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Thanks for all the answers. I was told by the Abbess of the Monastery that I had written to and visited that they don’t allow live-ins! I am so excited to know that Aptos allows live-ins. That must be great, to actually experience the life before you make a committment.

Yes, I am pretty much interested in the PCC’s. I went to Italy last summer and visited Assisi. Also, I read M. Mary Francis’ book, A Right to be Merry, so I just felt that was it for me.

I also want to wear the full habit and I know that probably sounds vain but I do.

Thanks for the suggestion to contact TradMom. She is great!
mongobongo
Also remember that many monasteries allow for short visits [similar to a week long retreat…not quite a live in but a way to get to know the community]… The idea of live ins per se is a rather new development… the live in part which so many refer to now is traditionally part of the “postulantcy” or now some call it “the come and see time”.Blessings on your journey
 
Additional Poor Clare Monasteries in the US
Poor Clares Of Spokane Washington [OSC]
calledbyjoy.com/


Their Ministry is one of prayer and hospitlity. Some of their outreaches include: Publishing 5 books, A Catholic Radio Station , Daily [or almost daily] online inspirations,and A wonderful Franciscan E Card Site

This link
poorclare.org/
[mentioned in prior posts] will lead you to one of the best websites on the Poor Clares not only in the US but other parts of the world. It gives a great overview of the different observances and monasteries founded within each observance. I highly recommend it.
 
Mother Angelica entered the PCs in Cleveland on Euclid Ave -http://www.thepoorclares.com/

Then she was sent to the PCPAs in Canton, Ohio - their website: poorclares.org/

This is an excerpt from the PCPA’s of St. Joseph (sisters from Mother Angelica’s Hanceville order) at stjosephmonastery.com/hist_order3a.html

'In 1944, a young woman named Rita Rizzo entered the Cleveland Monastery.This was to have great consequences for our Order. She was given the name Sr. Mary Angelica and in 1946 was chosen to be one of the founding members of our Monastery in Canton, Ohio. Our Cleveland Monastery sent out a foundation to Washington, DC in 1954 and two years later, our own Monastery was founded in Portsmouth, Ohio, in 1956.

In 1962 Mother Angelica headed South to fulfil a promise she had made to the Lord after suffering many injuries from an accident-"If you let me walk again, I will build You a Monastery in the South. " The Lord agreed to those terms and she went on to found Our Lady of the Angels Monastery, an International Catholic Television Network (EWTN), a radio station, and an order of Franciscan Friars.

After some years the Monastery was too small to hold all the vocations the Lord was sending, so the Shrine of the Blessed Sacrament was built in 1999 in Hanceville, Alabama. Vocations have continued to abound and the Monastery has sent out foundations to Phoenix, Arizona and San Antonio, Texas. Two Sisters from Hanceville are also part of the international community which has formed in Troyes, France, to re-open our cradle Monastery which had been closed for some time."
 
I read the book, too and more. I have also been going to different websites. I’m curious if there are any other “poor clares to be” out here!

Thanks…
Peace and Blessings!

We are the Capuchin Poor Clare Sisters and this is our web page, [capuch(name removed by moderator)oorclares.org/english.html](http://www.capuch(name removed by moderator)oorclares.org/english.html)
perhaps you would like to check it out.

I am sister Maria from the monastery in Denver

God Bless You!
 
Peace and Blessings!

We are the Capuchin Poor Clare Sisters and this is our web page, [capuch(name removed by moderator)oorclares.org/english.html](http://www.capuch(name removed by moderator)oorclares.org/english.html)
perhaps you would like to check it out.

I am sister Maria from the monastery in Denver

God Bless You!
You are very blessed to be in Denver. I have a very special love for the Capuchin tradition. I began as a Capuchin, many years ago. Then the Lord called three of us and two Secular Franciscans to venture out as a new community of Franciscans Brothers of Penance to live a life of atonement for those who destroy life in the womb. Now our local bishop has given us permission to begin the discernment process for another foundation. If it is the will of the Holy Spirit, this will be the Franciscan Brothers of Life whose mission will be to serve the unborn, their parents and to serve the sick and the dying and their families.

However, both foundations follow the Capuchin Franciscan tradition of contemplation, absolute obedience to the Church, Francis, and our superiors, literal poverty and brotherhood as it was lived by Francis, Clare and the brothers and sisters of our holy family.

