On the subject of indulgences, while indulgences are a part of the faith, another way to understand them, is blessings. Blessings for the soul. But I think, while it is that one can do all the things required for the indulgence, the first-and-foremost reason to satisfy all the requirements, is because of the special love one holds for the Holy Mother. And to honour God.
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TheLittleLady
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The extra 15 minutes is not a big deal for me, it is that whole “attachment to sin” that trips me up 
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