POLL: The American Bishops and the Pope are against family separation and "Zero Tolerance" immigration policy

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Maybe “baiting poll,” but I find it’s those who DON’T agree with “and it’s important we listen” who are more likely to whine about it.

I’m just glad most CAF users so far agree it’s important.
 
We brought this on ourselves. There is a
concern that some of the children did not arrive with “parents”, but Human Traffickers.
 
We brought this on ourselves. There is a
concern that some of the children did not arrive with “parents”, but Human Traffickers.
10,000 of the 12,000 were separated before even crossing the border illegally.
 
It’s important for sure. I don’t think a child should be taken away from their family provided the family is able to provide for the child’s needs and they don’t abuse the child. That said, this issue is heavily politicized right now. The politicians on the right want strict obedience to the law, which entails deporting those who illegally enter the country. The politicians on the left want illegal immigrants to be given some legal status within the country. That’s why you have people like Kamala Harris saying “the administration should end the zero-tolerance policy”, calling on the president to do something, now saying, once the president has done something to keep children from being taken away from their parents, that it “didn’t fix the crisis.” And this flies in the face of the Flores settlement that came out of the 9th Circuit Court (a left-leaning circuit) which said that accompanied and unaccompanied children cannot be detained for more than 20 days. Nobody is going to win (politically) in this situation. The left doesn’t want them detained together, they want them released together. It’ll be interesting to see if someone challenges the legality of Trump’s EO here. If they do, Trump will then have to either go back to separating them, or letting them in wholesale as Obama did, which would be political suicide given Trump’s hardline platform on immigration.

I don’t know where the USCCB stands on the issue now, if children are going to be detained with their parents. It’s better, but I imagine they, too, will still be dissatisfied.
 
The Court will rule what Trump did is unconstitutional as they did before.
The choice is - ignore the law and the oath of office, or separate children when appropriate.

NYS has a law that separates children from a parent driving under the influence. Where is the howling?
 
Hasn’t this become a non-issue? Or, is the bashing of the President not finished?

I drop Obama’s name, as this same thing, and record or near record deportations occurred in silence over his…
e i g h t l o n g years.

How is that not hypocrisy?
 
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The Court will rule what Trump did is unconstitutional as they did before.
The choice is - ignore the law and the oath of office, or separate children when appropriate.
Hey, from where did you get the proof that this was happening? You thought it was all fake news a day or so ago. How come you now know it’s been happening? Maybe Fox news reported it…

You see this bull dust all the time.

‘It didn’t happen’
‘OK, it might have happened but it’s no big deal’
‘OK, it might be a big deal but the other guys are to blame’
‘OK, they may not be to blame but our hands are tied’
‘OK, not exactly tied, but no-one seems to complain about x, y and z’
‘OK, they may not be comparable, but if we don’t build a wall…’

Pretty pathetic, really. If back pedalling was an Olympic event then some people on this forum would be festooned with gold.
 
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NYS has a law that separates children from a parent driving under the influence. Where is the howling?
People’s feelings on families being separated is situational. I’m sure you will also not find “howling” if a father that physically assaulted his family was removed from them. I dont think you will find that people blindly react to separation absent of a scenario or situation.
 
Hey, from where did you get the proof that this was happening? You thought it was all fake news a day or so ago. How come you now know it’s been happening? Maybe Fox news reported it…
Here we go: As I predicted
Cuomo is suing

Gov. Cuomo: Trump executive order does nothing - CNN Video

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo explains the state of New York’s decision to sue the Trump administration over the separation of families at the US-Mexico border.

 
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I dont think you will find that people blindly react to separation absent of a scenario or situation.
The fakenewsmedia just did. They knew Flores but tried to get Trump. It backfired. They should be getting on Congress to resolve this.
 
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Shouting “Fake News Media” usually STRONGLY implies an allegiance to Trump, right?

Where do you get your news?
 
Shouting “Fake News Media” usually STRONGLY implies an allegiance to Trump, right?

Where do you get your news?
I have allegiance to truthful and complete coverage. Most modern journalists surveyed admit their reporting is biased.
 
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Bradskii:
Hey, from where did you get the proof that this was happening? You thought it was all fake news a day or so ago. How come you now know it’s been happening? Maybe Fox news reported it…
Here we go: As I predicted
Cuomo is suing

Gov. Cuomo: Trump executive order does nothing - CNN Video

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo explains the state of New York’s decision to sue the Trump administration over the separation of families at the US-Mexico border.

Gov. Cuomo: Trump executive order does nothing - CNN Video
Hey, no deflection allowed. You didn’t believe it and now you do. How come you changed your mind? Fox?
 
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