Charlie, as we affectionately call him, and I were stationed at the same friary in the East before the reorganization of the Capuchin Pronvinces in the USA and the erection of the Province of St. Conrad. Sean O’Malley was also at that house. Please pray for the three of us, Sister. God split us up and sent us in different directions to love him in the poor and proclaim the Gospel, just as he did the early friars and nuns of the order.

Any woman who is thinking seriously about becoming a Poor Clare nun, if you are looking for a life that is enclosed, following the Rule of St. Clare as it was followed in the early days of the order and with great austerity, the Capuchin Poor Clares may be for you.

Although the Order of Poor Sisters if one order founded by our holy Father Francis and holy Mother Clare, like the friars, Clare sent her daughters to new foundations and those foundations to other foundations. As each foundation was erected it did two very interesting things. The nuns kept the fidelity to Francis and Clare by retaining the rule and the customs of the order. At the same time, they focussed on the particular virtue of Francis and Clare that was most needed at that time and in the place where they found themselves.

For example, in France, the devotion to the Holy Eucharist was characteristic of the French Catholics. Hence the Poor Clare foundation in France became the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration, which we know from EWTN and Mother Angelica. And the same thing happened with other monasteries of the Poor Sisters, now called Poor Clares or Order of St. Clare. Each one took one aspect of Franciscan life and hilighted it for the salvation of the sisters and the souls of those around them who needed to see that particular virute in living form. Thus the Capuchins were orignially a group of Conventual Franciscan Friars and two Observant Franciscan Friars, all sons of St. Francis, with Franciscan succession who saw the need to emphasize the poverty of Francis and Clare at a time when the Church, both lay and religious, was becoming very concerned with the new colonies in the Americas. The focus was on activity. These friars realized that the brothers were becoming very active missionaries and also very clerical (ordaining almost too many priests) in response to the call to the American missions. These friars opened a new house where prayer, obedience and strict poverty were observed. They were soon followed by some Poor Clares. The Capuchin Franciscan Friars and the Capuchin Poor Clares were canonically erected years later.

In the economic environment in which we live, it is important to have these holy men and women remind us that poverty can be accepted as a means to holiness. It doesn’t have to be a cause for anxiety or be seen as an evil hardship. It is a terrible thing, when it is imposed. But when it is embraced as a means of living as Christ died on the cross, naked and poor, it becomes a means to holiness. This is the most important message of the Capuchin Franciscan tradition.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
You are very blessed to be in Denver. I have a very special love for the Capuchin tradition. I began as a Capuchin, many years ago. Then the Lord called three of us and two Secular Franciscans to venture out as a new community of Franciscans Brothers of Penance to live a life of atonement for those who destroy life in the womb. Now our local bishop has given us permission to begin the discernment process for another foundation. If it is the will of the Holy Spirit, this will be the Franciscan Brothers of Life whose mission will be to serve the unborn, their parents and to serve the sick and the dying and their families.

However, both foundations follow the Capuchin Franciscan tradition of contemplation, absolute obedience to the Church, Francis, and our superiors, literal poverty and brotherhood as it was lived by Francis, Clare and the brothers and sisters of our holy family.

Charlie, as we affectionately call him, and I were stationed at the same friary in the East before the reorganization of the Capuchin Pronvinces in the USA and the erection of the Province of St. Conrad. Sean O’Malley was also at that house. Please pray for the three of us, Sister. God split us up and sent us in different directions to love him in the poor and proclaim the Gospel, just as he did the early friars and nuns of the order.

Any woman who is thinking seriously about becoming a Poor Clare nun, if you are looking for a life that is enclosed, following the Rule of St. Clare as it was followed in the early days of the order and with great austerity, the Capuchin Poor Clares may be for you.

Although the Order of Poor Sisters if one order founded by our holy Father Francis and holy Mother Clare, like the friars, Clare sent her daughters to new foundations and those foundations to other foundations. As each foundation was erected it did two very interesting things. The nuns kept the fidelity to Francis and Clare by retaining the rule and the customs of the order. At the same time, they focussed on the particular virtue of Francis and Clare that was most needed at that time and in the place where they found themselves.

