Pope Francis, in major change, alters rules for women who've had abortions

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If you live in the USA or any other country where the bishops allow the priest to absolve the sin, then yes. I am not sure WHEN in the USA that bishops allow priest to absolve the sin though.
It’s at the discretion of each individual Bishop. It’s possible that some US Bishops don’t delegate this authority, but I don’t know of any.

In my brother’s diocese (of Savannah) he and his fellow priests have authority to absolve all sins (not just abortion) otherwise reserved to the Bishop.
 
I don’t believe that the media- at least most of the media- is anti-Catholic or anti-christian inherently.

This seems like persecutory thinking to me.
There is also the word “discretion,” which apparently means that if the priest does not believe the penitent is sincere, he does not have to absolve them of the sin of abortion (or any other sin, I believe). Does what I am saying conform to what the Church teaches?
Not quite, as I understand it. A good confession requires that the penitent must be contrite, confess sins fully and be willing to do penance and make amends. As I’ve understood this, if contrition is absent, the confession is invalid and absolution of the sin does not occur. Most often, it would seem the priest would not know whether or not the penitent is contrite. But if contrition is not in the person’s heart, then the sin is not forgiven by the Sacrament of Reconcilliation. The priest most often would not know this either.

The sin of abortion differs in that it results in automatic excommunion. It would seem this could be more complex to resolve, and perhaps it once was and required a discussion with the priest. If so, administering of the Sacrament of Reconcilliation for this grave sin, resulting in excommunication, could have been (and might still be) at the discretion of the priest. The way the articles explains it, this sin can now be confessed like any other.

Nevertheless, if contrition is absent, the confession is invalid and the sin is not forgiven. This is not at the priest’s discretion.
 
I have said this before, Pope Francis knows or senses something the rest of the world does not. He is 100% focused on God’s Mercy even through this step of reaching out to women who have had abortions, and during the same time that he has declared a year of Mercy.

The words from our Lord to Saint Faustina return to me over-and-over whenever I learn of the Pope proclaiming another area of expanded Mercy.

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You will prepare the world for My final coming. (Diary 429)

Speak to the world about My mercy … It is a sign for the end times. After it will come the Day of Justice. While there is still time, let them have recourse to the fountain of My mercy. (Diary 848)

Tell souls about this great mercy of Mine, because the awful day, the day of My justice, is near. (Diary 965).

I am prolonging the time of mercy for the sake of sinners. But woe to them if they do not recognize this time of My visitation. (Diary 1160)

Before the Day of Justice, I am sending the Day of Mercy. (Diary 1588)

He who refuses to pass through the door of My mercy must pass through the door of My justice. (Diary 1146).​
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What do you mean a blank check or a rubber stamp? From the Pope’s letter:

"I have decided, notwithstanding anything to the contrary, to concede to all priests for the Jubilee Year the discretion to absolve of the sin of abortion those who have procured it and who, with contrite heart, seek forgiveness for it."

w2.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/letters/2015/documents/papa-francesco_20150901_lettera-indulgenza-giubileo-misericordia.html

That isn’t a blank check. It is directed towards those who have a contrite heart and seek forgivness.
It can interpreted as that by some as a rubber stamp or blank check of forgiveness. This is just very concerning. I thought abortions could only be forgiven by bishops.
 
It can interpreted as that by some as a rubber stamp or blank check of forgiveness. This is just very concerning. I thought abortions could only be forgiven by bishops.
If you are talking about in the USA, most bishops have given priests the authority to absolve the sin of abortion. So it has been this way for a while in most of the USA. I still don’t understand how someone could see this as concerning or a blank check for forgiveness. It the Pope’s letter, it clearly states one must be contrite.
 
It can interpreted as that by some as a rubber stamp or blank check of forgiveness. This is just very concerning. I thought abortions could only be forgiven by bishops.
The authority to lift the excommunication resides with the bishop. But it is an authority that the bishop may delegate, and most (if not all) of the bishops in the US have delegated that authority to the priests.

Canonically, this is actually a distinct issue from absolving the sin. A priest may do that, but not until the excommunication is lifted.

And, the excommunication, while automatic, only applies in certain cases
  1. She was under 16 when she got it; or
  2. She didn’t know there was a canonical penalty attached to it; or
  3. She acted under physical force; or
  4. She acted under grave (serious) fear; or
  5. She lacked the use of reason; or
  6. She acted in the “heat of passion,” which refers to an intense emotional state in general;
For example, if woman came in and confessed that she had an abortion when she was 15, there was no excommunication, and the priest would need no additional authority to absolve.

Likewise if a woman who confess an abortion was unaware that there WAS an excommunication penalty attached to abortion ( which would cover a LOT of women) then there is no excommunication, and the priest would have needed no additional authority from the bishop to absolve the sin.
 
Excommunication and the Sacrament of Reconcilliation are of course two separate things. For a valid confession, there must be the contrition of the penitent. This is not a determination made by the priest.
 
If you are talking about in the USA, most bishops have given priests the authority to absolve the sin of abortion. So it has been this way for a while in most of the USA. I still don’t understand how someone could see this as concerning or a blank check for forgiveness. It the Pope’s letter, it clearly states one must be contrite.
I can be seen by someone as a blank check or rubber stamp if they aren’t versed in Catholicism. There are a lot of Catholics out there who are not very well versed in their faith.
 
