Pope Francis to wash feet of prisoners in pre-Easter Mass

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Ellen_Mary said:
When I read this article in Catholic Herald (I have just found this publication) I instantly thought what a good Pope we have in Pope Francis. I then read how he’d done this before and saw the picture of him washing and kissing the feet of young person in a drug shelter. I felt love of Our Lord shining through.

I said to my husband ‘I new Pope is a great man’ he asked why and I began to read the article. However he ranted that it was wrong, and The Pope shouldn’t do that that the prisoners everywhere should be allowed to rot (he has very strict views on prisioners and other unsavoury people) he should wash the feet of disabled or elderly.

I try to pray for my husband to help him return to the Church, but I fear I’m not making headway. Other than for me to keep praying, does anyone have any ideas to help reignite his very long since gone Catholic faith? I have returned to the Church and I’m so happy I did. However my husband although a cradle Catholic like myself, doesn’t feel the same as I do. 🤷

Thank you and God bless.

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Pray to St. Monica. Her prayers converted Augustine and his father.

As to the pope and the washing of the feet. . . everyone is assuming that he will wash female feet. You can’t create an entire thread on an assumption.

Everyone is assuming that he or she has a right to comment on what the pope does that is not a sin. There is no sin involved here, if he did wash female feet, because as Boniface said, the pope is above every rule and law in the Church. Therefore, he cannot break what does not bind him. The only law that binds him is revealed moral law. This is not a matter of revealed moral law. God is not trying to bind the pope, people are. But people don’t have that right.

Before proceeding with this dialogue, everyone should step back, examine his or her conscience and ask one simple question: “Do I have the authority and the right to try to bind the successor of Peter? If not, then it is me who is sinning.”

I have already rested my case. I’ve told the brothers that the first peep about this there grave consequences. People want superiors, bishops and popes who exercise their authority, well we’re seeing it here. Pope Francis is exercising his authority to do things his way. All of a sudden, people don’t like that exercise of authority.

Then what exercise of authority do people want? Do we want a pope who exercises authority according to our perception of what is tradition and what is appropriate for a pope? If that’s the case, then he would not be exercising his authority. He would be submitting to the many voices around him. True authority is the free choice to do as he believes is best by the person who as the right to make that choice.

A parent has the right to make choices that he believes are for the good of his children. He must also make choices that are good for his soul. He cannot put his children above his soul. When the parent exercises the right to make those choices, he is exercising his authority, even when the children don’t like it.

The same is true of a pope. His first duty is to his soul. His second duty is to his ministry. He must choose to exercise his ministry in a way that is good for the Church without compromising his conscience. When he makes this choice, freely, he is exercising authority.

Authority is not about what you and I believe the pope should or should not do. It’s about what he believes he should or should not do and his right to make that choice and our duty to accept it even if we don’t like it, just as our children must accept our choices when they don’t like them.

We need to stop assuming what the man is going to do. We need to back down and stop legislating to a man who is not bound by those laws created by men.
 
JReducation said:
This is not how Church law works. No pope is ever bound by Church laws. Therefore, not pope can break Church laws. The law is deposited by Christ in the heart of the pope. The pope can choose to impose the law on the entire Church, only one of the Churches or only some people. But he is never beneath the law. Therefore, he is never bound by the law.

If there were anyone scandalized it would be because the individual does not understand the relationship between the pope and the law. The pope does not have to change the law in order to do something different. He can bypass it.

A simple example.

On February 27, 2013, Pope Benedict XVI enacted a law that upon the election of a new pope the cardinals WOULD NOT make their pledge of obedience in the Sistine Chapel and they WOULD NOT make it at the inauguration mass. Nor would there be any pledge of obedience at the inauguration mass so as not to interrupt the flow of the mass. The pledge of obedience is to be made in a public ceremony, for the world to see, that takes place outside of mass.

On March 13, 2013, Pope Francis did not change the law, but chose to bypass it. He chose to use the system setup by Pope John Paul II. However, the law that Pope Benedict enacted is in force and unless the Holy Father chooses to change it, it will remain in the books for the future, should the next pope want to make use of it.

Did Pope Francis break the law? No. Why not? Because no pope, no law, no council can bind a reigning pope. This was established by Pope Boniface VIII.
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So when Pope Clement XIV banned the Society of Jesus in 1773 he was not breaking any
Church law? Did Christ place this in the heart of Pope Clement XIV? If so, did Christ then humble the Society of Jesus, and has Christ now honored the Society of Jesus for such a time as this?

that the Society of Jesus is no longer able to produce the abundant fruit and the great good for which it was instituted — and considering that, as long as this order subsists, it is impossible for the Church to enjoy free and solid peace", resolves to “suppress and abolish” the Society (from the Papal Brief: "Dominus ac Redemptor")

newadvent.org/cathen/04034a.htm

an interesting historical account of the same:

ieg-ego.eu/en/threads/european-media/european-media-events/christine-vogel-suppression-of-the-society-of-jesus-1758-1773

"The LORD searches every heart and understands every motive behind the thoughts"
 
mercytruth said:
So when Pope Clement XIV banned the Society of Jesus in 1773 he was not breaking anyChurch law?

First, he did not suppress the Society as a whole. He suppressed provinces. Some provinces remained untouched. Though he did suppress the majority. That much is true. He never followed through with what he wrote. The Franciscans recanted their accusations against the Jesuits before they became extinct. Clement was a Conventual Franciscan Friar. He acted according to the wishes of the Franciscans. He suppressed and then he stopped.

He did not break any law, for two reasons.

First:

Every religious order subsists under the pope.

Second:

The Society of Jesus is an order in solemn vows.

