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Darnok
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There’s hope for U.S. Catholics, but a lot of work still needs to be done.
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080413/ap_on_re_us/catholic_poll
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080413/ap_on_re_us/catholic_poll
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PaulJason
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No look at these to statements
“and most believed they could be good Roman Catholics without going to Mass”
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“and most believed they could be healthy by drinking ten cups of lard an hour”
Both statements truly reflect what “most” believe, however that does not make either statement actually true.
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a_priori
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"NEW YORK - American Catholics said in a new survey they were pleased with the leadership of Pope Benedict XVI, ahead of his first visit to the U.S. since he was elected. The study also found intense interest in faith among some young people.
Yet, few parishioners overall said they go to confession, and most believed they could be good Roman Catholics without going to Mass."
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080413/ap_on_re_us/catholic_poll
Yet, few parishioners overall said they go to confession, and most believed they could be good Roman Catholics without going to Mass."
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080413/ap_on_re_us/catholic_poll
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kristie_m
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Interesting analogy…but ewwww!
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ChristIsTheWay
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I found this survey to be a mixture of good and bad things. The not going to confession or weekly Mass is obviously quite bad. But I do see some hope when they mention statistics involving the Church’s leadership. Hopefully, Pope Benedict can use his popularity to help correct these misunderstandings and bring more people back to faithful Mass attendance.
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FlatAffect
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Well, they can’t really believe in the Catholic faith if they don’t go to Mass…because Mass is the centerpiece of the Catholic faith. As Mr. Spock would say, it is just not logical.
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Rand_Al_Thor
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The source and summit of our faith is not important? Why wouldn’t you want to go to Mass? I wonder what their reasons are for not wanting to go and worship God and receive Him in the Eucharist. “Good Roman Catholics” should WANT to go to Mass!
In Christ,
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In Christ,
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Nordar
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I’m with you, I just don’t get it, why they would not go to Mass. I mean I really really don’t get it
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bilop
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Because they have been horribly Catechised, and infected by the relativism of our secular culture.
Many don’t understand what the Mass is. Others were taught by the hippy-dippy generation that all “nice” people will go to heaven.
There’s a massive re-education required, particularly on the reality of sin and Hell, and the need for the sacraments.
God bless
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saylo
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We have been told there would be a “falling away” in the End Times. Pope Benedict a couple years ago said something like the Chuch will be stronger but fewer in number…(something of that sort). It seems like he was addressing a “falling away” future for us.
There is NO redemption for sins WITHOUT the Mass…none!
Both, the Sacrifice of the Mass and the Sacrament of Penance are INSEPARABLE. The Mass is the engine that empowers absolution in the confessional. No Mass=No absolution. This is what allows us to be renewed in the continuing forgiveness of our sins. Mass + Penance is ongoing for the redemption of mankind.They both reunite us with God. We CANNOT have one WITHOUT the other. We are a fallen race and God is infinitely merciful by these two. Without the Mass we do NOT have the Body of Christ in Holy Communion.
If one were to go to Confession and ignore the Mass. the “confession” is WORTHLESS and absolution is voided in a sense of verity.
This article/survey. to me, at least, is very telling in that it is a sign of a generation that has been fooled by the forces of Hell.
The reasonings are also “Relativism”…This is exactly what the Holy Father is warning us against.
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KathleenElsie
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I find this most interesting, Red is my addition.
Those Catholic children born in the 1960’s have had fewer opportunities to go to Catholic schools that are being run and taught by religious. Most of the schools were changed from a ministry to a self supporting entity. So the information is more generic IMHO to accommodate the non-catholic children that in some cases made up the majority of the students.
Those born after the 1980s and that have entered school since have had the advantage of a more traditional CCD in many places. Where you see the youth still involved with their parish after 3rd grade you will see a clearer understanding of what the Catholic Church believes.
Those born prior to 1960 were taught the beliefs of the Catholic Church as being non-negotiable. Many were in the Catholic schools when they were still mostly for Catholic families and had religious still as the main teachers.