This needs to be discussed between the priest and penitent as each one is different. Hardly anyone today doesn’t know it is forbidden by the Catholic Church to get an abortion or to assist someone else to do so. God Bless, Memaw
One would like to think that is so but, unfortunately, it isn’t. A woman told me of her three abortions. Also informed me she had been raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. I asked her how she did not know abortion was a sin. She stated that the law allowed it so she thought is was okay.

Here’s an example of lacking the ability to discern between what is legal and what is moral. Two entirely different things.

She became a born again Christian and has asked forgiveness for her sins. No, she is no longer Catholic.
 
NOOO. Only a bishop can offer absolution for the sin of abortion. In a lot of countries (including the USA), bishops have said that priests could absolve the sin. So, the sin of abortion was and is ALWAYS forgivable (if the person is truly sorry), just prior to this, a person might have to go to a bishop to be absolved.
How exactly would this have worked and what is the time period? A woman in the US would have gone to confession, talked about her abortion and the priest would have stopped her and said he needed to contact the bishop?

I’m assuming that for many women it is very difficult to enter the confession wanting to confess a abortion or multiple abortions. I wonder how many would have fled knowing they now would be compelled to repeat all to a bishop. Or, if repeating wasn’t necessary, to wait to hear if they had been absolved.
 
What about men who have paid for abortions, encouraged a woman to get an abortion? Some men are deeply sorry for this sin and are well aware they helped to kill their own child.

What about married men who committed adultery which resulted in a pregnancy and not knowing what to do, paid for an abortion but are and were, even at the time, grieved that they sinned and caused the loss of a child’s life? I’m assuming they were automatically excommunicated. Can they too be forgiven by the local priest or would this be a case where the bishop would need to become involved?
 
One would like to think that is so but, unfortunately, it isn’t. A woman told me of her three abortions. Also informed me she had been raised Catholic and went to Catholic school. I asked her how she did not know abortion was a sin. She stated that the law allowed it so she thought is was okay.

Here’s an example of lacking the ability to discern between what is legal and what is moral. Two entirely different things.

She became a born again Christian and has asked forgiveness for her sins. No, she is no longer Catholic.
This is an isolated case and, I am almost sure, not typical of most Catholics. The woman you speak of even converted from Catholicism. My Catholic friends, many of whom are not practicing Catholics, still know that abortion is a grave sin according to the Church. I know this as well, so I assume it is common knowledge, particularly among Catholics.
 
So we all heard the headlines, Pope Francis says that all priests can now forgive abortion. It was my understanding that any sin could be forgiven by a priest anyways. It was only the ‘excommunication’ that is tied to those most grievous sins that requires a bishop?

A program on EWTN radio last evening made it sound as if all the headlines were inaccurately reporting, which wouldn’t be the first time. But some clarification on this topic would be much appreciated.

Thanks

foxnews.com/world/2015/09/01/during-jubilee-priests-can-absolve-faithful-abortion-sin-pope-says/

cnn.com/2015/09/01/europe/pope-francis-abortion/
 
I was just reading a post on facebook where the person said it was crazy that the Pope thinks contrition is necessary for forgiveness, and that this shows how out of touch the Pope is.

It’s just shocking what sort of nonsense some people will spout.
 
Pope Francis’ Year of Mercy Indulgence Raises Canonical Questions
First, what is the canonical weight of this letter? It is not a law (Canon 8ff). It is not a general decree (Canon 29). It is not a general executory decree (Canon 31). It is not a canonical “instruction” (Canon 34). It is not indicated to be a motu proprio (of his own initiative).
It clearly is just a letter written to the president of the Pontifical Council for the Promotion of the New Evangelization, yet one that appears to be making some pretty bold grants regarding indulgences, faculty, etc. for the Year of Mercy. For a Holy Year, these type of things are usually in the form of a papal bull, such as the Pope’s document declaring the Year of Mercy, or at least a decree or motu proprio so that there is no confusion as to its official canonical weight. The form or lack thereof and the ambiguities in the letter seem to be creating some canonical doubts of law, which I am afraid may possibly nullify or suspend some of its application (Canon 14).
Second, in the letter, the Pope seems to be granting the ability to all priests to forgive the sin of abortion. While in the Eastern Churches the forgiveness of the sin of abortion is reserved to the bishop (Code of Canons of the Eastern Churches, 728), in the Latin Rite, all priests who have the faculty to absolve sins in confession are already seemingly able to do this.
So herein lies the problem: The Pope’s letter does not mention anything of granting the ability to priests to lift the penalty of excommunication that may result from the sin of abortion but rather only seems to grant the ability to priests to forgive the sin of abortion.
For Latin Rite priests who have the faculty to hear confessions validly, this is not granting them anything new and they are still not able to lift the penalty of excommunication if they are not able to do so by grant of their own bishop.
An additional ambiguity arises in that the letter seems to extend the grant to all priests. It does not specify that this is only to priests who have the faculty to hear confessions validly. In other words, does this ability to forgive the sin of abortion extend also to excommunicated priests, priests under interdict, priests dismissed from the clerical state, priests in schismatic or irregular groups or situations, priests who their bishops have limited or taken away their ability to hear confessions?
And if so, are these priests only able to forgive this sin and not the other sins confessed?
 
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