Pope Creates Panel on Controversial Pius XII Sainthood

[bones_IV]

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Pope Benedict XVI has created a special panel to study the possible sainthood of a predecessor, Pius XII, accused of being apathetic to the fate of Jews during the Nazi era, a report said Tuesday. “The pope does not want to sign and intends to keep a close watch over this sensitive issue,” a Vatican source told I-media news agency, which specializes in coverage of the Holy See. “The best way to postpone a decision is to create a special commission.” The source said the beatification of Pius XII (1939-1958) “could cause a lot of turbulence at a time when relations with the Hebrew state remain tense.” On Monday, the Vatican urged Israel to send out the “positive signals” the pope needs to pave the way for an historic visit to the Holy Land.

WHAT THE HECK!!!

 

[Adonis33]

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Pope Benedict XVI has created a special panel to study the possible sainthood of a predecessor, Pius XII, accused of being apathetic to the fate of Jews during the Nazi era, a report said Tuesday. “The pope does not want to sign and intends to keep a close watch over this sensitive issue,” a Vatican source told I-media news agency, which specializes in coverage of the Holy See. “The best way to postpone a decision is to create a special commission.” The source said the beatification of Pius XII (1939-1958) “could cause a lot of turbulence at a time when relations with the Hebrew state remain tense.” On Monday, the Vatican urged Israel to send out the “positive signals” the pope needs to pave the way for an historic visit to the Holy Land.

WHAT THE HECK!!!

Why the need for a panel? I find it upsetting that they would hold up his canonization for political reasons.

Maybe I don’t understand the Vatican.

 

[bones_IV]

Why the need for a panel? I find it upsetting that they would hold up his canonization for political reasons.

Maybe I don’t understand the Vatican.

It’s ultimately the Pope’s decision really. If that’s the powers that be, then so be it.

 

[Michael_C]

Israel should be very vocal about their support for the cannonization of Pope Pius XII. If the Catholic Church does in fact stand for the truth all the urban legends in the world should not delay for one second the cannonization of the one leader in the world who did more to save jews than any other leader of that time.

 

[Rand_Al_Thor]

Israel should be very vocal about their support for the cannonization of Pope Pius XII. If the Catholic Church does in fact stand for the truth all the urban legends in the world should not delay for one second the cannonization of the one leader in the world who did more to save jews than any other leader of that time.

Exactly–there have been several Jewish leaders who have been quite vocal in defending Pius XII.

In Christ,
Rand

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

Why the need for a panel? I find it upsetting that they would hold up his canonization for political reasons.

Maybe I don’t understand the Vatican.

Never ever discount the politics ​

FWIW:

• the beatification of Innocent XI in 1956 had taken all of 267 years - & he is still only beatus. Like a lot of others.
• So - making allowances for changes in the canon law on these things - the cause of Pius XII has made progress very quickly. It’s not even 50 years since he died.
• 2007 is the 400th year since the death of Cesare Baronio (Cong. Orat.) - & he has been a mere Venerabilis since 1745; that’s 262 years.
  All these causes have had political issues to deal with - so that sort of obstacle is not new

 

[RomanCrusader]

I have a rosary blessed by Pius XII

 

[childofmary1143]

My Dad and I watched the movie “The Scarlet and the Black” and it was about a Monsignor O’Flaherty who was hiding Allied soldiers during WW2 in the Vatican.

It had Sir John Gielgud playing Pope Pius XII and I wondered if people here felt it was historically accurate?

 

[Strider]

My Dad and I watched the movie “The Scarlet and the Black” and it was about a Monsignor O’Flaherty who was hiding Allied soldiers during WW2 in the Vatican.

It had Sir John Gielgud playing Pope Pius XII and I wondered if people here felt it was historically accurate?

Absolutely not! I saw it when it first came out and just recently again. Gielgud (or the script, diector, etc.) made Pius XII look weak and indecisive. He was anything but that.
There are a few recent books out that reveal the truth.
Try The Myth of Hitlewr’s Pope By Rabbi David Dalin. Even looking up the NYTimes of those years gives the truth.

 

[st_julie]

I am halfway through Righteous Gentiles by Ron Rychlak. Another excellent book.

 

[Holly3278]

I personally think this is a wise decision on the part of the Pope.

 

[johnstown_johnn]

Pope Pius XII was a very holy man and a great spiritual leader.

 

[bones_IV]

Pope Pius XII was a very holy man and a great spiritual leader.

Indeed. He was slandered by the Nazis just as he was by the Communists.

“Another Jesuit, Father Gunlach, who had been given the task of finding the documentation for Pius XI, wrote to Father La Fargue, after the project had finally been dropped: ‘It is wrong to dispense the bourgeoisie, above all the Catholic bourgeoisie, from any real sacrifice, playing on the fear of Communists attacking religion and the Church… It is necessary to understand that this mad race myth supported by National Socialism is likely to become as dangerous for the world as Communism’” (Page 176 from Fattorini’s Pius XI, Hitler and Mussolini: A Pope’s Solitude).

**Cardinal Bertone:

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1. A “Black Legend”
   The figure of Eugenio Pacelli, Pope Pius XII, by now stands at the center of decades of very intense polemics. The Roman Pontiff who guided the Church in the terrible years of the Second World War, and afterwards the Cold War, is the victim of a “black legend” which is difficult to dislodge, even though documents and witnesses have amply established its incoherence. One of the unfortunate “secondary” consequences, so to speak, of this black legend – which falsely depicts Pope Pacelli as indulgent with respect to Nazism, and insensitive to the fate of the victims of persecution – is that it’s caused the extraordinary magisterium of this Pope, which was the precursor to the Second Vatican Council, to be completely forgotten. As has happened with the other two popes of the same name – Blessed Pius IX, who is spoken of solely in relation to issues connected to the politics of the Italian Risorgimento; and Pius X, often remembered solely for his strenuous battle against Modernism – also for Pacelli, there’s a risk of reducing his entire pontificate to the question of his presumed “silences.”