Pope Francis Entire UN Speech

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I like the “culture of waste” phrase. I think that really encapsulates all that Francis is speaking out against. We’re in a culture that is accustomed to throwing things away, whether it be material resources or people.
 
This is great to read and while I’m still reading this, I found this:
During the speech, delivered in Spanish, the Pope underlined the devastating consequences of war, especially in countries such as Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, Libya, South Sudan, and the Great Lakes region.
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Obviously, this was not meant. Maybe it was different in Spanish.
 
Thank you Mary Gail and Joe; I certainly did not know of the African Great Lakes.
 
Inevitably, some will not be happy with this speech. Myself, I’ve been saying for years that we live in a in a disposable culture, and to have Pope Francis say it on this stage so emphatically edifies me in ways I cannot express.

Simply a tour de force. The message of this Papacy is clear; we must fight the disposable culture. And the framework of which is based on Natural Law.

"The common home of all men and women must continue to rise on the foundations of a right understanding of universal fraternity and respect for the sacredness of every human life, of every man and every woman, the poor, the elderly, children, the infirm, the unborn, the unemployed, the abandoned, those considered disposable because they are only considered as part of a statistic. This common home of all men and women must also be built on the understanding of a certain sacredness of created nature".

And it leads to something I hope others understand; I think one of the reasons Pope Francis isn’t talking about abortion as much is because he is carrying on the work of Pope Paul VI, and extrapolating the work Paul VI did even further. He has referenced the Pope Paul VI several times, including this address. He’s not just refining, but continuing the message.

Years from now we will see Pope Francis the same way everyone should see Paul VI; a prophet.
 
Okay, so I am a little confused. Is the following a quote from Pope Paul VI, or are they Francis’s own words?
The common home of all men and women must continue to rise on the foundations of a right understanding of universal fraternity and respect for the sacredness of every human life, of every man and every woman, the poor, the elderly, children, the infirm, the unborn, the unemployed, the abandoned, those considered disposable because they are only considered as part of a statistic. This common house of all men and women must also be built on the understanding of a certain sacredness of created nature.
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Either way, while I’m sure it won’t be enough for many CAFers, I think the Pope did something great here. He framed opposition to abortion not as some arbitrary “thou shalt not” religious prohibition, but as part of a general ethic of the value of human life in general.

TBH, I really don’t understand why so many who call themselves “pro-life” actually distance themselves from this reasoning and really focus on being “anti-abortion” only; many don’t even seem to care much about euthanasia though most major “pro-life” groups do in their public platforms.
 
ToeInTheWater said:
Okay, so I am a little confused. Is the following a quote from Pope Paul VI, or are they Francis’s own words?

Either way, while I’m sure it won’t be enough for many CAFers, I think the Pope did something great here. He framed opposition to abortion not as some arbitrary “thou shalt not” religious prohibition, but as part of a general ethic of the value of human life in general.

TBH, I really don’t understand why so many who call themselves “pro-life” actually distance themselves from this reasoning and really focus on being “anti-abortion” only; many don’t even seem to care much about euthanasia though most major “pro-life” groups do in their public platforms.
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It sounds like Paul VI, no? But it isn’t; that is Pope Francis.
 
Without the recognition of certain incontestable natural ethical limits and without the immediate implementation of those pillars of integral human development, the ideal of “saving succeeding generations from the scourge of war” (Charter of the United Nations, Preamble), and “promoting social progress and better standards of life in larger freedom” (ibid.), risks becoming an unattainable illusion, or, even worse, idle chatter which serves as a cover for all kinds of abuse and corruption, or for carrying out an ideological colonization by the imposition of anomalous models and lifestyles which are alien to people’s identity and, in the end, irresponsible.
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en.radiovaticana.va/news/2015/09/25/pope_francis_addresses_the_un_general_assembly/1174588

Bold text by me.
 
ToeInTheWater said:
Okay, so I am a little confused. Is the following a quote from Pope Paul VI, or are they Francis’s own words?

Either way, while I’m sure it won’t be enough for many CAFers, I think the Pope did something great here. He framed opposition to abortion not as some arbitrary “thou shalt not” religious prohibition, but as part of a general ethic of the value of human life in general.

