Pope calls 'communist crucifix' protest art, but says he wasn't offended [CNA]

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http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/i..._8_2015_Credit_LOsservatore_Romano.jpgVatican City, Jul 13, 2015 / 09:18 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Responding to waves of controversy after receiving a “communist crucifix” – a carving of Christ crucified on a hammer and sickle – from Bolivian president Evo Morales, Pope Francis said he took no offense, but understands the work as “protest art.”

“I would qualify it as protest art, which in some cases can be offensive,” the Pope said during an inflight news conference on his July 12 overnight flight from Paraguay to Rome.

But given the context of this piece of art, he added that he understands the idea behind the crucifix, and “for me it wasn’t an offense.”

He recalled an exhibition in Buenos Aires several years ago in which an Argentinian artist he described as “a good sculptor, creative,” and who is now deceased, made a similar piece depicting a crucified Christ on an airplane.

“It was protest art, and I recall one, it was a crucified Christ on a bomber (airplane) that was falling down, no? It’s Christianity, but a criticism that let’s say Christianity allied with imperialism which is the bomber.”

The crucifix, which the Pope revealed was traveling with him back to Rome, was given to him by leftist Bolivian Evo Morales on Thursday, sparking controversy.

The cross with a hammer and sickle is a reproduction of another carved during the 1970s by Fr. Luis Espinal Camps, a Spanish Jesuit who was a missionary in Bolivia who was killed in 1980 during the Bolivian dictatorship.

The Pope’s reaction after receiving the crucifix has been a source of debate since the audio of the video is marred due to the clicking of journalists’ cameras.

Francis said that he had been unaware that Fr. Espinal, in addition to his work as a journalist, was also a sculptor and a poet.

He noted that during his life, Fr. Espinal had sympathies with the Marxist interpretation of Liberation Theology, which at that time was widely popular in South America.

It was criticized both within the Society of Jesus (the Jesuits), to which both Pope Francis and Fr. Espinal belong, in 1980, and later in by the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith in their first declaration on Liberation Theology, in 1984.

Taking a “hermeneutic” approach to the crucifix – one that involves an interpretive act of understanding with an emphasis on dialogue – the Pope made an analysis of the times, saying that Fr. Espinal “was an enthusiast of this analysis of the Marxist reality, but also of theology using Marxism.”

It was from this perspective that Espinal created the work, he said, noting that the priest’s poetry was also “of this kind of protest.”

“But, it was his life, it was his thought. He was a special man, with so much human geniality, who fought in good faith, no?”

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He may not have been, but faithful Catholics all over the world were and continue to be, and are increasingly frustrated with the Holy Father’s obvious leftist sympathies.

Catholics all over should read the Church’s numerous condemnations of communism and socialism.
 
I read this earlier too. Seems that he didn’t know that this was the crucifix of the so called martyred priest. I doubt that St.John Paul would have approved of this either. Pope Francis on accepting this gives an ok to communist sympathizer so while he condemns capitalism. In some ways he seems to be part of the progressive Jesuits theology. I do hope that this isn’t the case. We do need to pray for him and hope the Holy Spirit is working in ways we don’t know. If this was given to him with malice, and Pope Francis responds with kindness, perhaps this was His intention.
 
In most respects he is completely orthodox, but these actions call his sympathies into question, especially when you realize that the Church condemns socialism.
 
To be fair to the pope,I don’t think he consciously has leftist sympathies. He seems naive about leftist claims and motives and attitudes and does not always see that they are wrong if they appear to show concern for the poor and the environment.
 
To be fair to the pope,I don’t think he consciously has leftist sympathies. He seems naive about leftist claims and motives and attitudes and does not always see that they are wrong if they appear to show concern for the poor and the environment.
I’d be curious as to the timeline, how long in Italy has he been? When did he become a Bishop, Cardinal and so on? Well, his wiki bio is here, so I’m not asking these questions be answered, I can find them myself. But if he is naive, he really shouldn’t be that naive. I can understand how it does seem at times, the Popes do not care to offend others.
 
So, is the crucifix supposed to show the harmony between communism and Catholicism? This was my initial impression. Or, as in the bomber/crucifix example the Pope spoke of, is it attempting to be a criticism of Catholicism being allied with communism?

If it’s the former, I will take offense on behalf of the Pope. How many millions of people have been killed under banners displaying the hammer and sickle? The two symbols are directly and inherently opposed to each other and it is blasphemous to combine them in that way.

Dan
 
Since this South American Priest drew this back in 1980 from what I understand, to me, the Communist Crucifix could have inferred that Christians in Communist Nations are on the cross and suffering but that is just me. It is so open to interpretation but remember when the drawing the sculpture is based on was drawn.

But Bolivia’s President is Socialist or Communist? So that kind of disses my interpretation some.
 
I don’t know how anyone can look at that symbol and not be offended.
 
I read this earlier too. Seems that he didn’t know that this was the crucifix of the so called martyred priest. I doubt that St.John Paul would have approved of this either. Pope Francis on accepting this gives an ok to communist sympathizer so while he condemns capitalism. In some ways he seems to be part of the progressive Jesuits theology. I do hope that this isn’t the case. We do need to pray for him and hope the Holy Spirit is working in ways we don’t know. If this was given to him with malice, and Pope Francis responds with kindness, perhaps this was His intention.
The Holy Father never condemned Capitalism. Bishop James Conley set this record straight in this article for National Review:
Evangelii Gaudium did not reject capitalism, or even particular market theories. Instead, it rejected idolatry of any economic system as a panacea, and it called Catholics to human solidarity in the context of public policy. The pope affirmed that markets must be understood and administered in justice, with due regard for the sovereignty and solidarity of families and human dignity. Pope Benedict XVI presented similar ideas in depth in 2009, as did Saint Thomas Aquinas and Saint Augustine. Evangelii Gaudium’s economic message was particularly powerful because it called all of us to consider the consequences of our own financial decisions.
nationalreview.com/node/365197/print
 
I don’t know how anyone can look at that symbol and not be offended.
IMO, this perverted crucifix is a thumb in the eye of Pope Francis, and every other Christian. The hammer and sickle stands for the wanton slaughter of tens of millions of human beings. :mad:
 
I have read several different article about the crucifix. One article states Pope Francis left the gifts in Bolivia, while another article says the Pope made a statement that the crucifix will go back with him to Rome.

Does anyone know, definitively?
 
It’s going to be real interesting in September when Pope Francis visits the U.S.
Then we will know what he means by all this economic lecture.
I really have a hard time believing that I am totally misreading his intentions when I read his speeches directly. You can’t trust the media, read it for yourself.

Never do I remember so much after the fact explaining and clarifying being done. Some of the explanations are so off base I think it’s a way to appease those of us with hurt feelings…but we shall certainly see.
 
There were three gifts. He left two at the feet of Our Lady of Copacabana and took home the full-size commie-crux.
Where did you hear this? I have heard only two gifts…

This morning Francis lay the **two **presidential honours he received Wednesday from President Evo Morales in La Paz, at the feet of Our Lady of Copacabana. One of these featured the hammer and sickle with a carving of a crucifix [sic].

Before leaving Bolivia, Francis placed two gifts he received on Wednesday from President Evo Morales at the foot of a statue of Mary. One of these, a chain with a chunky medallion, had the figure of the crucified Christ carved into a wooden hammer and sickle. This image had been drawn by Fr. Luis Espinal, the Jesuit priest who was assassinated in Bolivia in March 1980.

From Il Stampa
 
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