Pope Francis vs America's Gay Lobby

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Deacon Jim Russell analyzes Pope Francis’ famous in-flight interview wherein he commented ‘who am I to judge’ with respect to a gay person who is seeking Christ. He contrasted such a person with a ‘gay lobby’ which is the greater problem. Some excerpts:
Individuals who affirm gay sex, gay identity, and gay marriage, and who build alliances around their affirmation of the homosexual inclination are, assuredly, the exact kind of “gay lobby” decried as “the greater problem” by Pope Francis himself.
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Catholics in the pew are by and large allied with the gay lobby in the United States, if statistics regarding the average Catholic’s support of same-sex marriage are any indicator. While the huge numbers associated with this relatively passive alliance with the gay lobby are disturbing, a great deal more damage is being done by Church leaders whose pastoral energy and ecclesial authority are being placed actively at the service of the gay lobby at the grass-roots level.
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Believe me, as one who has done a lot of digging, you don’t have the time or the energy to even scratch the surface. I do know of one person on the planet who is doing the investigating that Catholic dioceses, parishes, and schools should be doing but aren’t. If you really want to see the dark, writhing underbelly of the gay lobby at work in the Catholic Church in North America, pay a visit to Joseph Sciambra’s website, where you will find years and years of documentation of the gay lobby’s dire work, often institutionally supported and encouraged. All the while, complaints from concerned and faithful Catholics are almost always ignored.
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Pope Francis vs America’s Gay Lobby
 
I think that that quote has been taken out of context too many times by people who should know better.
 
You have to be careful when you buy jewelry nowadays. I was admiring a “rainbow” colored bracelet at Helzberg’s, and then I thought, if someone were to wear that, everybody would wonder if that person is gay.

It seems it is everywhere. Several years ago I had a bird named Rainbow because she was so colorful. An entirely different perspective turned rainbows into images for gays.

Just observing.
 
Arizona_Fat_Gir said:
You have to be careful when you buy jewelry nowadays. I was admiring a “rainbow” colored bracelet at Helzberg’s, and then I thought, if someone were to wear that, everybody would wonder if that person is gay.

It seems it is everywhere. Several years ago I had a bird named Rainbow because she was so colorful. An entirely different perspective turned rainbows into images for gays.

Just observing.
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Allies wear the rainbow too. You don’t have to be gay to do it
 
JimG said:
Deacon Jim Russell analyzes Pope Francis’ famous in-flight interview wherein he commented ‘who am I to judge’ with respect to a gay person who is seeking Christ. He contrasted such a person with a ‘gay lobby’ which is the greater problem. Some excerpts:


Pope Francis vs America’s Gay Lobby
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That’s why the Catholic Church and its affiliate institutions will receive no money from me.
 
SolicitorPirate said:
Allies wear the rainbow too. You don’t have to be gay to do it
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Yes, I am aware of the empty virtue-signaling and how many of these “allies” would sell out the GLBTQ community to sharia law should that ever become :cool::cool: and it’s definately trending in that direction.

After all, “it’s whatever is convenient at the time”…isn’t it?
 
SuperLuigi said:
Yes, I am aware of the empty virtue-signaling and how many of these “allies” would sell out the GLBTQ community to sharia law should that ever become :cool::cool: and it’s definately trending in that direction.

After all, “it’s whatever is convenient at the time”…isn’t it?
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What the hell are you even talking about?

There is no encroaching sharia law in the West, or even any meaningful organised movement to introduce the system. Even logistically, how the hell would a country with a robust and institutionalised civil or common law system even go about replacing it with sharia?
 
SuperLuigi said:
Yes, I am aware of the empty virtue-signaling and how many of these “allies” would sell out the GLBTQ community to sharia law should that ever become :cool::cool: and it’s definately trending in that direction.

After all, “it’s whatever is convenient at the time”…isn’t it?
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If gay people weren’t marginalized and discriminated against for the bulk of human history, there would be no need for allies, rainbow flags, or gay pride marches.
 
