Poll: 46% of Doctors Would Quit if Pro-Abortion Health Care Bill Passed

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Pretty soon.

If Government healthcare is not repealed, then you will just simply show up at your local post office or DMV or IRS office and get in the line, with those ropes and stanchions, and when you get up to the window, they will decide what you get.

[We don’t need no stinkin’ doctors!]

Don’t worry about a thing.

The guy or gal at the window will flip pages in a million page “Policy and Procedures Manual” based on the 3000 page law. And then he or she will decide what kind of health care you will get.

No appeal. No legal alternatives.

And if you DO get health care, the IRS will be in charge of collecting the money from you.

What more could you ask for.
 
Hmmmm… and we have a shortage of doctors now? What’s going to happen then? I understand numerous students are debating whether they should continue in their medical degrees if the “healthcare” bill passes.
They’ll most likely find other careers then medical; perhaps in the oil industry as that is an area what will grow as time goes on since we’ll be doing alot of oil exploration; Plus there’ll be plent of job opporunities in retail for them as well. I’m sure it’ll be a bright picture for them.
 
unimportant.

Pretty soon.

If Government healthcare is not repealed, then you will just simply show up at your local post office or DMV or IRS office and get in the line, with those ropes and stanchions, and when you get up to the window, they will decide what you get.

[We don’t need no stinkin’ doctors!]

Don’t worry about a thing.

The guy or gal at the window will flip pages in a million page “Policy and Procedures Manual” based on the 3000 page law. And then he or she will decide what kind of health care you will get.

No appeal. No legal alternatives.

And if you DO get health care, the IRS will be in charge of collecting the money from you.

What more could you ask for.
As I’ve said before in these threads, my friends who either have no insurance or can’t buy insurance look at it as beting alot better then having no insurance at all.
 
They’ll most likely find other careers then medical; perhaps in the oil industry as that is an area what will grow as time goes on since we’ll be doing alot of oil exploration; Plus there’ll be plent of job opporunities in retail for them as well. I’m sure it’ll be a bright picture for them.
If you can convince our government to get out of the way and let us drill for oil we can then:
a) have more jobs.
b) be less reliant on foreign oil
c) have lower gasoline prices.
d) have less foreign debt
e) lower national healthcare costs.

Then we’d have something
 
If you can convince our government to get out of the way and let us drill for oil we can then:
a) have more jobs.
b) be less reliant on foreign oil
c) have lower gasoline prices.
d) have less foreign debt
e) lower national healthcare costs.

Then we’d have something
Well based on what the President said earlier this week, that’s going to happen in the near future, so there you go!
 
Well based on what the President said earlier this week, that’s going to happen in the near future, so there you go!
I hope so. But to be honest with you, I’ll believe it when I see it. There are reserves in Wyoming that equal or exceed the reserves in Saudi. The cost of retrieving them is roughly 16 dollars a barrel. The problem is, its all on recently purchased government land, which is, of course, pure coincidence.
 
It depends on the reasons why these medical students decided to study medicine. If a person chooses a profession like medicine, it should be because they like to help people, to treat and cure patients, therefore, this bill does not have to do anything with their decision to follow such a career. Now, if those students decided to study in order to make money, that is a different purpose and therefore for sure, they will start quitting their medical studies.
You forget another strong motivation: to be in control of the situation in which they practice,
Doctors are free professionals rather than employees. Take away the freedom to practice,and you will lose a lot of people. Plus there is a mystique that might be lost. A major problem of recruiting priests is that the priesthood has lost the attraction it held for young men back in the 1950s. Young men join the marines and subject themselves to physical discomfort that most people find impossible to accept. Idealists will continue to go into medicine, but also people with much less talent than the present crop, because the bundle of rewards will be smaller.
 
I hope so. But to be honest with you, I’ll believe it when I see it. There are reserves in Wyoming that equal or exceed the reserves in Saudi. The cost of retrieving them is roughly 16 dollars a barrel. The problem is, its all on recently purchased government land, which is, of course, pure coincidence.
Obama will drill only if he thinks the extra money will go to fund his social welfare problem.
He wants us to be a big Norway, or so it seems.
 
Off topic, but … Obama’s oil-care program calls for STUDIES only and the only drilling will take place if, when and where the EPA and the military say it’s ok.

