And a person who is just pays lip service without backing up the right to life with financial support is also morally flawed and unfit. I guess that leaves nobody qualified to hold office so let’s shut down the government and go home.If a person supported pediophilia would you vote for them if they say they will actively create conditions so there are fewer or no child molestations?
If a person supports rape would you vote for them if they say they will actively create conditions so there are fewer or no rapes?
Or is it only in the killing of children that you believe there are conditions where you can vote for somebody that supports it
A person who supports abortion is so morally flawed that they are unfit to hold elected office at any level.
Can you give me some evidence that they do not?Abortion is not necessary. But the conservatives should cough up some support for life financially. Actions speak louder than words.
I don’t know any people like this, do you?And a person who is just pays lip service without backing up the right to life with financial support is also morally flawed and unfit. I guess that leaves nobody qualified to hold office so let’s shut down the government and go home.
We have the resources to keep them alive and fed. If only the precious ones with the money weren’t afraid of taxes. The Vatican has even said it is a duty to pay taxes. A sales tax would do the trick since any income tax is going to upset either end of the income scale.Can you point to be any social program that has been cut since 2000? And even if your premise were true surely you are not suggesting that children are better dead than underfed?
Who are you accusing of “paying lip service without backing up the right to life with financial support?” I will tell you that the pro-lifers on this forum donate both money and time to the pro-life cause.And a person who is just pays lip service without backing up the right to life with financial support is also morally flawed and unfit. I guess that leaves nobody qualified to hold office so let’s shut down the government and go home.
The entirety of the Republican Caucuses of the Senate and House of Representatives. The pResident of the United States. One of the State Senators representing the San Fernando Valley here in California. I could go on.I don’t know any people like this, do you?
I do over thousand state and federal tax returns a year. Somebody must be paying taxes. Perhaps the problem is that the tax code is set up so that 48% of the people in the country pay no federal income tax. Needless to say these are not the rich and middle class. A sales tax by the way is the most regressive tax of all. It hits the poor far harder than it does the richWe have the resources to keep them alive and fed. If only the precious ones with the money weren’t afraid of taxes. The Vatican has even said it is a duty to pay taxes. A sales tax would do the trick since any income tax is going to upset either end of the income scale.
I tithe to my church. I can do nothing more because I can hardly pay necessary expenses due to a disability. Shame on you for not knowing my circumstances before judging.Who are you accusing of “paying lip service without backing up the right to life with financial support?” I will tell you that the pro-lifers on this forum donate both money and time to the pro-life cause.
And again, your argument is asking us to believe that “abortion is necessary” because mean ol’ conservatives won’t help pregnant women, or women struggling to support their child.
I will match you dollar-for-dollar in support of mothers in need, and hour-for-hour in donated labor.
Shame on you!
So much for rational discussion with you.The entirety of the Republican Caucuses of the Senate and House of Representatives. The pResident of the United States. One of the State Senators representing the San Fernando Valley here in California. I could go on.
So you want to show compassion by giving other people my money?I tithe to my church. I can do nothing more because I can hardly pay necessary expenses due to a disability. Shame on you for not knowing my circumstances before judging.
You accused **us **of not supporting mothers in need.I tithe to my church. I can do nothing more because I can hardly pay necessary expenses due to a disability. Shame on you for not knowing my circumstances before judging.
Here we go again over the income tax. Are those 48% paying no taxes illegally or is it that their income is too low to be taxed? I am disabled and unable to presently earn more than the poverty level. I am still entitled to the standard deductionand personal exemption. I think it is fair. As my income goes up I am then entitled to an IRA contribution. If I can ever get back to a full time postion and start a family I am entitled to the dependent deductions. Does one ever stop to think that the 48% fall under these conditions?I do over thousand state and federal tax returns a year. Somebody must be paying taxes. Perhaps the problem is that the tax code is set up so that 48% of the people in the country pay no federal income tax. Needless to say these are not the rich and middle class. A sales tax by the way is the most regressive tax of all. It hits the poor far harder than it does the rich
I show compassion by giving them what I can. It is quite difficult to tithe at my income level but I do it anyhow. If I had excess I would give more.So you want to show compassion by giving other people my money?
What, exactly, do you do except for vote for people who cut funding to poor people?You accused **us **of not supporting mothers in need.
And you made that accusation in the full knowledge that we work hard for pregnant women and mothers in need. And you made the accusation anyway.
Shame on you!
And you made it as part of your claim that “abortion is necessary.”
Shame on you, again!
And nobody here has called you a fool, have they?I show compassion by giving them what I can. It is quite difficult to tithe at my income level but I do it anyhow. If I had excess I would give more.
I wasn’t aware that the funding for the poor had been cut? And as I asked Jim even if your premise was correctl surely you are not proposing that people are better dead than underfed.What, exactly, do you do except for vote for people who cut funding to poor people?
Since when did murdering an innocent child to correct the mistake of their parents become acceptable?Now who is reading minds with their crystal ball? I never said abortions are needed. But it is wrong just to go in and make it a criminal act without backing it up with alternatives like paying the less fortunate couples to carry their babies to term. Put the money where the mouth is.
My apologies. But to insist that there is only one proper way of voting as if the picture is just black and white is wrong. While I cannot vote for a prochoice candidate I laso cannot simply vote for a prowar, pro death penalty candidate as though they are truly prolife. I must seek out other options and it is not wasting my vote to do such.And nobody here has called you a fool, have they?
Nobody here has said your lack of ability to give has made abortion “necessary,” have they?
Why do you find it necessary to use those kind of wild and unfair claims and insults against others?
We may be on to something here. If you’re opposed to the death penalty I could vote for you. Are you running? Of course you would have to lighten up on requiring the impoverished to pay some tax. Try the sales tax. It is not regressive. The more expensive choice you make when purchasing, the more tax you pay. One does not need a Rolls Royce or Porsche since a low cost Pontiac works just as well. And frugality is then rewarded.I wasn’t aware that the funding for the poor had been cut? And as I asked Jim even if your premise was correctl surely you are not proposing that people are better dead than underfed.
As far as what I do I have counseled in a crisis pregnancy center, am active in the anti-death penalty movement, and a financial supporter of my parish. How about you