J_Peterson said:
If gay people weren’t marginalized and discriminated against for the bulk of human history, there would be no need for allies, rainbow flags, or gay pride marches.
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And if they weren’t burned alive, executed, tortured, thrown into prisons and later loony bins. That is some Nazi level of persecution for sure.
 
Otar_Mendes said:
And if they weren’t burned alive, executed, tortured, thrown into prisons and later loony bins. That is some Nazi level of persecution for sure.
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Interrestingly most of the 20th Century anti gay extremism actually came from atheistic scientific progressivism.

History is full of knee jerk reversals, and the last century has seen homosexuality reversing from being evil and unnatural insanity to unquestionably good and natural, all without anything resembling decent evidential justification either way 🤷
 
Mystic_Banana said:
all without anything resembling decent evidential justification either way 🤷
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Now that is hardly true.At least when it comes to “removing” it from this category. Besides, it didn’t deserve to be put into " being evil and unnatural insanity" category at all and was put there for obvious ideological reasons and lack of our understanding of science, nature and human sexuality. . Harmful ,anti-human, anti-natural dogmas ruled societies for so long and influenced in horrible ways almost all aspects of our lives, preventing us from the quest for the True Knowledge. Thankfully, we got passed that. At least in the West.
most of the 20th Century anti gay extremism actually came from atheistic scientific progressivism.
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  1. it was hardly scientific at all. (Nazi Germany and Stalin’s USSR), And before that it was more like pseudo-science. Mostly coz we didn’t have proper tools to understand and had a poisonous centuries old history in regard to this phenomenon weighing on our shoulders
Just one century that was predated by centuries(!) of a vile persecution and ideological zombification that undeniable left a scar on most people of the 20 century back then. In other words, the ground was already heavily contaminated . What would you expect to grow from it , a rose or a poisonous weed? It needed more time to get cleansed before giving birth to a somewhat decent flower.
 
I would submit that “True Knowledge” has been replaced by lies and manipulation in the minds of too many. I lived through a lot of it and it’s documented. Gays were not the only ones being put into “looney bins.” There is a global gay lobby/lobbying groups. List upon request.

Ed
 
Arizona_Fat_Gir said:
You have to be careful when you buy jewelry nowadays. I was admiring a “rainbow” colored bracelet at Helzberg’s, and then I thought, if someone were to wear that, everybody would wonder if that person is gay.

It seems it is everywhere. Several years ago I had a bird named Rainbow because she was so colorful. An entirely different perspective turned rainbows into images for gays.

Just observing.
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Good post. Good observation. Sad too. I love rainbows but now I feel like I have to explicitly describe what kind of rainbow I love. The kind that God created to appear in the sky after it rains and the sun starts coming out from the clouds.

Have to be careful about so many things that I say now. Very sad.
 
SuperLuigi said:
That’s why the Catholic Church and its affiliate institutions will receive no money from me.
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And there goes one of the precepts of the Church.

Liberalism comes in many flavours; not all of them are LGBTQ-flavoured. :rolleyes:
 
SuperLuigi said:
That’s why the Catholic Church and its affiliate institutions will receive no money from me.
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You’re not even Catholic?

If you are, you are obliged to support the Church and to give to the poor:
*Can. 222 §1. The Christian faithful are obliged to assist with the needs of the Church so that the Church has what is necessary for divine worship, for the works of the apostolate and of charity, and for the decent support of ministers.
**§2. *They are also obliged to promote social justice and, mindful of the precept of the Lord, to assist the poor from their own resources.

If you’re not, what brings you to this site to debate politics, pray tell?
 
SuperLuigi said:
That’s why the Catholic Church and its affiliate institutions will receive no money from me.
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Hi SuperLuigi. We haven’t talked in so long that I don’t remember what we talked about … but anyhow I’m glad to hear you say that. How you doing?
 
Peter_J said:
Hi SuperLuigi. We haven’t talked in so long that I don’t remember what we talked about … but anyhow** I’m glad to hear you say that. **
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Note: I just mean that, speaking for myself as an individual Catholic, I don’t want your donations. (I realize other Catholics might lament the loss of them, and I respect their right to feel that way.)
 
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