Pope Francis: Divorced Catholics who remarry are not 'excommunicated.'

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Pope Francis today renewed hope for Catholics who remarry by stressing that they are ‘not by any means excommunicated’ from the Church.

The Pope said that while the Church knows well that such a situation—when a Catholic who is not a widow or widower remarries—contradicts the Christian Sacrament, there are no closed doors in the house of the father and that the Church is always looking with the ‘heart of a mother’ to seek out the good for people.

Report: sconews.co.uk/news/46376/church-doors-remain-open-to-those-who-remarry-pope-says/
 
Following a month-long hiatus, Pope Francis resumed his Wednesday general audience on August 5 and called for a compassionate welcome to those who have remarried outside the Church.In …

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I think this is somewhat “new” in that Pope Francis is saying that divorced and remarried
Catholics are welcome in the Church and are not excluded from God’s love, unlike the attitudes of many bishops, priests and lay people in our parishes who scorn and often verbally abuse people in that situation and try to place them “at a distance from the community”, to quote the Pope. I am aware of divorced and remarried Catholics who have been told by priests about the “pastoral option”, where they can go to Mass and receive communion at a different parish. In one case, when a priest at the new parish became aware of their situation, he did not tell the couple they could not receive.

Quite often it seems, what happens in the parish does not always comply with what the church hierarchy says should happen. I think Pope Francis is quite aware of that and is trying to bring the man-made rules of the Church in synch with the Gospel. Bless the man.
 
Together with the Synod, I earnestly call upon pastors and the whole community of the faithful to help the divorced, and with solicitous care to make sure that they do not consider themselves as separated from the Church, for as baptized persons they can, and indeed must, share in her life. They should be encouraged to listen to the word of God, to attend the Sacrifice of the Mass, to persevere in prayer, to contribute to works of charity and to community efforts in favor of justice, to bring up their children in the Christian faith, to cultivate the spirit and practice of penance and thus implore, day by day, God’s grace. Let the Church pray for them, encourage them and show herself a merciful mother, and thus sustain them in faith and hope.
The source? Pope St. John Paul II, in Familiaris consortio, n. 84, written following the 1980 ordinary synod of bishops. If there are bishops/priests/laity who need to be reminded of this, then I am glad that Pope Francis is doing so.

Dan
 
I think this is somewhat “new” in that Pope Francis is saying that divorced and remarried
Catholics are welcome in the Church and are not excluded from God’s love, **unlike the attitudes of many bishops, priests and lay people in our parishes who scorn and often verbally abuse people in that situation and try to place them “at a distance from the community”, **to quote the Pope. I am aware of divorced and remarried Catholics who have been told by priests about the “pastoral option”, where they can go to Mass and receive communion at a different parish. In one case, when a priest at the new parish became aware of their situation, he did not tell the couple they could not receive.

Quite often it seems, what happens in the parish does not always comply with what the church hierarchy says should happen. I think Pope Francis is quite aware of that and is trying to bring the man-made rules of the Church in synch with the Gospel. Bless the man.
I have never even heard of such a thing. Every parish I’ve ever been to has been welcoming to all people. They want them to get their marriage situation straightened out, but they welcome them.
 
“Not by any means excommunicated by the church” ?

My parents were excommunicated, and as their child, so was I. I was never received back, well through an Eastern branch, where mercy dwells, finally.
 
The pope has said nothing that contradicts in any way the teachings of the Church. Divorced and remarried Catholics are most welcome to come to church. However, they still cannot receive the sacraments anywhere as long as they are living outside the teachings of the church. If a priest did tell someone to go to another parish to receive any of the sacraments, then the priest is acting outside the teachings of the church and he is wrong. He’s basically telling them to go sin somewhere else.
 
…My parents were excommunicated, and as their child, so was I. I was never received back, well through an Eastern branch, where mercy dwells, finally.
Hello,

Says/said who? (I’m particularly interested in learning about your being excommunicated because of your parents).

Dan
 
“Not by any means excommunicated by the church” ?

My parents were excommunicated, and as their child, so was I. I was never received back, well through an Eastern branch, where mercy dwells, finally.
The sins of your parents would in no way prevent you from entering the Church. Furthermore, your parents were not excommunicated. They may have been barred from the sacraments as a result of their decision to reject Church teaching on marriage, but that does not necessarily equate to excommunication.
 
Hello,

Says/said who? (I’m particularly interested in learning about your being excommunicated because of your parents).

Dan
Yeah, I would also like to learn more about that perceived “excommunication into the fourth generation”! 🤷🤷🤷
 
“Not by any means excommunicated by the church” ?

My parents were excommunicated, and as their child, so was I.
Not possible.

One is not held responsible for the actions of their parents, according to the principles of ecumenism, among other things.
 