For example, in France, the devotion to the Holy Eucharist was characteristic of the French Catholics. Hence the Poor Clare foundation in France became the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration, which we know from EWTN and Mother Angelica. And the same thing happened with other monasteries of the Poor Sisters, now called Poor Clares or Order of St. Clare. Each one took one aspect of Franciscan life and hilighted it for the salvation of the sisters and the souls of those around them who needed to see that particular virute in living form. Thus the Capuchins were orignially a group of Conventual Franciscan Friars and two Observant Franciscan Friars, all sons of St. Francis, with Franciscan succession who saw the need to emphasize the poverty of Francis and Clare at a time when the Church, both lay and religious, was becoming very concerned with the new colonies in the Americas. The focus was on activity. These friars realized that the brothers were becoming very active missionaries and also very clerical (ordaining almost too many priests) in response to the call to the American missions. These friars opened a new house where prayer, obedience and strict poverty were observed. They were soon followed by some Poor Clares. The Capuchin Franciscan Friars and the Capuchin Poor Clares were canonically erected years later.

In the economic environment in which we live, it is important to have these holy men and women remind us that poverty can be accepted as a means to holiness. It doesn’t have to be a cause for anxiety or be seen as an evil hardship. It is a terrible thing, when it is imposed. But when it is embraced as a means of living as Christ died on the cross, naked and poor, it becomes a means to holiness. This is the most important message of the Capuchin Franciscan tradition.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Brother JR …
As usual it is so wonderful and uplifiting to read your posts. Thank You for further informtion on our wonderful Franciscan Life. Blessings also to Sr Maria as she follows our Franciscan way of life…
Blessings of Peace and Good!
 
If you want to find good Franciscan lierature try

stfrancisbookshop.com/

and

franciscanresources.com/

I get many of our books for our fraternity from these sites.

By the way, there is a note that has to be edited. Mother Angelica is not the founder of the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration. The Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration are a French congregation of Poor Clares. Mother Angelica founded the monastery in Irondale, Alabama. Originally she belonged to the monastery in Cleveland, which is the oldest Poor Clare Monastery in the USA. From Irondale they moved to the shrine that was built by the diocese of Burmingham and donations to the Poor Clares.

There are two foundations coming up, one in Texas and the other in Arizona. When they prove that they can get vocations and income so as not to be a financial burden on the Church, they will be legally separated from the foundation in Alabama and become autonomous monasteries. Every Poor Clare Monastery is its own “order”. They are not legally attached once they receive canonical approval. They become dependent on the Diocese and the Holy See.

They remain members of the same congregation, because they follow the spirit of the same founder, such as PCPA, PCC, PC, Cap.PC and OSC. Of course they follow the Rule of St. Clare inspired by the rule that St. Francis originally wrote for them.

Fraternally,

JR 🙂
You’re right about Mother Angelica not being the foundress of the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration. The original name of the Order when she entered in Cleveland was the "Franciscan Sisters of the Blessed Sacrament’. I found that in Raymond Arroyo’s biography of Mother.

You’re also right about the two foundations in Arizona and Texas that came from Alabama. There’s another monastery that was ‘replenished’ by nuns from Mother Angelica’s Alabama house-Portsmouth, Ohio, St. Joseph’s monastery. I just read on their website that they are preparing to move to the Diocese of Charlotte, North Carolina. The Sisters had visited North Carolina and were considering moving there. So now they are!
 
Dera TeresaBenedicta,
What a great post! Do you know which monastery Mother Angelica had been part of before she moved to Alabama? I love her Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration (EWTN).
Loved all yr sites. God bless!
Kathgirl
If no one else has answered this question, I will:

Before Mother Angelica moved to Alabama, she was in the monastery of Franciscans of the Blessed Sacrament in Cleveland, Ohio. That was the name of the Order when she entered in the 1940s. Then she went to the new foundation that was made in her hometown of Canton, Ohio called Sancta Clara [that’s St. Clare’s name in Latin]. She went to Alabama from that monastery. And both monasteries still exist today. They have links on the EWTN website, under ‘Eucharistic Pilgrimages’.

Have you read Raymond Arroyo’s biography of Mother Angelica? He mentions both places.
 
You’re right about Mother Angelica not being the foundress of the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration. The original name of the Order when she entered in Cleveland was the "Franciscan Sisters of the Blessed Sacrament’. I found that in Raymond Arroyo’s biography of Mother.

