Pope Benedict XVI 'to resign'

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Arinze is ideal, looks 30 or 20 years younger, one has to be careful to not be intimidated and stand up for what is right, even against irresponsible and cruel behavior. Of course, when you question the motivations of some even if those motivations oppress or may be illegal or are bad intentions towards others, haha, it is best to** ignore** them and carry on.
 
BroomWagon said:
Arinze is ideal, looks 30 or 20 years younger, one has to be careful to not be intimidated and stand up for what is right, even against irresponsible and cruel behavior. Of course, when you question the motivations of some even if those motivations oppress or may be illegal or intended towards others, haha, it is best to ignore them and carry on.
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No, at 80, I think he’s too old. I’d rather have Turkson or Tagle.
 
vames said:
I still hope his promised encyclical on faith will be published…
ncregister.com/daily-news/papal-encyclical-on-faith-announced
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Agreed. I was really hoping that, since he time his year of Faith and the synod on the New Evangelization with the opening of Vatican II, he was going to give us some clear guidance in the form of an encyclical on his directive to read the documents of the Council within the continuity of Sacred Tradition. Since he was there at the Council, and the Hermeneutic of Continuity has been hallmark of his pontificate, it would have been a great gift to the Church.
 
AllSeasons said:
Yea, I think I’d feel a bit depressed if that happened. Haha! Luckily, I’m still in my early thirties.

But instead of guessing who’s going to be the next Pope, I want to refocus on Pope Benedict for a bit. He still has a little over 2 weeks in office. What do you think his legacy will be? I suppose it has been a bit of a transitional period after John Paul II, but I think he’s made his imprint on the papacy nonetheless. He’s also had to lead the Church through the sex abuse scandal, which was/is a difficult time for the Church. ** I think he’s also laid the groundwork for whoever becomes the next Pope. ** I think that maybe 50 years down the line, and we look back, we will perhaps see JPII, Benedict, and the next Pope as an era of holding fast to traditional Catholic teachings in a fast-changing modern world. Anyway, just my $0.02.
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haha, wait til a president and a Pope and your doctor is younger than you.😃
But, seriously, yes…
He’s leaving on my last day, too. Didn’t realize…
 
This has been a great thread, for the most part very loving of the Holy Father, what he deserves. And for the most part serious and heartfelt.
 
mburn16 said:
“Because this resignation sets a dangerous precedent for all this pope’s successors”

I disagree. In fact, it may set an entirely appropriate precedent: step aside when you are no longer physically or mentally capable of of being a wholly effective advocate for Christ and the Church. Think back, before Pope John Paul II, who was the last Pope who became truly frail while in office? Certainly nobody who had to deal with the modern expectations of travel, media, etc. It is a far more demanding job than it used to be, and since modern medicine has lengthened the gap between how long someone remains vigorous and how long they actually live, its quite likely we’ll see more Popes in the future who find their bodies or minds giving out before the other does.

The Papacy is bigger than one man, and is a hugely important role that requires great attention. To remain on the throne when you are incapable does a far greater disservice to the mission.

JPII was a special case, in that his mission was largely associated with the dignity of human life at all stages, in all places, and in whatever condition. He taught the world about suffering, and aging with dignity and grace. Benedict’s mission is different, it seems.
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Sorry, but I’d like to give a firm “no” on Turkson. The Catholic church doesn’t need to spend the next 20 years warding off another round of apocalyptic conspiracy theorists.
 
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BroomWagon:
It’s the highest metallic structure in a very large area. I bet it gets hit with lightning a lot.

In fact if I’m not mistaken, the obelisk has a lighting rod on it to anticipate things like that.
 
unfortunately, Cardinal Turkson’s first name is…Peter. The prophecy of the popes followers would have a multi-year field day predicting our impending doom.
 
The prophecy refers to Peter of Rome. I think Cardinal Turkson would actually be less likely to take the name of Peter than the other candidates because it’s already his first name, Plus, he’s from Ghana, not Rome. In order to tie him to the prophecy, they’d have to do some mental gymnastics to tie “Peter” and “from Rome” simultaneously.
 
stormcloud said:
The prophecy refers to Peter of Rome. I think Cardinal Turkson would actually be less likely to take the name of Peter than the other candidates because it’s already his first name, Plus, he’s from Ghana, not Rome. In order to tie him to the prophecy, they’d have to do some mental gymnastics to tie “Peter” and “from Rome”.
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He has been living in Rome for the past few years. That’s enough of a link for the tinfoil brigade. Heck, it’s probably enough for them that he’s Roman Catholic :hypno:
 
Most of the Prophecy of St. Malachy fellas think Peter the Roman is Tarcisio Bertone. But I’m sure they would jump all over Cardinal Turkson.
 
A lot of people say that Cardinal Dolan is a long shot but wasn’t Pope John Paul II a long shot as well?
 
Bl_Pope_Pius_IX said:
I’d see Burke over Dolan.
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I’d love to see either one, but there’s a very strong reason why not. Since the US is the last super power, it would give the impression of the US influencing the Catholic Church, or the other way around and that would cause serious problems for both.
 
The_Bucket said:
Maybe it is a precedent. Maybe it’s not. Maybe it’s something that will happen over the next few papacies or maybe it’s a one-off. I don’t know. But his point is quite salient and rest assured that the Lord is here with us, with you and with our Holy Father. You need not feel abandoned.
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Thank you, Bucket. I agree. As I have thought about this more and talked to people I love and trust, I’m sure that this decision weighed heavily on Pope Benedict’s heart and that he felt called to make it. We will see what it means both in the short and long term. Regardless, the Church and the papacy will survive.

Pope Benedict was nearby and heavily involved in the events of Pope JP II’s decline and death, and I’m sure that experience and all it entailed (which we will never know in detail) were large factors in his decision. He is certainly doing what he thinks is best for the Church based on prayer, introspection, and personal experience.

Tricia Frances
 
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