Pope’s climate views press Catholic candidates

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Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum, a practicing Catholic, on Sunday defended his criticism ‎of Pope Francis for weighing in on global warming, saying “there are more pressing problems on Earth” for the pontiff to be tackling.

The former Pennsylvania senator on “Fox News Sunday” also argued that it’s more appropriate for him and other lawmakers than the pope to speak publicly on the issue because they make public policy decisions that affect American workers.

Those decisions, he said, include ones on ozone regulations, efforts to revitalize U.S. manufacturing and energy production and creating job opportunities.

foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/07/santorum-says-lawmakers-have-better-standing-than-pope-on-climate-change-issue

I can’t believe Santorum has decided to take this position.
 
I find it hard to take a man seriously in other facets of life, when he’s content telling the leader of the Church he claims to be a part of to, in not so many words, shove off.
 
Kind of strange for a member of the faithful to be giving advice to the Vicar of Christ.
 
Global warming hardly is a priority for the faithful.

Even if it is a bigger act of faith to believe in global warming than it is to believe in the resurrection.:rolleyes:
 
I am surprised the Pope ever weighed in on the global warming political movement, and it is that; a political movement rather than a scientific fact.
 
Kind of strange for a member of the faithful to be giving advice to the Vicar of Christ.
I disagree with Santorum’s view, and find it immodest, but it isn’t strange at all for a member of the faithful to give advice to the Vicar of Christ. The Vicar of Christ takes advice on a daily basis and he has taken advice since the 1st century.
 
I am surprised the Pope ever weighed in on the global warming political movement, and it is that; a political movement rather than a scientific fact.
It shouldn’t be any more surprising than the Pope weighing in on poverty or children never receiving an education or having a mother and father. Environmental concerns quite black-and-whitely fall under a corporal work of mercy.
 
I’m sure His Holiness is as grateful as is appropriate for Mr. Santorum’s attempt to set his priorities for him.

Although, of course, his view of the importance of maintaining the earth as a viable living place seems to be at odds with Mr. Santorum’s. Perhaps it’s his far greater scientific knowledge that’s responsible for that discrepancy.
 
I didn’t perceive it as ‘giving the Pope advice’ but I agree…there are more pressing matters that his Holiness could address.
 
The Holy See’s powers include healing the blind, curing the leper, immunity to venom, speaking in tongues, and the ability to multitask. It may or may not be extremely pressing, but it’s not as though the Pope is a one-trick-pony. Think of the gargantuan volume of topics any Pope addresses during their pontificate.
 
Isn’t His Holiness was free to say pretty much whatever he feels like?

Just because Mr. Santorum doesn’t like Pope Francis’s position on climate change; doesn’t mean that the Holy See can’t take a position.

The Roman Pontiff has been taking positions on all kinds of issues for as long as there has been a Roman Pontiff.

What are the “more pressing problems” Mr. Santorum is speaking of? Is Mr. Santorum doing anything himself to address these “more pressing problems”? Or is Rick Santorum content to let Pope Francis solve the world’s problems with no help from him?

I wonder…
 
I find it hard to take a man seriously in other facets of life, when he’s content telling the leader of the Church he claims to be a part of to, in not so many words, shove off.
So expressing an opinion is telling the Pope to shone off?
 
Santorum is the latest in a long line of American cafeteria Catholics who think Popes should stay away from issues dear to them that conflict with Church teaching. In this case, it is concern for the environment that gets in the way of exploitative capitalism.
 
So expressing an opinion is telling the Pope to shone off?
A Catholic politician doing so publicly… Yes, is telling the Pope to “shove off”

The only reason for Santorum to do this is to distance himself from the Vatican, the same way JFK did.

I really wish Catholic politicians (Republican or Democrat; right or left) would stop distancing themselves from the Bishops and/or stop apologizing for their faith.

I really wish they would be Catholic first and for most.
 
I don’t think it is His Holiness that is wasting the public’s time. I think it is just an average politician who is wasting our time with unimportant editorials. The real question here is what is the REAL motive of why this statement was made. Who is he trying to impress? Certainly not us.
 
I didn’t perceive it as ‘giving the Pope advice’ but I agree…there are more pressing matters that his Holiness could address.
Same here.

Santorum is a man running for one of two tickets to compete for the President of the United States.

Taken in that context, where pressing issues are at the top of every candidates list (and those issues differ depending on the candidate…), I think his statement makes sense, even if one disagrees with the weight global warming should be given. It isn’t as though he sent the Pope an email lecturing him. He is the most prominent Catholic running on either ticket, tickets typically dominated by non-Catholics. If anything, it shows the weight he believes the Vicar of Christ has when he speaks through encyclicals. I suspect Joe Average Citizen has little knowledge an encyclical is even coming, frankly. And it isn’t as though you can’t go back and find topic after topic on here discussing and debating things said by JP II, Benedict XVI, or Pope Francis. Is that beneath this website too?

Though I tend to personally agree with Santorum, I think everyone should reserve judgment until we see the text the Holy Father has for us.
 