You’re also right about the two foundations in Arizona and Texas that came from Alabama. There’s another monastery that was ‘replenished’ by nuns from Mother Angelica’s Alabama house-Portsmouth, Ohio, St. Joseph’s monastery. I just read on their website that they are preparing to move to the Diocese of Charlotte, North Carolina. The Sisters had visited North Carolina and were considering moving there. So now they are!
I didn’t know that they were coming to NC. That’s great news to have them come to the Southeast. Thanks for the news.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
If no one else has answered this question, I will:

Before Mother Angelica moved to Alabama, she was in the monastery of Franciscans of the Blessed Sacrament in Cleveland, Ohio. That was the name of the Order when she entered in the 1940s. Then she went to the new foundation that was made in her hometown of Canton, Ohio called Sancta Clara [that’s St. Clare’s name in Latin]. She went to Alabama from that monastery. And both monasteries still exist today. They have links on the EWTN website, under ‘Eucharistic Pilgrimages’.

Have you read Raymond Arroyo’s biography of Mother Angelica? He mentions both places.
As Barb has pointed out, they are all the same order. The interesting note about the Poor Clares is that they go under different names, but they are all members of the Poor Sisters founded by St. Francis and St. Clare. The reason that they can go by different names is because each house eventually becomes autonomous. When Francis and Clare wrote the rule for the nuns they copied the Benedictine custom of making each monastery an autonomous community, unlike the two other orders that St. Francis founded. We’re not autonomous. Every house is connected to a Mother House and all the houses are governed by the same superior. But the Poor Clares did not have that obligation.

Eventually, the houses being founded by the PCPA from AL will become autonomous monasteries and be able to elect their own abbess. Just like the nuns in Henceville are autonomous from the nuns in OH where Mother came from. The house in Cleveland has been very prosperous. They gave birth to the house in Canton, which gave birth to the house in Irondale, now Henceville and San Antonio and Arizona. But they also gave birth to the house in Washington, DC. I don’t know what house that one may have given birth to. LOL.

For a group of celibate women, they are giving birth an awful lot. I say that in jest. I love my Franciscan sisters in both orders.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
I didn’t know that they were coming to NC. That’s great news to have them come to the Southeast. Thanks for the news.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
Yep-from the looks of the pictures posted on their website, it seems that the move took place not many days ago. Some of the MFVA friars from Irondale helped them pack up, then unpack once they got to Charlotte. Their new ‘temporary’ home is-guess what-a former convent!

The nuns-the three who originally came from Hanceville, one in first profession [can’t miss her-she’s a native of Haiti] and one novice-were invited last year by the new Bishop of Charlotte to come and build a monastery. They had some vocations in Ohio, but they didn’t persevere. They thought and prayed about it, and so now they’ve come back to the South!

At least when the MFVAs come and visit, they won’t have such a long journey from Alabama. 😃
 
I am currently reading Mother Mary Francis’ book called, “A Right to Be Merry.” She was a Poor Clare Nun in Roswell, NM. She passed away in 2006. The book is all about the new foundation (she originally entered in Chicago), and the life of a Poor Clare. If you are interested in their life, I would definitely recommend reading it. I bought my copy from Amazon. It’s printed by Ignatius Press.

I was thinking about visiting them earlier in my discernment, but I am called to the Carmelites. I am not called to be cloistered though. 🙂 I am thinking about joining the Carmelite Sisters of Divine Heart of Jesus in Milwaukee, WI, but that won’t be for a while.

I would recommend the Roswell, NM Poor Clare Colettines (poorclaresroswell.com/)), the Poor Clares of Belleville, IL (poorclares-belleville.info/) (click “Watch Our Video” for a view of their life; it’s beautiful and had me in tears!), and the Rockford, IL Poor Clares (my friend is looking at this community) (rockfordpoorclares.org/)//)

There is a website with all the monasteries in the United States listed. There’s even other countries listed like Africa, Australia, Belgium, etc., if you feel called to leave the US.

poorclare.org/blog/

God bless you and know that you are in my prayers!
I read your message, and felt in my heart to leave you the website we use:
www.poorfriars.net
or
www.poornuns.net

By clicking on these 2 photos you may see some vocational films that well express our Carmelite/Fransiscan Charisma:

Vocational Video 1:
nuke.fratipoveri.net/Portals/0/esperienze%20voazionali/Momenti%20vocazionali%20dei%20Piccoli%20Frati%20e%20Sorelle%20con%20i%20giovani.JPG

Vocational Video 2:
http://nuke.fratipoveri.net/Portals/0/gruppi%20ADP/Alleati%20dei%20Piccoli/Consacrati%20V.V…JPG


I hope you enjoy them. Holy meditation and Best withes of Holiness.
Friar Anthony.
 
