Pope appoints Cardinal Tagle to head Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples

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I think some of the grumbling about Cardinal Tagle is because he is usually identified as being more in line with the Marx/Cupich/Kasper school of theology, and while he is definitely no conservative or traditionalist, I wouldn’t lump him in with those other Cardinals, personally. He will definitely be a top contender in the next conclave, and if I had to bet on one guy it would probably be him. He’s young (will definitely be in the next conclave unless Pope Francis lives to be 100), non-European/American and non-white, charismatic, a prolific writer, a polyglot, and well-known enough even before this major appointment to attract votes in a conclave. Everything that is seemingly required to be elected Pope nowadays, this guy has. There were rumors awhile back that Pope Francis wanted him to succeed him, and was grooming him for that eventuality, but then soured on him because he felt that Cardinal Tagle would be in over his head in running the whole Catholic Church (which may be true based on what I’ve heard about him). I guess that thinking has probably gone out the window now though given what we now know for sure with this appointment. He definitely wouldn’t be my first choice as Pope, but I think with all things considered he would be a slight upgrade from our current situation.

I’ll always remember him for this slightly cringey and maybe unintentionally funny video though:

 
You are right, but I think in reality the Cardinals do not see it that way. There has always been bias against Cardinals of certain nationalities and races when it comes to Papal conclaves. Ask anyone what they think about the chances of an American becoming Pope, for example.
HvonB said:
There are other candidates such as Cardinal Sarah, a man who has suffered and has written some wonderful books.
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I would love for this to happen, though with the current makeup of the College of Cardinals, I wouldn’t count on it. A surprise could happen, however.
 
Not a fan. He seems to be willing to compromise doctrine to evangelize. this is evil
 
“Do not worry about tomorrow; tomorrow will take care of itself. Sufficient for a day is its own evil.”

On the face of it, the OP is about today — Pope Francis appoints Cardinal Tagle to head Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples.

Seems like a lot of people are worrying about the next papal election. That’s tomorrow.
 
HvonB said:
Why can it “only” be a good thing?
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I am sure that you are perfectly familiar with the phrase “x can only be a good thing”. It means that there is no conceivable aspect of the thing stated that could be interpreted as being anything other than good; nothing about the thing stated can be construed as being bad. I am wondering what could possibly be bad about a cardinal who is close to the pope, share’s the pope’s vision, is concerned for the poor, and leads a lifestyle of poverty.
 
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He seems to be willing to compromise doctrine to evangelize.
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He “seems to be”? What has he actually said or done that compromises doctrine?
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From the quotes about gay and remarried Catholics. And he is said to follow in Pope Francis’ footsteps and a fan of synodal church

Also, the videos of him trying to be hip and cool are a red flag to me that his idea of evangelzing the youth is to relate to them instead of preaching the gospel and truth
 
Could you give us a few of those quotes about gay and remarried Catholics?
Is following in the footsteps of the Pope a bad thing?
I don’t know what you mean by synodal Church (probably my own ignorance).
How do you evangelize without relating?
Relating to people and preaching truth are not mutually exclusive.
 
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You can like and indeed love a man while considering that the is not conducting his office well.
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Is this revealed to you by God? I am not saying that it isn’t.
The Pope is not a man, he is a bishop. He is a bishop above bishops if you are Catholic. I am EO, for me he is the Bishop of Rome until further notice.
To Bishops we owe obedience and to God, Who has granted them the charisma of bishopry, patience and meekness. It is a huge thing to say a Bishop hence also the Pope of Rome is not leading things the right way. Misleading means heresy. To consider a Bishop a heretic is a huge thing.
The Pope, like him or not, is a Bishop. He has a charisma. Commenting about his actions is not about like or dislike. Are you certain he is misleading, or, in your own words, not conducting things well? Are you certain God disapproves of what he does?
 
I don’t see anything alarming in that article by itself.

And while I’m loathe to engage in spin, it’s probably a bit necessary here. Cardinal Tagle is Filipino, and knows first-hand how Filipinos work, as do I. Filipinos have pretty harsh native words and slurs for homosexuals, unwed mothers, the separated and those in other “unconventional” situations. Such language is also still more socially tolerated than they are in the West.

If this is what he is referring to, then he is right. If we’re to translate this to Western language, you won’t lead anyone to Christ by calling him a fag.
 
Thanks for that article. I myself do not find those quotations alarming. I am taking care not to read in more than what he actually said, which, as I understand it, is reaching out to sinners in charity in order to bring them back to the faith and the Church. Pretty basic Christianity.
 
Chicoms?! You mean Chinese Communist?

I don’t know much about international politics, but I gather that Philippines does not take orders from China.
 
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Beryllos said:
Thanks for that article. I myself do not find those quotations alarming. I am taking care not to read in more than what he actually said, which, as I understand it, is reaching out to sinners in charity in order to bring them back to the faith and the Church. Pretty basic Christianity.
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Fair enough but IMO, not reading into quotes and looking at all the warning signs is a disservice to Catholicism and how we got in the position we are right now. It is burying our heads in the sand and not getting involved
 
IMO, reading into quotes often leads to rash judgment. I prefer to read the quotes as they stand.
 
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