I had an elderly Italian guy doing some tiling on my home a few months ago…he told me he had been excommunicated from the Catholic Church years ago because of a previous divorce and remarriage without an annulment…in fact looking online you can find that prior to 1977 divorced Catholics WERE excommunicated here in the US…

When was this changed? When was excommunicating a Catholic who had divorced stopped? By who, and why?

In 1977.

A bit of history for you…

In 1884 the Third Plenary Council of Baltimore received permission from the Holy See to impose an “automatic” excommunication on American Catholics who divorced and, without petitioning for and receiving a declaration of nullity (commonly called an annulment), remarried in a civil or other non-Catholic ceremony.

**This special penal law, applicable only in America, remained in effect until 1977 when the American bishops asked for and received Rome’s permission to drop the penalty of excommunication in these cases. Since then, American Catholics who divorce and remarry outside the Church are not excommunicated. **
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.in fact looking online you can find that prior to 1977 divorced Catholics WERE excommunicated here in the US…
I thought it was more like 1970 but this is true. A divorcee was excommunicated whether he remarried or not. Also if a single or widow married someone who was not free to marry, such as a divorcee.

If I can add a note here…some say there is not much difference between being excommunicated and not being able to receive the sacraments. However, the difference is that excommunications are much harder to lift. If not excommunicated, one can usually go to confession before he’s able to receive (other) sacraments.
 
“Not by any means excommunicated by the church” ?

My parents were excommunicated, and as their child, so was I. I was never received back, well through an Eastern branch, where mercy dwells, finally.
Good gracious, when and where was this? By all means, this should be brought up with the current Latin rite bishop where you live.

My mother married a divorced man back in the 1950s. She was not excommunicated but she was not permitted to receive the sacraments.
All of us children (three) were baptized (I have my own certificate right in front of me), attended Catholic schools, received First Communication, Confession, and Confirmation, all before my father’s death when my mother made her reconciliation and once again received.

This was in a large city/archdiocese (Philadelphia) and again, in the early 1950s, and I was by no means the only child of a marriage which was not recognized by the Church yet neither we nor our parents were ‘excommunicated’ with the old bell, book, and candle, and forbidden to darken the doors or a church or to consort with any fellow Catholics whatsoever. . . Unfortunately it sounds as though there were some serious misunderstandings, perhaps in more than that particular priest’s case, in your situation, which could even now be rectified. . .

Excommunication until 1977 must have been rather selectively enforced, it seems, or the ‘excommunication’ must have been limited to the person not being free to receive the sacraments personally, while still being able to attend Mass, associate with other Catholics, etc.
 
My aunt was erroneously told in the late 1970s (by a priest) that she was excommunicated when she got divorced. She divorced because would hit her. Then, several of the busy body women ostracized her. She still took my cousins to CCD, but she didn’t feel welcomed.

Needless to say, that hurt her faith for many years and my cousins are not practicing Catholics today.

It also hurt my other Aunt when she divorced due to being abandoned and locked out of her house by her husband. She thought she was excommunicated and never tried to get an annulment because she thought she would have to be in contact with her sleaze ball husband during the process.

Both of my aunts married young and perhaps both could have received annulments if they didn’t feel shunned.

Though it’s also a shame that they never spoke the new pastor that came to the parish after their divorcees. He was a great priest.

My point - this did happen in the past, and I’m sure it still is some places. We need to do a good job of welcoming divorced Catholics, helping them get annulments (if possible), and making them feel welcome if they cannot get an annulment. Finally, help them to understand that not receiving the Eucharist when in an ill-regular marriage is to safe guard their souls.

God bless
 
I thought it was more like 1970 but this is true. A divorcee was excommunicated whether he remarried or not. Also if a single or widow married someone who was not free to marry, such as a divorcee.

If I can add a note here…some say there is not much difference between being excommunicated and not being able to receive the sacraments. However, the difference is that excommunications are much harder to lift. If not excommunicated, one can usually go to confession before he’s able to receive (other) sacraments.
But this was just the US in the 1970s (correct?)
 
http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/i...Credit_Daniel_Iba_n_ez_CNA_5_20_15.jpgVatican City, Aug 5, 2015 / 09:28 am (CNA/EWTN News).- Echoing his predecessors on the need to care for divorced and remarried persons, Pope Francis said Christians should help these persons integrate into the community rather than treating them as though they are excommunicated.
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“The Church well knows that such a situation contradicts the Christian Sacrament,” the Pope said in [his Aug. 5 General Audience](http://w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/it/audiences/2015/documents/papa-francesco_20150805_udienza-generale.html) at St. Peter's Square. Nonetheless, he added, the Church should always approach such situations with a “mother's heart; a heart which, animated by the Holy Spirit, seeks always the good and the salvation of the person.”

“It is important that they experience the Church as a mother attentive to all, always disposed to listen in encounters.”