TBH, I really don’t understand why so many who call themselves “pro-life” actually distance themselves from this reasoning and really focus on being “anti-abortion” only; many don’t even seem to care much about euthanasia though most major “pro-life” groups do in their public platforms.
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It’s from this very address. 🙂

As I was listening, as soon as I heard him say the word “unborn”, I thought of CAF and the thread on the address to Congress yesterday.
 
Joe_5859 said:
Great quote. 👍 I missed that one the first time around.
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Hmm, would I be reaching if I think the comments about “the imposition of anomalous models and lifestyles which are alien to people’s identity” is a reference to not just same-sex marriage, transgenderism, but the discrimination against people who don’t agree with such lifestyles?

Obviously not ONLY SSM, but again, I like how this Pope really puts into context the reasoning for the “socially conservative” teachings of the Church as opposed to just “The Bible says it’s wrong” or “The Church says it’s wrong”.
 
ToeInTheWater said:
TBH, I really don’t understand why so many who call themselves “pro-life” actually distance themselves from this reasoning and really focus on being “anti-abortion” only; many don’t even seem to care much about euthanasia though most major “pro-life” groups do in their public platforms.
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Emphasis mine.

Why do people keep throwing this word into discussion? What pro-lifer is being exclusive?
 
ToeInTheWater said:
Hmm, would I be reaching if I think the comments about “the imposition of anomalous models and lifestyles which are alien to people’s identity” is a reference to not just same-sex marriage, transgenderism, but the discrimination against people who don’t agree with such lifestyles?

Obviously not ONLY SSM, but again, I like how this Pope really puts into context the reasoning for the “socially conservative” teachings of the Church as opposed to just “The Bible says it’s wrong” or “The Church says it’s wrong”.
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Me too. I think this flows from his whole view of the Church being a field hospital. He wants people to know that the Church’s teachings aren’t just arbitrary rules, but are all about the true flourishing of the human person.

I really do love this pope. I can honestly say he’s changed the way I look at the world. Not that Benedict didn’t also talk about these things, but I just didn’t hear it. Before Francis was elected, I was pretty comfortable. He’s challenged me to see where my blind spots are. Made me want to really live as a disciple of Christ.
 
The common home of all men and women must continue to rise on the foundations of a right understanding of universal fraternity and respect for the sacredness of every human life, of every man and every woman, the poor, the elderly, children, the infirm, the unborn, the unemployed, the abandoned, those considered disposable because they are only considered as part of a statistic. This common house of all men and women must also be built on the understanding of a certain sacredness of created nature.
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IMHO, the best quote so far of all of the Pope’s addresses on this trip.
 
Our world demands of all government leaders a will which is effective, practical and constant, concrete steps and immediate measures for preserving and improving the natural environment and thus putting an end as quickly as possible to the phenomenon of social and economic exclusion, with its baneful consequences: human trafficking, the marketing of human organs and tissues, the sexual exploitation of boys and girls, slave labour, including prostitution, the drug and weapons trade, terrorism and international organized crime.
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Planned Parenthood is on notice along with the politicians who support them.

I just don’t quite understand how preserving the natural environment translates into ending these other social evils.
 
ToeInTheWater said:
Hmm, would I be reaching if I think the comments about “the imposition of anomalous models and lifestyles which are alien to people’s identity” is a reference to not just same-sex marriage, transgenderism, but the discrimination against people who don’t agree with such lifestyles?

Obviously not ONLY SSM, but again, I like how this Pope really puts into context the reasoning for the “socially conservative” teachings of the Church as opposed to just “The Bible says it’s wrong” or “The Church says it’s wrong”.
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You know, I think you are onto something there. More than just rattling off the things the Church is against, Pope Francis really is laying out the reasons that support the moral teachings.

I really believe Francis is trying to lay some foundations in the wider culture upon which the Catholic moral teaching can be drawn out from. Too often, we can skip a few steps when speaking with others who simply do not share our faith, which tends not to advance the conversation. With the basics in place, perhaps we can make some more headway.
 
Joe_5859 said:
I like the “culture of waste” phrase. I think that really encapsulates all that Francis is speaking out against. We’re in a culture that is accustomed to throwing things away, whether it be material resources or people.
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Yes, I agree with this too, but Im sure 99.9% of people ALSO agree with this, so…??

In other words, its one of those things you would be hard pressed to find anyone who does not agree. lol
 
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