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Reading the snarls comments on the first page of this thread in response to posters who simply asked what it was about leads me to think some people must not have gotten the message.Love for mankind.
Reading the snarls comments on the first page of this thread in response to posters who simply asked what it was about leads me to think some people must not have gotten the message.Love for mankind.
So you just kind of pick and choose when to pay attention to the Pope and when not to.I am from Australia and live most of the year travelling around Asia. I am not interested in hearing what the pontiff is saying on either global warming or illegal migrants/refugees as I think it is a naive eagerness to join the politically correct bandwagon and as a Catholic such wrong political posturing is dangerous and frankly embarrassing.
I will listen to him on other matters though.
I thought the same thing. Some one asked a simple question, and was rebuffed is responses about the “Love of Humanity.” Ironic.Reading the snarls comments on the first page of this thread in response to posters who simply asked what it was about leads me to think some people must not have gotten the message.
But that’s just the problem, the lack of definitions, since IVF has come about through technological advances, and so has abortion, some people would define those things gravely contrary to the moral law as ‘good’ and ‘helpful’.His comments were ostensibly aimed at using technological development to help each other, rather than just help ourselves, so I guess it was “T”.
Well if Kermit the Frog thought it is hard to be green, then all the harder for us to be good.Reading the snarls comments on the first page of this thread in response to posters who simply asked what it was about leads me to think some people must not have gotten the message.
So you didn’t listen to the Pope’s talk and from not listening to it somehow concluded that the Pope came out in favor of IVF? That is some interesting line of reasoning, my friend.But that’s just the problem, the lack of definitions, since IVF has come about through technological advances, and so has abortion, some people would define those things gravely contrary to the moral law as ‘good’ and ‘helpful’.
I haven’t watched it, but from what I have read, I didn’t feel too comfortable because of the vagueness in it all and how I think it could be easily taken many different ways. But I must admit there were some good parts of it. I’ll just keep praying for our Holy Father.
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Josh
This we can agree on! The Golden Rule is Gold for a reason We must Love God above all and Love each other as our selves and there will be no need to worry whether or not Climate Science is pure conjecture or that all these scientist are on the take because everyoone owuld be looking out for eveyones best interest!The talk doesn’t mention anything about global warming, the environment, or creation protection. But is does focus on the parable of the Good Samaritan and that everyone is our neighbor and we need to value others.
If we were to do that, then, of course, we would be mitigating global warming and protecting the air, water, food, and climate so as to protect others from harm. That’s a given among the many other things we should and could be doing to value, help, and protect others (like working against abortion).
As a poster put it, it is a homily for all, not just for Catholics or not just for Christians, but it is at the very heart of Christianity. Without that stance, Christianity is quite meaningless and dead.
That is not what he said!!So you didn’t listen to the Pope’s talk and from not listening to it somehow concluded that the Pope came out in favor of IVF? That is some interesting line of reasoning, my friend.
Hmm interesting. I wonder what you pick in choose from the actual teachings of the Church.So you just kind of pick and choose when to pay attention to the Pope and when not to.
I see a problem with this.
Tell me have you read everyhting the previous two popes wrote about? Do you agree with all of it?So you didn’t listen to the Pope’s talk and from not listening to it somehow concluded that the Pope came out in favor of IVF? That is some interesting line of reasoning, my friend.
I believe I have read all of the formal writings of the last few Popes, and lots of the informal stuff, and no I do not agree with all of it. But its really kind of silly to refuse to listen to something, characterize it negatively and reject it out of hand. Catholics aren’t obliged to read everything, but the Pope deserves more respect than to dismiss him in that manner.Tell me have you read everyhting the previous two popes wrote about? Do you agree with all of it?
I agree with you on that! The pope deserves our utmost respect and I LOVE this pope very much.I believe I have read all of the formal writings of the last few Popes, and lots of the informal stuff, and no I do not agree with all of it. But its really kind of silly to refuse to listen to something, characterize it negatively and reject it out of hand. Catholics aren’t obliged to read everything, but the Pope deserves more respect than to dismiss him in that manner.
Reading the snarls comments on the first page of this thread in response to posters who simply asked what it was about leads me to think some people must not have gotten the message.
Perhaps some people would be less on edge if there wasn’t a few people on this forum who come off critical (and occasionally hostile) because the Pope shares ideals that don’t fit in with their political orientation.I thought the same thing. Some one asked a simple question, and was rebuffed is responses about the “Love of Humanity.” Ironic.
yes, I would say you are extra sensitive.Perhaps some people would be less on edge if there wasn’t a few people on this forum who come off critical (and occasionally hostile) because the Pope shares ideals that don’t fit in with their political orientation.
I don’t mean to start any debate here, but there’s been more than one poster that has come off dismissive of the words of our Holy Father. Perhaps I’m extra sensitive to since Pope Francis’ words actually brought be make to the Church and reminded me of why I loved my religion in the first place…
But when folks say things like “is he talking about global warming?”, it comes off dismissive.
+1yes, I would say you are extra sensitive.
Benedict XVI was Pope when I was received into the Catholic church and he is very special to me.
Amen.As a Catholic I’m obligated to believe everything the CHURCH treaches. I do! WIth all my heart and mind.
I agree with Pope Francis that we need to look after the earth but more importantly it;s inhabitants and more importantly the spiritual health of the worlds inhabitants.
I do not agree with the Popes personal opinion on Scientific realities of the world around us. Nor am I obligated too!
Yes, I agree with everything JPII and Benedict wrote and said.Hmm interesting. I wonder what you pick in choose from the actual teachings of the Church.
As a Catholic I’m obligated to believe everything the CHURCH treaches. I do! WIth all my heart and mind.
I agree with Pope Francis that we need to look after the earth but more importantly it;s inhabitants and more importantly the spiritual health of the worlds inhabitants.
I do not agree with the Popes personal opinion on Scientific realities of the world around us. Nor am I obligated too!
Tell me do you agree with everything Pope John Paul II & Pope Emeritus wrote about?
Good, Then we are the same!Yes, I agree with everything JPII and Benedict wrote and said.
I follow the Church and the words of the Popes as I consider my will and mind subject to their insights. I learn from them- I don’d pick and choose what to listen to and what not to.