Your post is nonsensical. First of all, because you say “live and let die,” yet you consider incest a “filthy, criminal affair.” On what basis?
Right…so you don’t approve of incestual relationships despite the fact that it doesn’t bring any harm to you. Why do you disapprove? Because it is bad for the society long-term. I agree. Guess what? I also believe that normalizing homosexual relationships is bad for society long-term.
I see !!Apparently, you don’t allow others to use the same thought process that you use.
I didn’t say you must agree with me…but it would be nice if your logic had some consistency.
Well , 1 thing is clear , they can’t get kids ,Guess what? I also believe that normalizing homosexual relationships is bad for society long-term.
It would still be contrary to nature.
How do you know that for/so sure ??
Um…seriously?
Biology 101, my friend.Chah! 1971! 2005 was a waste of cellulose (if they still use that)…it’s the difference between quirky Wonka (Wilder) and creepy, could easily be a S/M pedophile Wonka (Depp).OFF-Topic:
btw: Willy Wonka , 1971 or 2005 ??
I prefere 1971
The Church never said that they should live together. The Church says that we must include them in our communities and families, if they are our children or siblings etc. That’s not the same.In all seriousness, this is a HUGE stumbling block for me. It is not that I don’t feel for people for people with homosexual tendencies. My heart goes out to them. I, myself, struggle with lust for women. I don’t try to justify it though. At least, I am looking at women. After all, God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. While my lust may be sinful, at least it’s natural. It appears from the one of the bulletin points that the Church accepts people struggling with homosexual tendencies living togetherI would not accept this for my daughter and her boyfriend. My advice to people who call themselves homosexuals is live celibately and don’t get caught in the trap of identifying yourself, as “homosexual”. You are so much more!
This is a demand in the area of morality. The Church has the authority to make demands in both faith and morals.
This was an excellent post.Hate the sin but LOVE THE SINNER.
The Catholic Church considers everyone to be sinners in need of redemption. Those who commit homosexual sin are not labeled by the Church as homosexuals, but sinners. We are not defined by our sins. Otherwise we should all be labeled by our most grievous sins. I’m not telling what my name would be.
I became a Catholic primarily because I wanted to be in a safe place that wasn’t going to budge on this issue. When I was protestant, it seemed that there were only two choices for people. Either get married, or you’re gay.
It’s not like that in the Catholic Church. We have three vocations: Consecrated celibacy, Marriage, or a vocation to singleness, which includes being celibate. Chastity is expected in all vocations by all Catholics.
While you are checking out the Catholic Church, check into the Theology of the Body. John Paul 2 spent several years of his pontificate discoursing on the theology of sexuality as a response to the sexual revolution that the world was going through when he became Pope.
www.christopherwest.com
I suggest you read up. Don’t be afraid to come on over, it’s a good place to be standing on the Rock.
I would suggest that we take His Holiness’ statement in its broadest context. We have to save us from ourselves. His statement was not about starting a counter campaign against an activist group. The Church has never operated that way.
You are very correct. Charity is not the same as permissiveness. At the same time, charity comes after justice. While we cannot condone same gender sex, we cannot assume an anti-gay attitude which many Christians seem to propose.
Actually, it depends on what you mean by that. If you are referring to being hateful towards people in the “gay” community and others who struggle with same sex attraction, then you are absolutely correct. However, there is nothing uncharitable about being anti-gay, in the sense of having counter campaigns against “gay marriage” and other attempts to normalize homosexual relationships in our society. We need to be very clear about where we stand. This will upset Catholics who are in favor of normalizing homosexual relationships, but this can’t be helped.You are very correct. Charity is not the same as permissiveness. At the same time, charity comes after justice. While we cannot condone same gender sex, **we cannot assume an anti-gay attitude **which many Christians seem to propose.
The Divine Will for man is that we reach holiness together, regardless of our sexual orientation.
JR
It is very hard, however, to have a dialog when every statement against the destructiveness of homosexuality is viewed as “homophobic”. Indeed, if one isn’t completely on board with the homosexual lobby, then one is viewed as a bigot.You are very correct. Charity is not the same as permissiveness. At the same time, charity comes after justice. While we cannot condone same gender sex, we cannot assume an anti-gay attitude which many Christians seem to propose.
The Divine Will for man is that we reach holiness together, regardless of our sexual orientation.
JR
When I use the term “anti-gay” I’m referring to insulting, laughing at another’s expense, depriving another of their self-respect, denying them the right to be our friends and family, denying the right to participate in our community life and all the rights that belong to everyone.
In that, we are in full agreement.When I use the term “anti-gay” I’m referring to insulting, laughing at another’s expense, depriving another of their self-respect, denying them the right to be our friends and family, denying the right to participate in our community life and all the rights that belong to everyone.
I hope that’s clearer.
Happy and Holy Christmas!
JR
