Pope Francis 'furious' at senior Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone's plan to 'retire in four-storey penthouse'

  • Thread starter Thread starter WilT
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
W

WilT

Guest
Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone in the Vatican was found to want to retire and live in a plush 4 story penthouse within the Vatican walls. I hope the Holy Father would put an end to clergy extravagant living. Let’s keep them all in our prayers for the love of simplicity and poverty.😃
 
Let’s keep them all in our prayers for the love of simplicity and poverty.😃
And don’t forget to also pray that our retired Bishops and Cardinals enjoy a comfortable and peaceful retirement, safe from back-biting and gossip. And thank God every day for sending them to us.
 
Your comments remind me so much of my father, that’s just what he would say,
He would say that Jesus had a stone for a pillow,and these people live in luxury ,
 
He wants to live in a nicer place than the Pope? Doesn’t he find that a little strange?
 
He wants to live in a nicer place than the Pope? Doesn’t he find that a little strange?
Why would you find that strange? The current Pope is effectively living in a hotel - by his own choice. Virtually all the priests and bishops in the western world are living in nicer places.
 
I don’t understand why people care so much about this kind of thing. I guess all else being equal, I suppose it would be preferable for a member of the hierarchy to live simply. But, for me, this is just so far down the list of priorities are far as what makes a good, or bad, Priest that I just can’t really care much 🤷
 
I don’t understand why people care so much about this kind of thing. I guess all else being equal, I suppose it would be preferable for a member of the hierarchy to live simply. But, for me, this is just so far down the list of priorities are far as what makes a good, or bad, Priest that I just can’t really care much 🤷
McCall1981, you may be right as far as importance, but if those in authority don’t know or want to live beside their sheep that the shepherd, then they will never represent them well. They should smell as their sheep stated our Holy Father one time. Pope Francis practices what he preaches. So should all the rest follow his example.

😃
 
McCall1981, you may be right as far as importance, but if those in authority don’t know or want to live beside their sheep that the shepherd, then they will never represent them well. They should smell as their sheep stated our Holy Father one time. Pope Francis practices what he preaches. So should all the rest follow his example.

😃
Plenty of “sheep” living in luxury too.

Pope Francis has some grounds for criticizing how the clergy live; the rest of us, unless we are willing to give up everything and live in community or as a hermit dependent on the kindness of others, not so much.
 
A four story building inside the Vatican? How many of these can there possibly be within such a tiny piece of land?
 
He wants to live in a nicer place than the Pope? Doesn’t he find that a little strange?
I think most of us live in nicer places than the Pope. 🤷 I know for certain we live in nicer places than Cardinal Bergoglio. Careful before you throw stones my friend.
 
I think most of us live in nicer places than the Pope. 🤷 I know for certain we live in nicer places than Cardinal Bergoglio. Careful before you throw stones my friend.
Except you and those of us who live in nicer places than the Pope haven’t made vows of poverty, like the Cardinal has.
 
Why would you find that strange? The current Pope is effectively living in a hotel - by his own choice. Virtually all the priests and bishops in the western world are living in nicer places.
Key phrase underlined. The Cardinal, by his own choice, has taken a vow of poverty for the sake of the Kingdom. To back down on that seems odd and not exactly promoting the image of the Church that Pope Francis is aiming to portray.
And don’t forget to also pray that our retired Bishops and Cardinals enjoy a comfortable and peaceful retirement
Might I add, you don’t need a four story penthouse to enjoy a comfortable and peaceful retirement.
 
I don’t understand why people care so much about this kind of thing. I guess all else being equal, I suppose it would be preferable for a member of the hierarchy to live simply. But, for me, this is just so far down the list of priorities are far as what makes a good, or bad, Priest that I just can’t really care much 🤷
This. Also, I think it would be refreshing to see an article about the Pope being ‘furious’ about the majority of Catholics using artificial contraception, or about the indoctrination of gay culture being spoon-fed by the media across the globe. The Church is in a spiritual crisis around the world and there is plenty to be furious about. One Cardinal living in luxury seems inconsequential with regards to the state of the Church as a whole.
 
Actually the article quotes Bertone as saying that the Pope is fine with it and has expressed that he does not understand the criticism by others. So, are we saying the Cardinal is a liar?

Bertone, served the Church in an utmost dignified and Holy way. I think we can safely say that for us to criticize clergy in this way is not only non our place, but is probably against forum rules.
Bertone added the Pope had called him and expressed ”his solidarity and disappointment at the attacks directed at me over the apartment“.
Just more media agenda if you ask me.🤷
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top