The community is to welcome persons who have divorced and entered into new unions, the Pope said,  that “they may live and develop their adherence to Christ and the Church with prayer, listening to God's word, frequenting the liturgy, the Christian education of their children, charity, service to the poor, and a commitment to justice and peace.”

Pope Francis made these remarks in his first General Audience since his summer break, picking up where he left off in his ongoing series of catecheses about the family.

Since last autumn, the Roman Pontiff has been centering his Wednesday catecheses on the theme of family as part of the lead-up to the World Day of Families in September, and the Synod on the Family in October.

In stressing the complexity of the pastoral care of those who have entered unions without having received an annulment of their marriage, Pope Francis turned to his immediate predecessors, St. John Paul II and Benedict XVI, both of whom had addressed this problem.

Pope Francis went on to stress how in recent decades, under the guidance of his predecessors, the Church has come to an increased awareness of the need for “fraternal and attentive welcome, in love and in truth” of those who have entered a new union following the failure of their marriage.

For instance, the Pope cited Benedict XVI who, in [a question and answer period during the 2012 World Meeting of Families](http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2012/june/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20120602_festa-testimonianze.html), acknowledged there were no “simple solutions.”

He also cited St. John Paul II's 1981 apostolic exhortation on the family,* [Familiaris consortio](http://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/apost_exhortations/documents/hf_jp-ii_exh_19811122_familiaris-consortio.html)*, calling on pastors to “exercise careful discernment of situations” (84) in caring for couples who have attempted to remarry without having obtained an annulment – giving the example of the difference between someone who caused the separation, and who suffered it.

One of the areas of particular concern, the Pope said, pertains to the children affected by such complex family situations, for they are who suffer the most.

“If we then look at these unions with the eyes of the small children,” the Pope said, “we see the even more urgency for developing, within our communities, a real welcoming of persons who live in these situations.”

“How can we entrust these parents to do everything to educate their children in the Christian life, to give them the example of convicted and practiced faith, if we keep them at a distance from the life of the community, as if they were excommunicated?”

“These persons are by no means excommunicated,” the Roman Pontiff stressed, “and they should absolutely not be treated as such: They are always part of the Church.”

Excommunication is a medicinal penalty, and an excommunicated person cannot have a ministerial participation in worship; celebrate or receive the sacraments; or exercise ecclesiastical offices, ministries, or functions.

The divorced who have remarried cannot, however, be admitted to Eucharistic Communion because “their state and condition of life objectively contradict that union of love between Christ and the Church which is signified and effected by the Eucharist,” St. John Paul II taught in *Familiaris consortio*.

Pope Francis said that in caring for people who are divorced and remarried, Christians should take their example from the Good Shepherd, an image which, he said, summarizes Christ's mission to “give his life for his sheep.”

“This attitude is also a model for the Church, who welcomes her sons as a mother who givers her life for them.”

The Pope stressed that “all Christians are called to imitate the Good Shepherd.”

“Christian families can collaborate with him in taking care of wounded families, accompanying in the community's life of faith. Each must his part to assume the attitude of the Good Shepherd, who knows every one of his sheep, and excludes no one from his infinite love!”
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Full article…
 
There are about four different things going on, in regard to the former excommunications for divorce/remarriage.

The US bishops implemented automatic excommunications during the mid-19th century:
–one for Catholics who attempted marriage before a non-Catholic minister
–one for Catholics who were married, divorced, and then attempted another marriage (this would tend to take place before a civil official, not a “minister” of some other ecclesial community).

Bishops in provinces and then for the entire nation enacted these penalties (see the Third Council of Baltimore (1884) for the nationwide implementation).

The 1917 Code of Canon Law enacted a penalty similar to the one concerning Catholics attempting marriage before a non-Catholic minister (c. 2319). This canon was slightly modified by Pius XII in the 1950’s. The US penalty, then, was effectively subsumed into the universal law.

In 1970, Bl. Paul VI eliminated that portion of c. 2319 (in Matrimonia mixta).

In 1977, Bl. Paul VI, responding to the request of the US bishops, eliminated the penalty for divorced Catholics who attempted to marry again.

I have never seen *any *evidence that the US bishops have ever issued an automatic excommunication for only obtaining a civil divorce.

Dan
 
Quite often it seems, what happens in the parish does not always comply with what the church hierarchy says should happen. I think Pope Francis is quite aware of that and is trying to bring the man-made rules of the Church in synch with the Gospel.
When you make a distinction between the “man-made rules of the church” and the Gospel you essentially say that the church’s laws conflict with the Gospel message, and that she has not in fact fulfilled “her mission of authentically interpreting God’s law in the light of the Gospel.” (Veritatis Splendor #45)

The church has taught from the very beginning of her existence that communion cannot be received by anyone not in full unity with the church, which specifically excludes people aware of an unconfessed, grave sin. Since it was Christ himself (in the ,um, Gospels) who noted that those who divorced and remarried were committing adultery, what is the argument that we should now ignore this?

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