Am I the only one hoping that the Holy Father makes himself invisible or disappears if cornered?
And why we are at it, let’s not wear our winter coats out when it’s 10 below zero. God will take care, right? Or maybe God gave us coats for a reason…
We are not taking about us, and if the Pope Francis saw a person out in 10 below weather with no coat I have no doubt he would give the one off his own back. Obviously Pope Francis doesn’t think as you do. If Jesus took all the such precaution He would not have died on the cross for us would he?
When you show me the article that says Pope Francis is taking no security precautions whatsoever, I’ll concede your point.
Of course he isn’t. BTW I am not trying to be right or change you view, it is simply my opinion.
I understand! That’s what these forums are for. Lively debate - with charity of course!
But how willing are we to die… To ourselves, each day, for God? Thats the harder part.“We” are not taking unnecessary risks. The Pope has every right over the say on his safety, not you. I truly admire what he is doing. He is showing the world that we should be willing to die for our faith anytime and anywhere, just as Christ did. This is not a political move, it is truly a spiritual one. It :blush:is what the Church needs right now, IMO!
It’s a good question. Although I may have disagreed with shelby sun’s assertions (or how I interpreted those assertions) that the Pope was, in a way, throwing all of his trust in God, I think it’s a wonderful gesture if someone does do that. I think shelby sun was spot on in hoping/thinking that the Pope was truly a role model for reliance on Christ. I’m just wondering if relying on Christ requires us to “throw caution to the wind.”
I believe that the vast majority of hermits, monks and cloistered nuns would place their trust in God.
Just because previous Popes had bullet proof glass to protect themselves doesn’t permit you to question their love for Jesus or the Church.“We” are not taking unnecessary risks. The Pope has every right over the say on his safety, not you. I truly admire what he is doing. He is showing the world that we should be willing to die for our faith anytime and anywhere, just as Christ did. This is not a political move, it is truly a spiritual one. It :blush:is what the Church needs right now, IMO!
Do you believe a Pope doesn’t trust in God if he has armed security or rides in a bullet proof car? What do you think about the Swiss Guard?I believe that the vast majority of hermits, monks and cloistered nuns would place their trust in God.
LOVE!
Bullets were not available at the time of Jesus. People have every right to defend themselves against assassination, so I personally do not see any problem with a Pope riding in a bullet proof car if he wanted to do that.
So are you saying this Pope is not a responsible person? Do you think you know better then he does how he sees fit to serve God.
Excuse me I didn’t question the other Popes’ faith, please do not put words in my mouth like so many other do. I said I found it disturbing, that does mean the Pope himself ask for the bullet proof car, but rather I assume that the Vatican security insisted on it and Pope Francis does do what he doesn’t see is right for him, just because it was done before…
Good point, though the Pope did cut their bonuses last year.
True, but the Apostles fled to avoid the same fate. Someone was needed to spread the Word.
I believe even the Pope spoke about this recently, even if indirectly. It was about clericalization of the laity. Being a martyr is great and we are all called to that, in one way or another. Sometimes living a regular life is harder than physically dying for the faith, but it still requires dying (to one’s self) for the faith nonetheless.