Pope Francis condemns social, economic inequality as 'sickness'

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If this is such a big deal how come he only donated 250k to our brothers in Beirut, when it was the Christian portion of the city most affected, when even the LDS church donated 2 million. Over 1 billion Catholics, 2,000 years of receiving donations and all we can donate is 250k? Then when people are killing children and openly embracing Marxism in America we get talk about economic inequality being the real sickness?

Dude I am convinced that the Catholic Church is Christ’s Church. I had my entire family convert. I dropped out of my school to attend a Catholic college instead. But I’m really struggling to be happy with the state of things now that I’m here. I dont understand how we can embrace Neo-Marxism while the CCP is putting people in camps and re-writing the Gospels. I dont understand how we can tolerate America wholesale accepting that its okay to give children hormones and for people to mutilate their bodies while we focus on racism following the lowest black unemployment in the history of the country while whites are shot, per police encounter, at a higher rate than black folks even. I dont understand how we can scramble scores of babies, CHILDREN, on a daily basis and give any sort of a you know what about Trump’s taxes.

I’m so disappointed, man. This is the church, history and scripture tells me so. But this isn’t what I expected.
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It sounds like you are having issue shoehorning the Faith into rightist American politics.
 
Oh because the folks who defend life and are supposed to live in poverty think that the lowest unemployment ever still left enough people poor that its more important than 37 bus loads of children a day being murdered? Or forming a strong border in a way that has drastically curbed human trafficking of minors is bad but transitioning children to different genders is bad? No, my beliefs mesh just fine with Catholicism, friend. I legitimately cannot fathom how it is possible for some folks to reason so poorly as to end up Catholic and Democrat in 2020.
 
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Baho said:
Oh because the folks who defend life and are supposed to live in poverty think that the lowest unemployment ever still left enough people poor that its more important than 37 bus loads of children a day being murdered? Or forming a strong border in a way that has drastically curbed human trafficking of minors is bad but transitioning children to different genders is bad? No, my beliefs mesh just fine with Catholicism, friend. I legitimately cannot fathom how it is possible for some folks to reason so poorly as to end up Catholic and Democrat in 2020.
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So it sounds like following Trump and the GOP is very important to you? If you are having no problems aligning your faith with your politics as you point out why are you taken aback by the words of the Holy Father regarding the problem with social and economic inequality?
 
Because envy is a sin, poverty is not something to despair over, and people are actively looting Gucci stores and calling it ‘reparations’? Because people are being put in concentration camps in China and babies are being murdered and a pandemic is ravaging the world and THE sickness we need to address is economic ‘inequality’? Tell me how someone in the richest country in the history of the world is more important than the life of a single child. Tell me why caring about children and wanting prevent their murder, trafficking, or sexual abuse is incompatible with Catholicism.
 
Baho said:
Because envy is a sin, poverty is not something to despair over, and people are actively looting Gucci stores and calling it ‘reparations’? Because people are being put in concentration camps in China and babies are being murdered and a pandemic is ravaging the world and THE sickness we need to address is economic ‘inequality’? Tell me how someone in the richest country in the history of the world is more important than the life of a single child. Tell me why caring about children and wanting prevent their murder, trafficking, or sexual abuse is incompatible with Catholicism.
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I believe the Holy Father is concerned about the evils of abortion. He has stated such. He is also concerned in how we treat the poor snd address economic inequality, how we deal with the sin of racism and xenophobia, and how we welcome the stranger.

The Church is a worldwide organization of a human and divine character. It’s tenet can not be confined to a narrow American political scope.
 
I know that he is, and I am acting more hostile right now than I should. I just feel passionately about the defense of children and a lot of comments I’ve seen here over the last few days really kind of got me to a boiling point. Time for me to take a break from CAF for a couple of days, I reckon.
 
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I know that he is, and I am acting more hostile right now than I should. I just feel passionately about the defense of children and a lot of comments I’ve seen here over the last few days really kind of got me to a boiling point. Time for me to take a break from CAF for a couple of days, I reckon.
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CAF gets me upset too sometimes. God Bless.
 
Baho said:
I’m so disappointed, man. This is the church, history and scripture tells me so. But this isn’t what I expected.
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If Catholicism doesn’t force you to occasionally revisit some deeply held political belief, you’re doing it wrong.

There are exactly two groups of people that Scripture commands us to love and care for more often than it commands us to love God. Do you know who these people are?

Immigrants and the poor. No other group comes even remotely close (yes, even the unborn).

Don’t get me wrong, the unborn matter a great deal. But the Church spends a lot of its time invested in addressing the needs of those God commands us to care for most frequently.

A world in which 10% of the population lives on less than $2 per day and 50% live on less than $6 per day, while Jeff Bezos is worth $200 BILLION, is not a just world.

The Pope is correct to call this inequity out, and we should spend significant time to trying to fix it.
 
Not sure I agree with you there. The USCCB seems to be fairly concerned about helping the poor not be poor. It is never, ever, a Catholic response to shrug our shoulders and be ok with people in need existing. We are commanded to help them - and solving the underlying problem seems like a good and noble goal.

Again, a world in which Jeff Bezos is worth $200 Billion and 50% of the population lives on less than $6 per day is a world with a fundamentally broken economic system. We are commanded to at least try and fix that (even if it means upsetting the American billionaire class, and middle class Americans who idolize them).

The USCCB:

“The first line of attack against poverty must be to build and sustain a healthy economy that provides employment opportunities at just wages for all adults who are able to work. Poverty is intimately linked to the issue of employment… Expanded employment especially in the private sector would promote human dignity, increase social solidarity, and promote self-reliance of the poor.”

 
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