Third:

The pope has the power and freedom to suppress any order or to approve any order without the consent of the rest of the Church.

What he did was unjust to the Jesuits. It was the fault of the Franciscans; but it was not illegal.
Did Christ place this in the heart of Pope Clement XIV? If so, did Christ then humble the Society of Jesus, and has Christ now honored the Society of Jesus for such a time as this?
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Oh, the horror - a girl will be among the 12 inmates whose feet will be washed by the Pope! So the venomous ones are spitting venom again: they blame the Pope for "setting a very negative example and “the Vatican’s acquiescence” (perhaps they wanted the Pope to be thrown out for disobedience towards “the Vatican”?). One even claims that “Pope Francis has managed to do more damage in 2 weeks than any Pope in the Church’s history”. How sad and ugly. :mad:
rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/03/for-record-girl-among-12-inmates-whose.html
 
Dear oh dear, there really is some bile being spewed out towards Pope Francis on that site. It’s absolutely shameful.

It seems that certain people want a Pope, but only if that Pope does things the way they want him to it.
 
vames said:
Oh, the horror - a girl will be among the 12 inmates whose feet will be washed by the Pope! So the venomous ones are spitting venom again: they blame the Pope for "setting a very negative example and “the Vatican’s acquiescence” (perhaps they wanted the Pope to be thrown out for disobedience towards “the Vatican”?). One even claims that “Pope Francis has managed to do more damage in 2 weeks than any Pope in the Church’s history”. How sad and ugly. :mad:
rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2013/03/for-record-girl-among-12-inmates-whose.html
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My God.😦
I feel like showering now.
Those people are defacto Protestants. Do they realize they are creating the exact opposite of their stated intent?
 
Washing the feet of the forbidden?
What could possibly be next? Maybe subjection to, ridicule, taunts, fingerpointing, maybe a little spitting and slapping? Maybe death like a common criminal? At the hands of the self righteous?
The Pope is in very good company. Lord have mercy on us.
 
I have said before that reading sites like that is a near occasion of sin for me. I see that I was not wrong. 😦 Their anger and ugliness incite anger and ugliness in me.

I recommend reading Pope Francis’ Chrism Mass homily as an antidote. Or anything written by our beloved pope emeritus Benedict.
 
"The washing of the feet of chosen men which, according to tradition, is performed on this day, represents the service and charity of Christ, who came ‘not to be served, but to serve’ (Matt XX: 28)…this tradition should be maintained, and its proper significance explained.”

-CDWDS document, “Paschales Solemnitatis”, 1988
 
mike0219116 said:
"The washing of the feet of chosen men which, according to tradition, is performed on this day, represents the service and charity of Christ, who came ‘not to be served, but to serve’ (Matt XX: 28)…this tradition should be maintained, and its proper significance explained.”

-CDWDS document, “Paschales Solemnitatis”, 1988
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Yes the traditions are a great thing. Here’s a nice commentary on this:
firstthings.com/onthesquare/2013/03/francis-washes-feet
But, lest one become lost in minutiae, we are talking about the pope, here. The 1983 Code of Canon Law states that “the bishop of the Roman Church, in whom continues the office given by the Lord uniquely to Peter, the first of the Apostles, and to be transmitted to his successors, is the head of the college of bishops, the Vicar of Christ, and the pastor of the universal Church on earth. By virtue of his office he possesses supreme, full, immediate, and universal ordinary power in the Church, which he is always able to exercise freely” (1983 CIC c. 331). Of course, there are things that no pope could ever do. For instance, popes can neither ordain women to the priesthood nor consecrate invalid matter at the altar. But we’re talking about an optional rite—the so-called mandatum—and not one of those things.
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At this writing, the Vatican’s Sala Stampa has not clarified whether the pope will wash the feet of non-Christians, such as Muslims. We do know that when he was the Archbishop of Buenos Aires, Cardinal Jorge Mario Bergoglio used to celebrate the Mass of the Lord’s Supper at prisons, hospitals, and hospices for the poor and migrants. He received neither censure nor sanction in the past. The Vatican’s Press Office describes this evening’s ritual as a continuation of that established custom.
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What seems to be on the heart of Pope Francis—the Vicar of Christ and the pastor of the universal Church on earth—is a desire to move out from under a stifling, dull, and technical rubricism toward the Paschal light of Christ’s redemptive charitable love. Papa Francesco is seeking to bring Christ to the women and men of diverse religious confessions of Casal del Marmo. He is able to do this because he is the bishop of Rome.
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As the Church enters into the sacred Triduum, let us all dial down the divisive rhetoric and enter into the communion of the Church at the side of the Vicar of Christ.
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What seems to be on the heart of Pope Francis—the Vicar of Christ and the pastor of the universal Church on earth—is a desire to move out from under a stifling, dull, and technical rubricism toward the Paschal light of Christ’s redemptive charitable love. Papa Francesco is seeking to bring Christ to the women and men of diverse religious confessions of Casal del Marmo.
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👍👍

Christ came to serve all men, not just those who are members of the Church.
 
mgsk said:
He came to call them to the Truth - membership in His Mystical Body, which is the Roman Catholic Church.
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…and He calls them by showing His love for them.
Not by displaying a card to an exclusive club.
 
clem456 said:
Washing the feet of the forbidden?
What could possibly be next? Maybe subjection to, ridicule, taunts, fingerpointing, maybe a little spitting and slapping? Maybe death like a common criminal? At the hands of the self righteous?
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Sounds like Someone we all know…
😉
 
JustaServant said:
…and He calls them by showing His love for them.
Not by displaying a card to an exclusive club.
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Yes. By calling them to conversion. Not by including them in liturgical practices which, by their nature, ought to be reserved for Catholics.
 
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