I believe His Holiness has done an amazing job of covering a very wide range of issues that the world faces. Sure, this isn’t the absolute most important issue, but does that mean it shouldn’t be discussed? How far up on the priority list does something have to be before he can face it? “The Pope should leave poverty to the economists” would be a ridiculous statement, even though there are certainly more important issues than poverty.
Also, it’s important to remember that the Pope isn’t only a religious leader- he’s a head of state!!! Would/should Mr. Santorum tell the Mexican president, or the British prime minister, etc. what their priorities should be?
 
Kind of strange for a member of the faithful to be giving advice to the Vicar of Christ.
🤷 Catherine of Sienna did it. Paul too. Before they were saints.

Neither opposed Papal teaching on faith or morals. Nor does Santorum.

Catherine urged the Pope(s) to return to Rome from Avignon, France (which after some reflection they did); Paul urged Peter to live UP to his teachings on the Christian unity between Jews and Gentiles. (And Peter did … his TEACHING was true, his example was poor, Paul counseled).

Santorum getting his :twocents: in on the issue of “climate change” (which doesn’t sound like a faith and morals subject) ***before ***Francis’ encyclical is issued seems within his rights.

Could be a tempest in a teapot again. A bad English interpretation of Francis’ Gaudium Evangelii coupled with worldwide headlines on a section where Francis gave a caution about capitalism, i.e. “trickle down economics” – had it looking like the Pope was critiquing the (rather successful IMO) American *Reaganomics * as the trickle down terminology was first coined by the Reagan administration’s David Stockman.

Pope Francis later clarified his statement (made in Spanish and Italian) and disavowed Marxism when he did.

I haven’t yet heard a single particular about the purportedly upcoming “encyclical” on climate change. Are there a host of new mortal sins about to be defined?

Are the soccer moms who drive SUVs for safety and convenience really destroying the planet (in 100 years) with their unconscionable refusal to drive hybrids or smart cars?

Is Francis going to reveal that he’s had a communique from God on the line of Peter’s dream that changed the Kosher laws (Acts 10 - 11) – that will better explain the importance of this seemingly secular issue to our spiritual life?

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Pope John Paul II and Pope Benedict spoke of stewardship too. And polluting at will is of course, just departure from common sense. Then too, Francis is not American (that is not of the USA) and may have other countries a bit more in mind than the U.S. which used to have far more pollution in its steel towns, before catalytic converters were mandated on every car, and prior to many more environmental successes in my lifetime.

Santorum may still be stung by the REPORTED comment Francis made about Catholics not needing to “breed like rabbits”. With seven children, and having stood up for, and taken heat for the Church’s well known teachings on birth control, Santorum may have felt a bit let down. IMO the Pontiff may have been speaking off the cuff again … and making a different point … to whit, it is an exaggeration of Catholic teaching to conclude that a Catholic family “must try to have as many children as humanly possible” (which some people do think it teaches).

I must insert that married couples who remain open to life at all times (like they did in the OLD days?) are quite an astounding witness in this day. My parents had eight kids. I have none (was only married for 3 1/2 years). My spouse is in heaven now I hope. I never remarried. But I digress.

“Man made Climate Change”, based on computer projections of a POTENTIAL future using models – seems to be an obscure extremity in the field of faith and morals IMO – if it is even within that realm at all. :confused:🤷 Proponents don’t call it “Global Warming” anymore after beating that phrase into the ground - due to what is now called a multi-year “pause” in the curve of the projections (it’s been colder than predicted in the short run, and so, NOT so “globally warm”).

MAN gets blamed for some of the (possible) coming disaster(s). Often by groups that make a lot of money and are given a lot of power for saying so. 🤷 When I wonder what my personal contribution is supposed to be … it often seems to be … give more power to the political groups who disagree with me on most other points (too)!

I of course will listen to what Pope Francis has to say. I hope he doesn’t call me to help him research some scriptural background recalling God’s past environmental warnings or prophetic warnings on the subject – because frankly, I’m drawing a blank here.

And I do see many OTHER things that could use the strong encouraging voice of the Pope to: call back the erring to following Jesus, better love God and neighbor, turning from sin and exchanging our worldly views for the heavenly treasure (that won’t wear out, can’t be stolen), and that calls our hearts to higher things.

In opining that Pope Francis has more pressing problems than “climate change” – like Santorum, I can think of a few. At this point I’m inclined to think of Santorum as the loyal opposition … and not a person criticizing the Pope just to build up his own gravitas or something.

Papal infallibility is a misunderstood doctrine in its own right. Teaching “truly” does not necessarily mean “teaching with the most excellent priorities”. For those non-Catholics that think Catholics see Popes as sort of demi-gods, it will be noted that not every Pope gets canonized as a saint later. Even some that probably ARE by now.

Francis gets misunderstood a lot … and part of it may be his own problem of speaking off the cuff and informally so often, when his immediate predecessors were a bit more formal, laconic and doctrinally clear (IMO). The “who am I to judge …” paraphrase of his led some to conclude he’d given a green light to homosexual sex acts … not true of course … and he later clarified.

Critics of Catholicism may rejoice in this seeming conflict between the Pope and one of the most well known publicly faithful American Catholics. But the resolution of the question may lead to some good things. I like Santorum and Francis … and consider both sincere. I may learn some things from the coming exchange. 😃
 
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