To any looking at the wonderful way of life of the Poor Clares …you might find the following book and/ or site interesting.

A book of short vocational stories written by Poor Clares from different communities…

Wrapped in Joy Franciscan Poor Clare Sisters Share Special Stories
Sister Katherine, O.S.C. [DWH Publishing}

Also the following site http://poorclare.org/ has a list of many Poor Clare Communities around the world, including links to many communites.
Blessings to all on this Divine Mercy Sunday!
 
May God bless you in you search. do not fear he will guide you.’ You would not be looking for him unless he had already found you’. St augustine.
 
Actually, the Poor Clares first famous in France were not the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration, who at the time of their foundation were not even called Poor Clares. I think they did not use the Poor Clare name until after Vatican 2.
What did take place in France & was very important to both the Church & the Franciscan
Family was the Reform of St. Collette which was the start of the Poor Clare Collettines.
By her time (a few 100 years after St. Clare) most of the Poor Clares had become somewhat lax & St. Collette recalled them to their Primitive fervor.
 
Actually, the Poor Clares first famous in France were not the Poor Clares of Perpetual Adoration, who at the time of their foundation were not even called Poor Clares. I think they did not use the Poor Clare name until after Vatican 2.
What did take place in France & was very important to both the Church & the Franciscan
Family was the Reform of St. Collette which was the start of the Poor Clare Collettines.
By her time (a few 100 years after St. Clare) most of the Poor Clares had become somewhat lax & St. Collette recalled them to their Primitive fervor.
I think you’re right about them-I remember from Raymond Arroyo’s biography of Mother Angelica that the name was originally ‘Franciscan Nuns of the Blessed Sacrament’. That was at the time of Mother’s entrance at the Monastery in Cleveland in 1944.
 
The PCPA are not part of the the OSC. They were founded as separate Franciscan community. They were given the option of becoming Second Order Franciscans or Third Order Franciscans. For a while, they were Third Order. However, since the sisters in the Third Order are either secular or women religious, the PCPA did not fit in. They are neither secular nor women religious. They are nuns. Eventually, they became part of the Second Order Franciscan. However, they do not follow the Rule of St. Clare. They follow the Rule of St. Benedict. That’s how Mother Angelica was able to move around the world. The Rule of St. Benedict calls for stability, but not for strict enclosure. That’s the Rule of St. Clare. Observe that you do not see the OSC (Order of St. Clare) on TV or outside of their cloister. There is a third branch of the Poor Clares that sign with the PC (Poor Clares). They often have a title after the PC such as Collatines, Capuchin, etc. They too follow the Rule of St. Clare in its first version, the version written by St. Francis, not by Clare. Clare’s version of the rule was mitigated by Pope Gregory IX. About two days before her death, he finally conceded to the privilege of poverty as a revealed right of the Franciscan Order. This was a sticky point, because the church does not acknowledge as public revelation anything after the death of the last Apostle. However, St. Francis maintained that the rule had been revealed to him by Christ himelf and could not be changed or watered down.

Because this was considered private revelation, the popes did not take this allegation too seriously in 1209. It was in 1223 that Pope Honorius finally acknowledged that the rule was Divinely Revealed to Francis and he put a Papal Bull on the Rule for the Friars and the Secular Franciscans, but not on the Rule for the Poor Ladies. That Bull came later from Gregory IX, who had been a close friend of Francis and had canonized Francis. Gregory was convinced that the rule was Divinely inspired, to use his words. He yielded to Clare’s petition and granted the privilege of poverty as long as the order used her rescript of the Rule of St. Francis.

Later, St. Collette, would return to the Rule written by St. Francis as a point of reference ot understand what Clare was trying to say in her own rewrite of the rule. That’s what caused the laxity. Clare’s rescript of the rule had too much influence from the Benedictine tradition, because she had been forced to live under the Benedictine Rule until two days before her death.

When the Franciscan Sisters of the Blessed Sacrament (PCPA) were formed, they took the Benedictine version of the Franciscan rule. Later, this would prove advantageous to them, especially in the USA, because most American women find the Franciscan version of the Poor Clare Rule to be too ascetic, while the Benedictine versioin is more flexible, especially in the area of poverty.

Fraternally,

Br. JR, OSF 🙂
 
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