They’re NOT going to give the experts at the oil and gas companies an (name removed by moderator)ut.

So, don’t hold your breath.
 
I hope so. But to be honest with you, I’ll believe it when I see it. There are reserves in Wyoming that equal or exceed the reserves in Saudi. The cost of retrieving them is roughly 16 dollars a barrel. The problem is, its all on recently purchased government land, which is, of course, pure coincidence.
Likewise off topic, but to respond to your post, Its quite possible that the mindset here is, once the saudi fields run dry (which will obviously happen at some point), the US will have a majority of oil reserves, and hence a controlling interest in world affairs.
 
Likewise off topic, but to respond to your post, Its quite possible that the mindset here is, once the saudi fields run dry (which will obviously happen at some point), the US will have a majority of oil reserves, and hence a controlling interest in world affairs.
apologies.

We should take this to a new thread; however:

telegram.com/article/20100318/APA/303189606

Thursday, March 18, 2010

Climate change cited as Mont. leases suspended

The Associated Press

BILLINGS, Mont. — A federal judge has approved a first-of-its-kind settlement requiring the government to suspend 38,000 acres of oil and gas leases in Montana so it can gauge how oil field activities contribute to climate change.

At issue are the greenhouse gases emitted by drilling machinery and industry practices such as venting natural gas directly into the atmosphere.

Environmentalists _ who sued when the Montana leases were sold in 2008 _ argued the industry has allowed too much waste and uses inefficient technologies that could easily be updated.

Under the deal approved Thursday by U.S. District Judge Donald Molloy in Missoula, the Bureau of Land Management will suspend the 61 leases in Montana within 90 days. They will have to go through a new round of environmental reviews before the suspensions can be lifted.

“We view this as a very big deal, if a modest first step, in the BLM addressing climate change in oil and gas development,” said plaintiffs’ attorney Erik Schlenker-Goodrich. “It’s quite a dirty process, but there are ways to clean it up.”

Plaintiffs in the case were the Montana Environmental Information Center, the Oil and Gas Accountability Project and Wild Earth Guardians.

A parallel lawsuit challenging 70,000 acres of federal lands leased in New Mexico remains pending.

Industry representatives contend emissions from oil and gas fields are necessary to develop a valuable domestic resource. And they argue that natural gas still comes in ahead of dirtier fuels like coal in terms of climate change contributions.

Oil and gas operations contribute about 23 percent of annual U.S. methane emissions and 2 percent of total greenhouse gas emissions, according to the Environmental Protection Agency.

A BLM spokesman, Greg Albright, said reviewing lease sales for climate change would be a first for the agency. How it will be done was still being worked out, and it was unclear if the BLM would adopt such reviews as a standard requirement.

“This is really early, so I don’t know what the ramifications will be,” Albright said.

Complicating the effort, the Montana leases are scattered across several regions of the state, in areas subject to different environmental documents used to guide land management decisions.

An oil and gas industry group, the Independent Petroleum Association of Mountain States, intervened in the Montana case in a bid to keep the leases active for drilling.

The group’s director of government affairs, Kathleen Sgamma, said the BLM’s climate change review shouldn’t hold up the leases too long because they were acquired speculatively, meaning there’s no guarantee of drilling.

“At the leasing stage, the analysis by definition can’t be all that in-depth,” she said. “You have absolutely no ability to quantify greenhouse gas emissions.”

She said the BLM will be asked to finish the reviews within six months so the lease holders can get on with any work they have planned.

Schlenker-Goodrich said no drilling has occurred on the 61 leases because companies were waiting on the outcome of the lawsuit.
 
Likewise off topic, but to respond to your post, Its quite possible that the mindset here is, once the saudi fields run dry (which will obviously happen at some point), the US will have a majority of oil reserves, and hence a controlling interest in world affairs.
I don’t think that’s the case. I think the anti-capitalist environmentalist want to put a stranglehold on oil prices, artificially driving the market to find other energy sources, no matter how inefficient.

This is what created the ethanol fiasco. Create a false need for ethanol based car fuels and drive up the world wide market for corn, causing extra pressure on worldwide food supplies.

Oh yeah… nothing can POSSIBLY go wrong with this national healthcare plan. 🤷
 
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