Those Catholic children born in the 1960’s have had fewer opportunities to go to Catholic schools that are being run and taught by religious. Most of the schools were changed from a ministry to a self supporting entity. So the information is more generic IMHO to accommodate the non-catholic children that in some cases made up the majority of the students.
Those born after the 1980s and that have entered school since have had the advantage of a more traditional CCD in many places. Where you see the youth still involved with their parish after 3rd grade you will see a clearer understanding of what the Catholic Church believes.
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KathleenElsie
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Lack of Catholic education that truly is Catholic. In some places many of us now get together one day a month and fellowship with other Catholic families and discuss what it is to be Catholic.
Strange for some to see all those VANS in the driveway while the kids and parents flow out.
LOL last week there were around forty kids and 12 adults (five sets of parents and one pair of grand-parents). All by the way home schooled. I mentioned to someone at our parish that we would all go to Mass after our gathering and the question was asked if we could control all the kids
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qui_est_ce
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They don’t know what they don’t know. Unfortunaltely, the “hippy-dippies” are still around catechizing our children today. What’s left of most nuns who joined the convents in the 70’s is so way out wacko. In my children’s parochial grade school, they used the “Tug of PEACE” rope to teach the kids “Team building” skills. Even the kids thought it weird.
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In my children’s parochial grade school, in 2003, they used the “Tug of PEACE” rope to teach the kids “Team building” skills. Even the kids thought it weird. There is also a “Shalom Pole” outside the school.
It is my experience that the people of my generation and older are the most relativist, but still willing to debate religion and absolutes. A large portion of Generation X sees absolutely no need to even consider the philiophies or religion or spirituality within real of Christianity.
The world is CRYING for an authority, a leader, and the Pope is providing it.
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Maureen_Fiore
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I think that the reason why young people don’t go to mass is because of the breakdown of the family. Many parents don’t go themselves so why should their children go? If parents attend mass regularly and bring their children to mass I believe those children will follow the good examples set by their parents.
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davy39
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I really don’t know how these people claim to be good Catholics, and not attend Holy Mass. They’re just fooling themselves. They should know that without the Mass, and them believing that the bread and wine is turned into the Body and Blood of Christ, they might as well belong to some other church. You can’t embrace the Catholic faith, and not attend Mass.
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Genesis315
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How can you have faith, but not embrace the source and summit of it? Generally, when people say things like that, they aren’t talking about faith properly so-called, but about religious sentiment.
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Nordar
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When some say on here that it is because of being poorly Cathechised are you saying that they never learned that missing Mass is a mortal sin? I have a hard time believing that, even if they were poorly cathechised they would still have learned about mortal sin.
Now they might not choose to believe that, that is a whole different thing. I still don’t get that if one claims to be Catholic and speaks fopr Catholics (because many of them do). why they do not go to Mass.
Now they might not choose to believe that, that is a whole different thing. I still don’t get that if one claims to be Catholic and speaks fopr Catholics (because many of them do). why they do not go to Mass.
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Nino
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I have found down thru the years to never beieve ‘polls’ its these polls that once called the election of the Gipper to be too close to call…I think he won some 49 states…another was the so called diaster that was gonna strike at the midnite hour heralding in the new year of 2,000…that all of the worlds computers would go bonkers.(y2k)…a CBS radio alert that same nite reported some 35,000 body bags sent to madison square garden to cover the deaths of horrible riots predicted etc…we have earth warming nonsense…how many are called,who made up the list…how was the question worded…inquiring folks want to know…to be PC means to be liked,to be cool…so the answers are thought up first then the question. N
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thomasf
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I for one can tell you no one ever told us that missing mass was a mortal sin. I went to ccd for 12 years before being confirmed. We talked about how God loves us. We had work books, drew pictures, sang songs, made collages and diaramas, all kinds of activities. But very little learning about the faith. It was implied to us that it’s okay to miss mass now and then, and that going to confession to a priest wasn’t necessary. Not only that, but I hated going to mass because no one ever explained what we were doing. The things I learned in the first weeks after returning to the faith a year ago eclipse everything I learned in those 12 years. And once I did finally learn them, I was all in with the church.
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Nordar
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Thank you for replying, that is really very sad, I didn’t realize how negligent some CCD programs were!
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